cymbidia you are in danger of turning into a complete fuckwit

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first of all i dont think you are a fuckwit , but i did want to draw you in here to read this
many people admire and respect you on this board for your views insight and the help and advice you have given to others . while your lifestyle maynot suit everybody we all respect your right and desire to live that way . but recently you have become defensive and abusive to the point of paranoia and all over one word and its alleged insulting/non insulting status . nobody would argue that to use the word nigger towards black people would /could be accused of being offensive even if we know that balck people may use the word in their own peer groups if a racist were to use it on this board he would be flamed and rightly so. the fact is that a few individuals have decided that even though they have been informed by others that a word they use to describe people not into their way of life can be seen as inflamative and derogatory they have decided that this is an afront to them and their way of life. the openness and willingness and acceptance of their lifestyle shown to them by other members of lit is being flaunted and they have become arrogant and insulting . the bdsmers ask for people to accept them for who they are yet reject to show the same common courtesy they demand and expect from others.
it is not the word ,it is not any word , it is the context in which it is used that can be insulting , all people are asking is that you respect their views in the same way that they respect yours .
take a step back and look at the greater picture ,we are your friends and friends should be able to point out the error in each others ways without falling out
 
this is not meant to be unregistered , i got logged out while posting it i posted the above thread
 
*enters thread*

*see's that he doesn't have to grudgingly defend cym*

*quickly leaves the thread*
 
Originally posted by pabloback
first of all i dont think you are a fuckwit , but i did want to draw you in here to read this

Pablo, you might have had a good point in your post, but you started off with a personal insult.


I didn't bother to read the rest.



Most others won't either. We all get frustrated when we feel our point isn't being seen by others, but resorting to this is truly beneath you and this board as a whole. It's exactly the behavior I expect of trolls.
 
Unregistered said:
First of all I don't think you are a fuckwit, but I did want to draw you in here to read this.
Many people admire and respect you on this board for your views, insight, and the help and advice you have given to others. While your lifestyle may not suit everybody, we all respect your right and desire to live that way. But recently you have become defensive and abusive to the point of paranoia, and all over one word, and its alleged insulting/non insulting status. Nobody would argue that to use the word nigger towards black people would/could be accused of being offensive. Even if we know that black people may use the word in their own peer groups, if a racist were to use it on this board he would be flamed and rightly so. The fact is that a few individuals have decided that even though they have been informed by others that a word they use to describe people not into their way of life can be seen as inflamative and derogatory they have decided that this is an afront to them and their way of life. The openness, willingness, and acceptance of their lifestyle shown to them by other members of lit. is being flaunted and they have become arrogant and insulting. The bdsmers ask for people to accept them for who they are, yet reject to show the same common courtesy they demand and expect from others.
It is not the word, it is not any word. It is the context in which it is used that can be insulting. All people are asking is that you respect their views in the same way that they respect yours.
Take a step back and look at the greater picture,we are your friends and friends should be able to point out the error in each others ways without falling out.

Sorry, had to do it. The little part of my brain that actually listened in English class was screaming and writhing in pain.
:p
 
writerdom you are entitled to your opinion
even if it is as closed minded and arrogantly bigoted as you are .
have a nice evening
 
pablo, I ahve to side with cym on this.

The argument is pretty minor and nowhere near the "racial epithet" level you've granted it.

The fact is that the word in question was coined by BDSMers for use by them to describe folks who were not them. That's all. A word was needed, and this was it.

If someone decides that the word is insulting, that's pretty much their problem. I'm not going to stop using it freely, as it fairly describes the difference between BDSMers and those who are not. cym, and others, have stated without doubt that there is no insult behind the word, that the use of the word itself was not an insulting one in either origin or use, as most of the other words to which it's been compared have.

That one person may use it as a derogatory term doesn't remove its valid use. Any word can be used as an epithet. Should we outlaw the use of the word "them" just because someone uses that word in place of another word that would be immediately insulting ("Oh..he's one of them.")? That's a ridiculous demand to make and it would be properly and almost immediately ignored.

This should be also.
 
your argument seems to me to be validating my point , i stress again , it is not the word it is the context in which it is used and it has been freely discussed on here that people find the word used in that context to be offensive . i f i kept using a word you found offensive towards you or to describe you , what would your opinion be then?
if you expressed your view to me and i said you are attacking my lifestyle offensive because of the way i describe you what would you feel then?
 
Pablo, Don't feel you have to post ALL this shit about (that word), on OUR behalf.

Why don't you take this crap private? Quite frankly, I'm tired of reading ALL of these thread about (that word) and COCKS.

If Cym is truely a fuckwit, then you are NO better than her, which makes YOU a fuckwit too. Neither side will let it rest, and that's TOO BAD for the rst of us, who are in the middle of this, whether we want to be or not.
 
pabloback said:
your argument seems to me to be validating my point , i stress again , it is not the word it is the context in which it is used and it has been freely discussed on here that people find the word used in that context to be offensive . i f i kept using a word you found offensive towards you or to describe you , what would your opinion be then?
if you expressed your view to me and i said you are attacking my lifestyle offensive because of the way i describe you what would you feel then?

Having read all those threads, I'd like to boil down the discussion to this:

An ignorant person uses the word as a weapon.

Someone is offended by the use of the and states that the word shouldn't be used.

Someone else says that the word is fine and to force us not to use the word is a burden which is unfair. It takes away from us a word which is incredibly common in the community, has a meaning which is nearly universal, and which utility has been proven. And we're left with no good substitute.

Someone says that they're offended, so stop using the word. Others agree.

The inflexible position isn't with the person who is defending the word, it's with the person who maintains that the word shouldn't be used because they were offended by how it was used. Using that logic, none of us could speak, because virtually any word can be used as an insult.

My position is this. Deal with the idiot, not the word. My answer to your question is pretty simple. If you're insulting me, I'll ask you to stop, regardless of the words you used to insult me. I won't ask you not to use a particular word. That's just silly. You could use another word, and we'd argue that all day, until I had asked you not to use every word.
 
i've no idea what we're talking about here at all ... what was the damn word ? ... is pablo against using the word or for using the word ?


im a confused sexy-girl im afraid


but as for cym dont go posting about her in this manner pablo even if it is you're "style" its insulting and not nice ... cym is one of the most lovely posters on here ... and she doesnt go shouting about it either ... most of times when shes nice and there as a friend for people on this board or just being plain kind ... she does it in private where not all the board see's ... thats because she doesnt care about being kind to look good ... she just is kind


(im sleepy sorry for some bad english in that sentence)
 
Herbie Handcock said:
So what the fuck was the question?

I think it was "How many threads can we squeeze out of one lame subject?" The answer is, apparently, infinite.
 
Receiving end is a bitch isn't it...
Even when EVERYONE is supposed to understand your POV.
Good for you:eek:
 
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