Deadly Duties

[Edward Teach]

I posted the following to another thread and in my arrogance decided it deserved a thread of it's own.

Arrogance ought to be one of the seven deadly sins. It ought to be punishable by death. Death on the fucking spot. Just shoot the mutherfucker right on the spot. Ought to be a citizen’s duty. A deadly duty. One of the seven deadly duties.

Hell, abetting arrogance ought to be a crime too. Approbation of Arrogance ought to be a deadly duty.


What else ought to be a deadly duty?

 

[Lisa Denton]

I posted the following to another thread and in my arrogance decided it deserved a thread of it's own.

Arrogance ought to be one of the seven deadly sins. It ought to be punishable by death. Death on the fucking spot. Just shoot the mutherfucker right on the spot. Ought to be a citizen’s duty. A deadly duty. One of the seven deadly duties.

Hell, abetting arrogance ought to be a crime too. Approbation of Arrogance ought to be a deadly duty.


What else ought to be a deadly duty?

Maybe shootin pirates that post confounding and confoozled threads?

 

[Edward Teach]

Re: Re: Deadly Duties

Maybe shootin pirates that post confounding and confoozled threads?

Oh who asked you you little snot.

 

[rgraham666]

Me? Rapists.

I catch one going about his fun and one of us ain't walking away.

 

[LadyJeanne]

Seeing someone deliberately, openly, and remorselessly going after your man. Grrrr. Makes me want to scratch their eyes out.

Having said that, a touch of arrogance can be very sexy if properly applied.

 

[Edward Teach]

Having said that, a touch of arrogance can be very sexy if properly applied.

Like a bit of cinnamon flavored testosterone cream applied gently
with the tip of the tongue?


Eddie The Dreamer

 

[LadyJeanne]

Like a bit of cinnamon flavored testosterone cream applied gently
with the tip of the tongue?


Eddie The Dreamer

Er, um, yes, like that.

*all flustered now, thinking of cinnamon and tongues*

 

[Guest]

My two favourite blokes (one is my brother) are arrogant as can be (for good reason). I only mind arrogance when it's not earned or if it's put to ill use. And except for truly criminal acts I don't have violent responses. The level of anger expressed on so many threads here always disturbs me. Just saying.

Perdita

 

[carsonshepherd]

Definitely, anyone seen being mean to animals should be shot on sight.

<------ "GrrrrrrrR!"

(I agree with Perdita, except on that!)

 

[LadyJeanne]

My two favourite blokes (one is my brother) are arrogant as can be (for good reason). I only mind arrogance when it's not earned or if it's put to ill use. And except for truly criminal acts I don't have violent responses. The level of anger expressed on so many threads here always disturbs me. Just saying.

Perdita

It can be disturbing. I prefer to think of it as passion misapplied.

 

[Guest]

It can be disturbing. I prefer to think of it as passion misapplied.

Merci, Jeanne. humbly, P.

 

[LadyJeanne]

Merci, Jeanne. humbly, P.

Oh my. No, no, dearest - you humble me.

 

[logophile]

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

I just noticed this in Cheerful Deviant's sig line and it reminded me of this thread. There are certain things that inspired extreme anger or even hatred in me. I can't imagine ever being so lost in it that I would kill. The very thought of someone being run through over arrogance sends chills down my spine. RG, I don't know what I'd do if I ever came across a rapist in the middle of a rape. I don't spend much time thinking about that, I guess.

I don't mean to sound like I'm on a high horse. I just don't feel like it's even worth a chuckle. I guess I'm so startled that we could talk about taking someone's life so lightly. To me, that is supreme arrogance.

 

[Edward Teach]

My two favourite blokes (one is my brother) are arrogant as can be (for good reason). I only mind arrogance when it's not earned or if it's put to ill use. And except for truly criminal acts I don't have violent responses. The level of anger expressed on so many threads here always disturbs me. Just saying.

Perdita

Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: ar·ro·gance Pronunciation: 'ar-&-g&n(t)sFunction: noun: a feeling or an impression of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or presumptuous claims


WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University
arrogance
n : overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors [syn: haughtiness, hauteur, highhandedness, lordliness]


For the life of me I can’t find anything admirable in either of these definitions. Obviously, the qualities we find admirable are vastly different.

As to the anger, I really wasn't advocating killing people on the spot. It was mearly an attempt at humor which there is not nearly enough of in so many of the pretentious posts on these boards. Just saying.

Ed

 

[Guest]

My apologies, Ed., I believe I do not appreciate your humor is all. And I am not one to 'live by' the dictionary, I daresay you would find many variations and degrees on what one considers arrogance (same as with genius or admiration). However, I do not believe I said I admired arrogance or thought it a good quality.

Perdita

 

[BlackShanglan]

Aren't both of the main themes discussed thus far covered in the traditional 7 deadlies? Pride and wrath?

Shanglan

 

[BlackShanglan]

I only mind arrogance when it's not earned or if it's put to ill use.

Hmmmm. I tend to call this cockiness when it's relatively genial and harmless. I call it arrogance when it becomes unpleasant. I like a bit of cockiness (oh do stop sniggering, it's a perfectly innocent word) but think of arrogance as more dismissive or contemptuous, which I find unattractive.

That said ... what will we not forgive those whom we love?

Shanglan

 

[Guest]

Oh, Sh., I'd never snigger at cockiness. P.

p.s. I'm not about to get into defining terms.

 

[R. Richard]

"What else ought to be a deadly duty?"

IMNTHO I would assume that I might have a deadly duty if someone I am with is subjected to the following. An attempt to publically humiliate someone for no real reason, particularly if the attempt involves physical assault!

I am not speaking theoreticaly here. I had a big boy threaten me with homosexual rape and then try to carry out the threat in a public place. I did not kill him. According to witnesses (I black out during times of physical violence), I hit him hard enough to knock out several teeth. That last ended the problem temporarily. The police would not let me end the problem permanently.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Oh, Sh., I'd never snigger at cockiness. P.

Nor I. It's one of our finest natural resources

p.s. I'm not about to get into defining terms.

Damnit. You read that thread where Joe Wordsworth, Lucifer Carroll and I went down the rabbit hole of semantics and never surfaced, didn't you?

Sorry. I think I've been through "The Republic" once too often. "Yes, Socrates, I see you must be right ..."

Shanglan

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Arrogance is a self-punishing crime.

No need to work yourself into a passion over it.

Everyone who encounters the arrogant SOB is doing likewise.

 

[Edward Teach]

My apologies, Ed., I believe I do not appreciate your humor is all. And I am not one to 'live by' the dictionary, I daresay you would find many variations and degrees on what one considers arrogance (same as with genius or admiration). However, I do not believe I said I admired arrogance or thought it a good quality.

Perdita

I know that you do not appreciate my humor, Perdita. I, however, very much appreciate yours although I suspect yours may be unintentional. Regardless, the irony abounds.


Ed

 

[fifty5]

I posted the following to another thread and in my arrogance decided it deserved a thread of it's own.

Arrogance ought to be one of the seven deadly sins. It ought to be punishable by death. Death on the fucking spot. Just shoot the mutherfucker right on the spot. Ought to be a citizen’s duty. A deadly duty. One of the seven deadly duties.

Hell, abetting arrogance ought to be a crime too. Approbation of Arrogance ought to be a deadly duty.


What else ought to be a deadly duty?

OK, Ed, I'm with ya.

The "seven deadly sins" (even, to a lesser extent, Ghandi's version, which is far better than the classic christian ones) are IMHO little more than an example of another deadly sin: the love of power and domination: a mechanism to control others.

So what do we all think that the list should (and should not) include?

From you we have Arrogance: "Just shoot the mutherfucker right on the spot."

I've already added Love of Power (over others): Anyone prepared to stand for political office should be disqualified on those grounds!

And I'll also propose Hypocrisy: Hypocrits should be forced to behave as they say, while speaking as they do!

Anyone else propose any of the other four (or argue that 7 is the wrong number)?

Or debunk any of the classic ones? I'll start that off with Lust - which is merely the instinct for preservation of the species: a virtue!

Irony is a good way to avoid anaemic tracts!

Eff

 

[Lisa Denton]

Re: Re: Re: Deadly Duties

Oh who asked you you little snot.

Snot? Snot? Me?

Well you are a lil booger.

Nah, nah!!!!!!!!

 

[BlackShanglan]

I will argue on hypocrisy - or rather, I will argue on what is at times called hypocrisy. I don't think it altogether a terrible thing for someone to decry an action s/he has taken. Agreed, it would be nice if all people lived up to their own moral standards. That said, I think it still preferable that a person recognize moral standards even if human behavior doesn't always match them. To me, what would be more objectionable would be for a person who has "fallen" once to decide that the action must therefore be moral simply because s/he has now performed it. I would rather hear, for example, an adulterer continue to think that adultery is wrong, and struggle not to do it, than hear someone who had always believed it wrong suddenly decide it was fine because s/he had sampled the forbidden fruits and found them sweet.

Along those lines, I can't agree that the seven originals are simply a control mechanism to dominate others. Indeed, the new sins you propose actually are already covered under the old seven. We should not confuse the normal human desire to be free to pursue all of our whims with a moral stance. There is a place for restraint and socially validated mores. That they should be examined, I don't deny; that they should be discarded wholesale, I object to.

(I've also had a pint or two, so please forgive me if I am talking bollocks.)

Shanglan