D.C. -- Statehood ? Or Abolition?

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Seems the Mayor of DC is making a fuss wanting to push the Congress Critters to vote on Statehood.

I'd push for the opposite. Abolish it and their politicians and blend it back into the Virginia and Maryland. I really see no use for that extra level of brain farts.

 

[sr71plt]

Don't you all get tired of just rolling around in the hate like this all of the time?

 

[srgreene]

Seems the Mayor of DC is making a fuss wanting to push the Congress Critters to vote on Statehood.

I'd push for the opposite. Abolish it and their politicians and blend it back into the Virginia and Maryland. I really see no use for that extra level of brain farts.

Although your tone could stand a little polish, I agree with you. Vaticanize some of the federal buildings and cede the land back to MD. Since I live in VA, I really don't want it to be part of us- MD is already a People's Republic, so politically, DC would be much more in sync with them.

Of course, that would not satisfy the leftists yammering for statehood- they want two more statist senators and representatives. DC is not a state, its interests are not aligned with those of the states- its interests lie in more federal power. Leftists want that, but they are not honest enough to tell you their ulterior motives- they want you to believe it is all about "justice". Justice is a low priority for them- power is their game.

 

[sr71plt]

There is no Virginia part, by the way. That went back to Virginia a long time ago. What was the Virginia portion of Washington, D.C., is now Arlington County, Virginia, and reverted back to Virginia in 1846.

But, why don't you try to exist without everything the federal government provides for you in exchange for your taxes (which I presume you don't try to dodge) for just two weeks (starting with jerking the roads out from underneath you, all of the work they do to ensure your food doesn't kill you, and keeping Russian tanks out of your backyard), and see how much you hate being an American then.

 

[Hypoxia]

Those who don't like politicians should try living under a military junta. Pols and their lawyers only screw you. Troops will shoot you if you quibble. Better hope your warlord wins.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Although your tone could stand a little polish, I agree with you. Vaticanize some of the federal buildings and cede the land back to MD. Since I live in VA, I really don't want it to be part of us- MD is already a People's Republic, so politically, DC would be much more in sync with them.

Of course, that would not satisfy the leftists yammering for statehood- they want two more statist senators and representatives. DC is not a state, its interests are not aligned with those of the states- its interests lie in more federal power. Leftists want that, but they are not honest enough to tell you their ulterior motives- they want you to believe it is all about "justice". Justice is a low priority for them- power is their game.

I suppose the Righties screaming for federal supremacy when it comes to drugs, sex and rock n' roll don't get counted....LOL

 

[Real_American11]

D.C. should return most of it's land to the original State of origin, D.C. should not be a place where people live.

When politicians, judges, etc. aren't "working" in D.C. they should commute to one of the surrounding States to live either as a permanent residence or rent an apartment/hotel/motel room.

D.C. should not even have a local government.

 

[merryohmd]

I totally agree that DC should be part of Maryland. I have even made that recommendation to my Congressman. It is the only possible solution as I believe DC cannot be a state without a constitutional amendment. That won't happen. We could not even get an amendment to constitutional state that women have equal rights. That should have been a no brainer.

 

[Real_American11]

I totally agree that DC should be part of Maryland.

D.C. should not be part of any State, it should not be a State, it should not be a city, it should not have a local government, it should not have anyone living there. Maybe the President and family can live in the White House... but I think it should be made into a public museum, no reason the President can't live in a regular home.

Why the hell does he need a palace/resort/golf course, etc. It's crazy, that land would be better as a national landmark, open to the public as a park, golf course, museum, etc.

It should be an independent district, managed and maintained as Federal land for the purposes of government.

Congress, Supreme Court, President, etc.

 

[Liar]

Seems the Mayor of DC is making a fuss wanting to push the Congress Critters to vote on Statehood.

I'd push for the opposite. Abolish it and their politicians and blend it back into the Virginia and Maryland. I really see no use for that extra level of brain farts.

It wouldn't "abolish their politicians". They'd still be what they are now, the city hall. Mayor and local administration. Except they'd have control over their own town, instead of the deafbeats in Congress. And they'd have a congressman or three who got to vote. So it wouldn't be the opposite, it would be way better for DC than now.

The differwnce between that and statehood would be senators. I can see why some are for or against that part, for partisan reasons.

 

[PoisonedChalice]

Those who don't like politicians should try living under a military junta. Pols and their lawyers only screw you. Troops will shoot you if you quibble. Better hope your warlord wins.

False dichotomy.

 

[Liar]

D.C. should not be part of any State, it should not be a State, it should not be a city, it should not have a local government, it should not have anyone living there. Maybe the President and family can live in the White House... but I think it should be made into a public museum, no reason the President can't live in a regular home.

Why the hell does he need a palace/resort/golf course, etc. It's crazy, that land would be better as a national landmark, open to the public as a park, golf course, museum, etc.

It should be an independent district, managed and maintained as Federal land for the purposes of government.

Congress, Supreme Court, President, etc.

So, shrink "DC" to the size of Capitol Hill, the mall and the White House, and let the rest be the city of Washington, MD?

Cause you know, the city is where it is. Or are you suggesting it should be bulldozed?

 

[phrodeau]

Sure, let's all go against the express desires of the Founding Fathers. No harm can come of that at all.

 

[Hypoxia]

False dichotomy.

Visit Somalia.

Okay, that's about as snide as your unsupported retort. But you apparently have never lived in a police state or under military occupation, never had to constantly thread ad-hoc military checkpoints, never had to worry about which faction claimed the turf you're crossing. I would much rather deal with corrupt pols than insecure warlords, thank you. Bribery is cleaner than getting shot.

 

[Rachel_X]

Make it a state. Then everyone would have to buy new flags with 51 stars.
Instant economy boost.

 

[oggbashan]

Don't create a Brasilia.

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory was a better idea - put all the politicians and embassies in the middle of nowhere with grandiose plans that will take generations to build, and even then no one cares that it is there.

 

[sr71plt]

The original plan for D.C. was not to have anyone live there permanently, for it to be a majestic area of government buildings (for part-time use) and monuments. Their mistake was making the area so large that permanent residents were required to provide services for even temporary occupation by Congress--they couldn't commute in. They didn't deal with the citizen status of residents off the top because they mistakenly didn't think there would be any.

 

[Real_American11]

So, shrink "DC" to the size of Capitol Hill, the mall and the White House, and let the rest be the city of Washington, MD?

Get rid of as much land as possible, and any land that is still in D.C. that has people living on it... those people will need to be compensated for the loss of their property.

D.C. should not have anyone living in it, it should only be commuted to for work and maybe some tourism. The President shouldn't live in the White House either.

Cause you know, the city is where it is. Or are you suggesting it should be bulldozed?

Anything that isn't needed for government use, or doesn't serve as a historical landmark for tourism should be bulldozed and replaced with parks, orchards, fields, etc.

Maybe some art projects (privately funded), like statues, fountains, murals, etc. Some war monuments or something.

 

[sr71plt]

You, of course, are just wasting your breath (as usual) at this point. The city is there now. The suggestion that we shouldn't have a presidential house is also just ridiculous (as you so often are). To a point you brought up earlier, by the way, the White House is a public museum. There are public tours of the first floor and have been for a very long time.

 

[Hypoxia]

The original plan for D.C. was not to have anyone live there permanently, for it to be a majestic area of government buildings (for part-time use) and monuments. Their mistake was making the area so large that permanent residents were required to provide services for even temporary occupation by Congress--they couldn't commute in. They didn't deal with the citizen status of residents off the top because they mistakenly didn't think there would be any.

Then to revert to original intent, we merely need evict everyone from DC, install them in new ring cities linked to the now-empty federal zone with high-speed transit, and eliminate DC as a residential zone.

Oh yeah, return to part-time gov't. Pols only cause trouble when they're in DC too much. The bureaucracy is necessarily full-time but congresscritters are a real nuisance. Go home to your safe districts, kids.

 

[Real_American11]

The city is there now.

So?

The suggestion that we shouldn't have a presidential house is also just ridiculous.

Why?

Why does the president need such a palace? With such large grounds, and therefore massive staff and upkeep costs...

To a point you brought up earlier, by the way, the White House is a public museum.

It is not really a museum, some parts of the house are opened to the public.

Then to revert to original intent, we merely need evict everyone from DC, install them in new ring cities linked to the now-empty federal zone with high-speed transit, and eliminate DC as a residential zone.

That is a great idea!

Oh yeah, return to part-time gov't. Pols only cause trouble when they're in DC too much. The bureaucracy is necessarily full-time but congresscritters are a real nuisance. Go home to your safe districts, kids.

I don't know if this is a facetious post...

If not, I think it's the first time you've been right on anything I've read.

 

[Rachel_X]

It is not really a museum, some parts of the house are opened to the public.

Like every other museum in the world. Restricted areas exist for a reason Slurpy.

 

[Real_American11]

Like every other museum in the world. Restricted areas exist for a reason Slurpy.

Wrong.

The only areas in museums that are restricted are for storage, security rooms, offices, etc.

The White House has 132 rooms, only 8 of which are included in the tours.

 

[phrodeau]

Make it a state. Then everyone would have to buy new flags with 51 stars.
Instant economy boost.

You can get one today, if you like.

http://www.united-states-flag.com/51-star-american-flag-3ftx5ft-sewn-nylon.html

 

[Rachel_X]

Wrong.

The only areas in museums that are restricted are for storage, security rooms, offices, etc.

The White House has 132 rooms, only 8 of which are included in the tours.

Most museums don't have rooms dedicated to discussing national security.