Dad sues to block son's circumcision

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Dad sues to block son's circumcision

June 13, 2006

BY STEVE PATTERSON Staff Reporter

















An Arlington Heights father will appear in court today to fight what he says is a plan to "mutilate" his 8-year-old son by circumcising him.

The boy's mother argues that without circumcision his recurring infections will only get worse.

The divorced couple is embroiled in a bitter fight that will see national experts flying in to testify before a Cook County judge. Their battle reflects a national debate on circumcision -- a procedure that has dropped in popularity in the United States over the last 25 years.


Most U.S. boys get surgery, but percentage dropping





The United States continues to lead the world in circumcisions; 1.12 million American baby boys were circumcised in 2003.

Much of that is attributed to cultural and social norms. But in the last 10 years, the percentage of boys circumcised has been dropping and is at its lowest since at least the 1970s. In 2003, 55.9 percent of male babies were circumcised -- down from a high of 64.7 percent in 1980, the National Center for Health Statistics says.

Part of that is attributed to economics, because some insurance policies don't pay for circumcisions -- especially since the American Academy of Pediatrics said the benefits of circumcision are not significant enough to label it as medically necessary.

Studies have cited a decreased risk of infections, injuries and penile cancer in those who are circumcised. But studies also have shown that circumcised babies have a risk for infection and injury by abrasion to the sensitive skin.

Steve Patterson


Is it medically necessary?



"My child is healthy and he doesn't want this to happen to him," the father said. "He's completely comfortable. I don't see any reason to do it."

But the boy's mother, who lives in Northbrook, said several doctors have told her that without circumcision earlier infections are likely to continue returning.

"Curing the infection isn't the issue -- it's stopping it from coming back. And the doctors have said the way to do that is by circumcision," said her attorney, Tracy Rizzo. "But now, [the father] has made this more of a political issue and nothing to do with medicine."

The couple -- he's a Polish native, she's Slovak -- married in 1996 and divorced in 2000.

The divorce decree gives the father input on major medical decisions. In February, a judge was asked to intervene and a restraining order was granted, preventing the mother from having the boy circumcised until after today's hearing.

Dr. Antonio Chaviano of Children's Memorial Hospital said fewer U.S. boys are being circumcised at birth, but it's even more rare to see the procedure done on an older boy.

Chaviano was not familiar with the 8-year-old's case, but acknowledged that sometimes circumcision is medically necessary for older boys. But he saw no reason for a boy to undergo the procedure if it wasn't needed. "You're opening a real Pandora's box," he said.

Those on both sides of the issue cite studies showing risks for infections and injuries. In a 1999 study, the American Academy of Pediatrics found no overwhelming evidence to support or oppose circumcision.

Attorneys for the father, Alan Toback and John D'Arco, are working with Georgia attorney David Llewellyn, whose expertise is circumcision cases. "Given [the boy's] age and the absolute lack of any medical necessity, any benefit to the child ... is far outweighed by the detriments," Toback said.

But Rizzo, attorney for the boy's mother, says medicine and proper cleaning instructions have not helped her son -- and the mother insists circumcision is needed.

Rizzo says the father repeatedly misses child-support payments and is opposed to his ex-wife's new marriage -- a claim the father denies.

"She just cares about her child," Rizzo said, "and wants to give him the best medical care necessary."

spatterson@suntimes.com




I'm against circumcision in general. It's not necessary. Seriously. Leave people's genitals alone. Nature made them that way.
 
As an 8yo able to have erections...that could be painful and there'd want to be a bloody good reason. As for infant circumcision...I'm fine with mine :)

I actually prefer to play with a cut cock...I think I have only seen a handful of uncut cocks ....They kinda look tasty too. Maybe I've had too much red wine to post a valid opinion *shuts down computer and trundles off to bedroom to try to arouse his hot boyfriend who is currently lost in his favourite book* :cathappy:
 
I might be wrong, lacking the appendage and experience that goes with it, but isn't hygiene half the battle? "Proper cleaning instructions" won't do the boy any good without proper cleaning practice.

Not having the whole story to look at, it sounds a little bit like an easy out for the mother. I know from first-hand experience that it's difficult as a woman to try to teach a little boy how to clean "down there", and all the more so to make sure he's doing it properly. However, embarrassment is no reason for making the boy get this surgery.

I think at the very least, the mother should be required to get a second (and third) doctor's opinion on the matter.
 
PredatorSmile: you know my side of the opinions, so don´t worry I won´t interfer in your holy crusade. Since the first time I opened my mouth on this issue... well that was the first time we met in PM´s and well how can I say it ? it wasn´t the sweetest words, back then we exchanged. But I know why you are against male circumsision, it is because of that case, where a doctor mutiliated a boy, and then he changed his gender, and then many years after, the boy became a "man" again. And then some months after he shot himself in the head with a shotgun. You know that I am circumsised by birth, so well my penis is not mutilated. Thank goodness for that.
 
PredatorSmile said:
"...he doesn't want this to happen to him,"

If this is indeed the case, then the owner of the penis should prevail.

As long as he can retract the foreskin and bathes regularly the infection thing should cease to be much of a problem. Even if it does not retract, there are other ways to treat this. There are steroidal and surgical ways to get it to retract.

I've been caught up in this debate before with some jackass that told me to ask any doctor in support of their position. Well, as a matter of fact I have talked to urologists as my son had an issue with his foreskin not retracting.

His pediatrician let it go for years because in spite of not being able to retract his foreskin. She said he was clean and had no issues with hygeine or infection (imagine that--another myth busted). As time went on, she referred him to a urologist and he prescribed a steroidal cream which worked great!

versatile1--proud owner of an uncut penis (who has been disappointed by the lack of flavor of circumsized cocks and really wants to try uncut--tastes pretty nice on my wife's lips :rolleyes: )
 
versatile1 said:
If this is indeed the case, then the owner of the penis should prevail.

As long as he can retract the foreskin and bathes regularly the infection thing should cease to be much of a problem. Even if it does not retract, there are other ways to treat this. There are steroidal and surgical ways to get it to retract.

I've been caught up in this debate before with some jackass that told me to ask any doctor in support of their position. Well, as a matter of fact I have talked to urologists as my son had an issue with his foreskin not retracting.

His pediatrician let it go for years because in spite of not being able to retract his foreskin. She said he was clean and had no issues with hygeine or infection (imagine that--another myth busted). As time went on, she referred him to a urologist and he prescribed a steroidal cream which worked great!

versatile1--proud owner of an uncut penis (who has been disappointed by the lack of flavor of circumsized cocks and really wants to try uncut--tastes pretty nice on my wife's lips :rolleyes: )


Same here, brother. Owner of an uncircumcised dick. Living with my SO, who prefers them too.
 
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