DAMN it. God damn it. He murdered them.

[Guest]

CNN is reporting Texas authorities have just located the bodies of Lisa Underwood and her 7-year-old son, Jayden.

Here's a link to the initial story without the just-released update.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/st...0050221TXLM108&ewp=ewp_news_0205missing_woman

They have already arrested an old boyfriend for the murders.

I am sick. Positively sick.

My son is close in age to that child so this one has hit me extra hard, but it makes me think there's no hope for humans as a species. How can things like this continue to happen?

 

[cantdog]

Man. It makes you despair.

 

[minsue]

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/02/55/42/41/0002554241397_215X215.jpg

 

[msboy8]

CNN is reporting Texas authorities have just located the bodies of Lisa Underwood and her 7-year-old son, Jayden.

Here's a link to the initial story without the just-released update.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/st...0050221TXLM108&ewp=ewp_news_0205missing_woman

They have already arrested an old boyfriend for the murders.

I am sick. Positively sick.

My son is close in age to that child so this one has hit me extra hard, but it makes me think there's no hope for humans as a species. How can things like this continue to happen?

There is hope for the human race just because we will not accept things like this happening. There are more good people than bad people, we just have to stick together and not accept things like this!

 

[BlackSnake]

Chin up

There is always hope. People can begin to make good choices. Romanic love will not always concur common sense. People will stop keeping dangerous secrets. The truth will be brought into the light before death falls.

Chin up

 

[cantdog]

Snake, I'm touched. I haven't seen you unbend before. Compassion becomes you, though. And I already know you for a sensitive artist and a true gentleman. It's just that I had learned to expect reserve. I'm glad.

 

[BlackSnake]

Snake, I'm touched. I haven't seen you unbend before. Compassion becomes you, though. And I already know you for a sensitive artist and a true gentleman. It's just that I had learned to expect reserve. I'm glad.

Well, I can't be mad all the time, besides no body listens when I scream and yell...

 

[cantdog]

Point there! Yep. When I was teaching, I found the best way to get attention was to lower the volume at critical points.

 

[davidwatts]

There is hope for the human race just because we will not accept things like this happening. There are more good people than bad people, we just have to stick together and not accept things like this!

Nice thoughts, but things like this have, do and will continue to happen until the end of time. Doesn't mean we have to like it, but there's no way to stop it either. There's way too many loose cannons rolling around out there.

In this neck of the woods, some screwball ran into his wife in a gas station parking lot on Sunday afternoon. He went up to the car and pumped three shots into his estranged wife, killing her instantly. Oh, and did I mention their thirteen year old daughter was in the car at the time?

 

[Guest]

Thank you, everyone.

Thank you for your positive thoughts.

This situation is pretty harsh; I think many people have been affected by the news.

Snug your kids tonight.

 

[shereads]

Cruelty like this makes me glad I don't believe in creation theory. If we were made in the image of God, we're a bitter disappointment. I'd rather believe that we climbed up out of the primordial slime and composed symphonies; that we're an accident that didn't turn out as badly as we might have.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

That's awful. I think we're going to start hearing a lot more about pre-natal murders. I didn't know until the Laci Peterson murder how common it actually is. Such a tremendous waste.



Most of my family lives in Denton, TX. Frightening.

~lucky

 

[shereads]

That's awful. I think we're going to start hearing a lot more about pre-natal murders. I didn't know until the Laci Peterson murder how common it actually is. Such a tremendous waste.



Most of my family lives in Denton, TX. Frightening.

~lucky

The madonna-and-child aren't objects of worship so much as they are targets of rage. What a nightmarish moment it must be when a woman sees murder in the face of a man she trusted enough to take into her bed. Or in Laci Peterson's case, the man she planned a life with, furnished a nursery with, celebrated with when she was finally pregnant after years of trying. In the moment when these women know that a line has been crossed - that a bitter argument has just become something unthinkable - He's going to kill me - does she remember being in his arms when it meant feeling safe, feeling loved? Was it always an illusion? Was it ever real?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hang the son of a bitch. If they want, I will go there and personally tie the rope around his neck. By the way, I have said that same thing about some rats in California too, such as Richard Allen Davis.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

There is always hope. The actions of one person, however hideous, are not an inditment upon all. Just as the actions of one, no matter how generous are not a credit to all. There is a huge range of personality among humans and you hear far more often about those who are abberant towards the negative, than those who are abberant towards the positive.

Max Schmelling, the great German boxer, was held up as a poster child of Nazi ideals when he won the world championship. Yet he sheltered Jewish children in his own home on Krystalnacht, used his influence to get Jewish freinds exit visas and after the war, sent generous gifts to Joe Louis, the African American boxer who defeated him, when Louis faced finanacial difficulties in his later life. You don't hear much about Max, or about the millions who everyday short sheet themselves to help others. It isn't sensational enough for wide exposure, but it happens, day in and day out.

Three men from my father's chruch, all in their 60's, build ramps for recently immobiliezed people in the community, so they can still live in their homes. They use church donated funds, will take no pay, and use thier own tools and skills. It will never make headlines, but every weekend, almost without fail, they give someone the gift of staying in their homes, rather than having to move because they can no longer negotiate steps.

Good is out there. In my opinion, it is out there in far greater quantity than evil. Evil just gets the headlines.

*HUSG*

 

[msboy8]

Cruelty like this makes me glad I don't believe in creation theory. If we were made in the image of God, we're a bitter disappointment. I'd rather believe that we climbed up out of the primordial slime and composed symphonies; that we're an accident that didn't turn out as badly as we might have.

A little bit out of topic, but as the judge says, "You did open the door, counselor."

It must be sad to go through life alone. To believe that this life, with all it's tears, is all there is. I think that this incident helps to prove in the creation theory. A major part of the Christian faith is that we all have free choice. Otherwise we would all be like robots. Free choice is why those killers killed. They have free choice, we all do. Chosing not to be evil, lie, cheat or steal is a choice to be made. It's not like God controls everything we do, He gives us the gift of being able to choose.

One more thought before I get off my soapbox, just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean it's not true!

 

[Guest]

There is always hope. The actions of one person, however hideous, are not an inditment upon all. Just as the actions of one, no matter how generous are not a credit to all. There is a huge range of personality among humans and you hear far more often about those who are abberant towards the negative, than those who are abberant towards the positive.

Max Schmelling, the great German boxer, was held up as a poster child of Nazi ideals when he won the world championship. Yet he sheltered Jewish children in his own home on Krystalnacht, used his influence to get Jewish freinds exit visas and after the war, sent generous gifts to Joe Louis, the African American boxer who defeated him, when Louis faced finanacial difficulties in his later life. You don't hear much about Max, or about the millions who everyday short sheet themselves to help others. It isn't sensational enough for wide exposure, but it happens, day in and day out.

Three men from my father's chruch, all in their 60's, build ramps for recently immobiliezed people in the community, so they can still live in their homes. They use church donated funds, will take no pay, and use thier own tools and skills. It will never make headlines, but every weekend, almost without fail, they give someone the gift of staying in their homes, rather than having to move because they can no longer negotiate steps.

Good is out there. In my opinion, it is out there in far greater quantity than evil. Evil just gets the headlines.

*HUSG*

Sadly this is all too true. The media lives on conspiracy and controversy, even the smallest crimes seem to take the headlines from the good deeds done in huge numbers every day.

I don't mean that to lessen the horror of this crime though. I'm honestly glad it happened in Texas because I know he will die for his actions.

My only question is this: He has confessed to suffocating them both. So where did the "significant amount of blood" come from?

 

[cloudy]

One more thought before I get off my soapbox, just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean it's not true!

...and just because you believe it, it doesn't mean it's true, either.

geez, am I the only one getting tired of this?

 

[msboy8]

...and just because you believe it, it doesn't mean it's true, either.

geez, am I the only one getting tired of this?

Very true Cloudy, but would you rather believe in the worst or the best? I wish the best for everyone and hope their lives are full of joy. Thanks for writing back, Cloudy.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

CNN is reporting Texas authorities have just located the bodies of Lisa Underwood and her 7-year-old son, Jayden.

Here's a link to the initial story without the just-released update.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/st...0050221TXLM108&ewp=ewp_news_0205missing_woman

They have already arrested an old boyfriend for the murders.

I am sick. Positively sick.

My son is close in age to that child so this one has hit me extra hard, but it makes me think there's no hope for humans as a species. How can things like this continue to happen?

Hope for the human race will be getting that express lane to the execution chamber built for this guy's final day on Earth. I have a number of punishments that I'd love to see administered to this guy, but as it stands, he's going to have far too long to prepare for his own death, while the people whose lives he took had it thrust upon them in a few horrifying and painful moments. Justice cannot be properly administered to people like this under the ways that things are currently done. We can only give some minuscule facsimile of what should be done.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hope for the human race will be getting that express lane to the execution chamber built for this guy's final day on Earth. I have a number of punishments that I'd love to see administered to this guy, but as it stands, he's going to have far too long to prepare for his own death, while the people whose lives he took had it thrust upon them in a few horrifying and painful moments. Justice cannot be properly administered to people like this under the ways that things are currently done. We can only give some minuscule facsimile of what should be done.

Although it would be nice to know the guy would be burned at the stake or drawn and quartered or something like that, instead of dying peacefully by lethal injection, the line must be drawn somewhere. At least be happy that the state of Texas will off this scum.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

Although it would be nice to know the guy would be burned at the stake or drawn and quartered or something like that, instead of dying peacefully by letal injection, the line must be drawn somewhere. At least be happy that the state of Texas will off this scum.

That's a nice thought. I realize that we're supposed to be an advanced society, and while in the dire circumstance of deciding to execute a person for reasons of his/her crimes against society is supposed to be in a humane manner that was denied their victims, that makes it seem far too easy for the perpetrator.

This guy is going to get three squares a day, at least an hour of sunlight every day with something resembling exercise, he'll have books to read and may even have correspondence through letters and visitations from the outside world, and then his execution will be painless. And not for one second am I ashamed to say that all of that is far, far less than what he deserves. This doesn't make us better, it just tells the cold-blooded killers that though they brutally took the life or lives of others, ultimately their fate will be far more peaceful than the fate of their victims.

That's some lop-sided justice there.

 

[PAUL C]

painless death

yes. i suppose the death is painless. but is the mental anguish leading up to it?

then there is not killing them. cage them with the knowledge that there is no remision. that this day will be followed by another like this tomorrow. and the next day. and the next day.

what is better?

Hand them to the mob for retribution. then in five years time find out he didn't actually do it?

 

[Boxlicker101]

yes. i suppose the death is painless. but is the mental anguish leading up to it?

then there is not killing them. cage them with the knowledge that there is no remision. that this day will be followed by another like this tomorrow. and the next day. and the next day.

what is better?

Hand them to the mob for retribution. then in five years time find out he didn't actually do it?

I am a strong believer in capital punishment but, because of the possibility of an error, I also believe in absolute proof. There is such proof in this case, not just because of the killer's confession but because he led police to the bodies.

There have been cases where somebody has been convicted of a capital case because of newspaper publicity, perjured testimony, jury dislike for the accused or some other factor that should have nothing to do with their decision. Even if a convicted person is later exonerated, the damage has sometimes already been done.

In this case, though, there is no question. Hang the sun of a bitch.

 

[BlackShanglan]

It is not what torture and agonizing deaths do to the punished that should concern us, but what they do to us.