C'Ville Rightist Murder Trial Begins

[KeithD]

The three-week murder trial of rightist demonstrator James Field for mowing into folks at the 12 August 2017 "Unite the Right" demonstration with his car in Charlottesville, Virginia, started today with jury selection. The town is crawling with media.


https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/201...te-the-Right-rally-murder-case/6381543240979/

 

[rae121452]

what's really sad is that the asshole is from a place not far from me, his actions are just business as usual around here. he probably wonders what he did wrong.

 

[KeithD]

what's really sad is that the asshole is from a place not far from me, his actions are just business as usual around here. he probably wonders what he did wrong.

That's right, he was just a dumb tool (not hard to find among those neo-Nazis who showed up that day). The delay in the trial was that the Feds were trying to find out who put him up to this. I don't think they did (and I have a well-placed contact on this in the courtroom).

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm not sure exactly what he did wrong either. I have no use for the man personally, but I don't like to see someone get railroaded, and that seems to be what is happening here.

He is charged with first degree murder. I don't know that much about the law in VA but usually this would mean some kind of premeditation or lying in wait or something and that obviously did not happen. He certainly did not drive on the street and decide to kill Heather Heyer. Another possibility could be he was committing a felony and somebody died as a result, but does that fly?

Fields was driving on the street and his way was blocked by a mob of violent demonstrators or rioters. While he was stopped, apparently his vehicle was attacked by some of the mob, using clubs and baseball bats. Fearing for his life, he then drove slowly forward, giving people a chance to get out of the way. However, he struck a parked or stopped vehicle, propelling it forward into the crowd. It struck some members of the crowd, killing one and inflicting injury on many others. However, Fields was then able to back away and speed down the street in reverse until he had a chance to turn around and get out of Dodge.

I have seen videotapes and read eye-witness accounts of this, but the news media seems to be largely hiding these details, or people might be afraid of retribution if they talk of them. Perhaps these facts will come out at the trial, if they are facts.

If his actions were strictly for the sake of self-preservation and his striking the stopped car was not deliberate, then he is probably not guilty of anything. If he is acquitted, he might even sue the prosecutor office for malicious prosecution.

ETA: I don't know how accurate this is, but it's at least as true as some other accounts I have read:https://jasonkessler.us/2018/01/13/james-fields-was-chased-with-a-semi-automatic-rifle-before-crash/

 

[rae121452]

I'm not sure exactly what he did wrong either. I have no use for the man personally, but I don't like to see someone get railroaded, and that seems to be what is happening here.

He is charged with first degree murder. I don't know that much about the law in VA but usually this would mean some kind of premeditation or lying in wait or something and that obviously did not happen. He certainly did not drive on the street and decide to kill Heather Heyer. Another possibility could be he was committing a felony and somebody died as a result, but does that fly?

Shields was driving on the street and his way was blocked by a mob of violent demonstrators or rioters. While he was stopped, apparently his vehicle was attacked by some of the mob, using clubs and baseball bats. Fearing for his life, he then drove slowly forward, giving people a chance to get out of the way. However, he struck a parked or stopped vehicle, propelling it forward into the crowd. It struck some members of the crowd, killing one and inflicting injury on many others. However, Shields was then able to back away and speed down the street in reverse until he had a chance to turn around and get out of Dodge.

I have seen videotapes and read eye-witness accounts of this, but the news media seems to be largely hiding these details, or people might be afraid of retribution if they talk of them. Perhaps these facts will come out at the trial, if they are facts.

If his actions were strictly for the sake of self-preservation and his striking the stopped car was not deliberate, then he is probably not guilty of anything. If he is acquitted, he might even sue the prosecutor office for malicious prosecution.

ETA: I don't know how accurate this is, but it's at least as true as some other accounts I have read:https://jasonkessler.us/2018/01/13/james-fields-was-chased-with-a-semi-automatic-rifle-before-crash/

it's time to put down the pipe, babe.

 

[KeithD]

it's time to put down the pipe, babe.

Boxlicker is just being his usual racist, neo-Nazi self. I'm sure the prosecution in this case will defer to his "greater knowledge" of events.

 

[dan_c00000]

I'm not sure exactly what he did wrong either.

Really? You don't see hitting someone on purpose with your car as "wrong". Wow box. You and racist dawn must have had one hell of a racist wedding.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Sounds like the guy is a real douche even in the (unlikely) event he really was acting to get away from danger.

What I don't get is how Keith is describing a "neo nazi" as "rightist" (unless I misunderstood his title).

Nazis, neo nazis - they don't align in any way with any conservative / libertarian principles I've ever heard of. They usually line up to the left.

By way of reinforcement, the crowd was described as a "unite the right" rally? Never heard of it, but it doesn't sound like Hillary organized it. So it doesn't actually make sense for him to have attacked the crowd unless he is a left loony.

 

[KeithD]

Sounds like the guy is a real douche even in the (unlikely) event he really was acting to get away from danger.

What I don't get is how Keith is describing a "neo nazi" as "rightist" (unless I misunderstood his title).

Nazis, neo nazis - they don't align in any way with any conservative / libertarian principles I've ever heard of. They usually line up to the left.

By way of reinforcement, the crowd was described as a "unite the right" rally? Never heard of it, but it doesn't sound like Hillary organized it. So it doesn't actually make sense for him to have attacked the crowd unless he is a left loony.

Yep, I put Neo-Nazis on the right. Tough if you don't agree.

I'm sure you think the rest of the crap you posted is cute, but it's just crap--and you.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Really? You don't see hitting someone on purpose with your car as "wrong". Wow box. You and racist dawn must have had one hell of a racist wedding.

I don't believe Fields deliberately hit anybody. I believe he was fleeing those who were attacking him and Heather Heyer happened to be in his path. Let's face it: Antifa and BLM are violent thugs and they were present in force. Fields is no better than they, but I believe he is also no worse. A pox on all their houses, I say.

 

[KeithD]

I don't believe Shields deliberately hit anybody. I believe he was fleeing those who were attacking him and Heather Heyer happened to be in his path. Let's face it: Antifa and BLM are violent thugs and they were present in force. Shields is no better than they, but I believe he is also no worse. A pox on all their houses, I say.

What you know about this, could fit on the head of a pin, Box. You don't even know the guy's name. We know you're deplorable. You don't have to post your nonsense for us to know you are. Meanwhile, at least look up what the guy's name is.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Sounds like the guy is a real douche even in the (unlikely) event he really was acting to get away from danger.

What I don't get is how Keith is describing a "neo nazi" as "rightist" (unless I misunderstood his title).

Nazis, neo nazis - they don't align in any way with any conservative / libertarian principles I've ever heard of. They usually line up to the left.

By way of reinforcement, the crowd was described as a "unite the right" rally? Never heard of it, but it doesn't sound like Hillary organized it. So it doesn't actually make sense for him to have attacked the crowd unless he is a left loony.

Those who were legally demonstrating and marching were part of the "Unite the Right." The mob who attacked them, violating their Constitutional rights, was made up of several leftist groups and individuals. Silly Hilly had nothing to do with it, but some of the attackers were probably supporter of hers.

 

[KeithD]

Those who were legally demonstrating and marching were part of the "Unite the Right." The mob who attacked them, violating their Constitutional rights, was made up of several leftist groups and individuals. Silly Hilly had nothing to do with it, but some of the attackers were probably supporter of hers.

If you remember I said at the time (from first-hand observation and analysis) that the counter demonstrators ignited the actual violence and included outsiders who came equipped for fighting and prone to confrontation.

That said, that doesn't have a damn thing to do with revving your engine from the top of a road and ramming people in the back with a car at high speed when the people were five blocks from the confrontation and walking away from it.

Throughout this whole event you've been a Neo-Nazi scumbag denying what's been there on tape all along and shown innumerable times. Just get the fuck off this thread and watch what comes out of the trial from people a whole hell of lot smarter and less swarmy than you are.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Yep, I put Neo-Nazis on the right. Tough if you don't agree.

I'm sure you think the rest of the crap you posted is cute, but it's just crap--and you.

Not tough at all. You're just wrong, that's all. It happens. Feel free to elaborate on what make a Nazi a conservative lol. That should be amusing.

Not sure why you would find that incident "cute" but whatever. Another point of disagreement, I guess.

 

[Boxlicker101]

What you know about this, could fit on the head of a pin, Box. You don't even know the guy's name. We know you're deplorable. You don't have to post your nonsense for us to know you are. Meanwhile, at least look up what the guy's name is.

Sorry about that. Okay, James Fields. But that doesn't change the chain of events.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Sorry about that. Okay, James Fields. But that doesn't change the chain of events.

Yes, it does because what you said is of course completely wrong. The real events:

According to the federal indictment unsealed in late June, Fields drove from his home in Ohio to attend the "Unite the Right" rally at Emancipation Park in Charlottesville, which featured white supremacist leaders, and that he joined in "chants promoting or expressing white supremacist and other anti-Semitic and racist views."

After local authorities declared the rally an "unlawful assembly" and dispersed participants, Fields, according to the indictment, returned to his car and drove to where the counter-demonstration was occurring on Fourth Street in downtown Charlottesville. Protesters were chanting and carrying signs promoting equality and denouncing racial and other forms of discrimination. With no vehicle behind him, Fields slowly reversed his vehicle to the top of a hill, according to the indictment. [NOTE: if he slowly reversed, where was he attacked?]

"Fields then rapidly accelerated, ran through a stop sign and across a raised pedestrian mall, and drove directly into the crowd, striking numerous individuals, killing Heather Heyer, and injuring many others," the indictment alleges. "Field's vehicle stopped only when it struck another vehicle ... He then rapidly reversed his vehicle and fled the scene." [NOTE: where was he attacked?]
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But please, tell us where he was attacked. If he was under attack, why did he slowly reverse his car several blocks, supposedly away from any attack, then accelerate back into a crowd he knew existed and which supposedly attacked him?

It's amazing how stupid can be when they think they're being smart or trying to troll others.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/jury-selection-begins-trial-deadly-charlottesville-car-attacker/story?id=59417899

 

[gunthernehmen]

Yes, it does because what you said is of course completely wrong. The real events:

According to the federal indictment unsealed in late June, Fields drove from his home in Ohio to attend the "Unite the Right" rally at Emancipation Park in Charlottesville, which featured white supremacist leaders, and that he joined in "chants promoting or expressing white supremacist and other anti-Semitic and racist views."

After local authorities declared the rally an "unlawful assembly" and dispersed participants, Fields, according to the indictment, returned to his car and drove to where the counter-demonstration was occurring on Fourth Street in downtown Charlottesville. Protesters were chanting and carrying signs promoting equality and denouncing racial and other forms of discrimination. With no vehicle behind him, Fields slowly reversed his vehicle to the top of a hill, according to the indictment. [NOTE: if he slowly reversed, where was he attacked?]

"Fields then rapidly accelerated, ran through a stop sign and across a raised pedestrian mall, and drove directly into the crowd, striking numerous individuals, killing Heather Heyer, and injuring many others," the indictment alleges. "Field's vehicle stopped only when it struck another vehicle ... He then rapidly reversed his vehicle and fled the scene." [NOTE: where was he attacked?]
​

But please, tell us where he was attacked. If he was under attack, why did he slowly reverse his car several blocks, supposedly away from any attack, then accelerate back into a crowd he knew existed and which supposedly attacked him?

It's amazing how stupid can be when they think they're being smart or trying to troll others.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/jury-selection-begins-trial-deadly-charlottesville-car-attacker/story?id=59417899

Well I for one completely missed that one in the news. Sounds like it would have been well covered, too.

Whatever that unite crowd claimed, there is no room in conservative principles for any kind of race supremacism. Some people might claim that but they're lefty loonies in disguise. Take your racism and shove it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'll be glad when the unedited evidence and the eye-witness accounts Come to light during the trial.

 

[dan_c00000]

I'm a huge racist and white supremacist.

That's what you meant to say. Go look at the videos of him driving into the crowd. No on was attacking him. You're a racist plain and simple.

 

[KeithD]

That's what you meant to say. Go look at the videos of him driving into the crowd. No on was attacking him. You're a racist plain and simple.

Box has been referred to the existing videos for over a year and pretends that they don't show what they clearly show. Not so much his racist side, more his neo-Nazi and dumber than a fence post side.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101 View Post
I'm a huge racist and white supremacist.

Well I'd sure love to suck you off and swallow your cum, especially after you fuck me in the ass bareback.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Boxlicker is just being his usual racist, neo-Nazi self. I'm sure the prosecution in this case will defer to his "greater knowledge" of events.

Here is a videotape of Fields' car being attacked as it was moving slowly down the street:http://www.departmentofmemes.com/ar...ked-charlottesville-drivers-car-baseball-bat/


And here is an eye witness: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/eyewi...ar-attacked-police-set-rally-goers-assaulted/

Hopefully, things such as this will be disclosed further during the trial.

 

[dan_c00000]

Box has been referred to the existing videos for over a year and pretends that they don't show what they clearly show. Not so much his racist side, more his neo-Nazi and dumber than a fence post side.

He's trying to troll but he's really awful at it because he actually believes himself. You're exactly right in that he's a particularly stupid racist Nazi.

I wonder if he changes his font to white and eliminates various black/brown elements from his life?

 

[dan_c00000]

Hey racist box why don't you read this?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hey racist box why don't you read this?

I don't read the WaPo because they want to charge me to do so.