Cruel and unusual

[Netzach]

Y'all really have never met a self identified emotional masochist without any interest in physical pain?

Lid for every pot. Don't worry about this guy if that's not who you are. This is unfair, mean, manipulative, probably long-term untenable, but hot as fuck for some of us. I particularly like the fact that what everyone thinks is sacrosanct is actually on the table, and I can get behind the literary device of the word "kind" applied to anything but.

Everything is out in the open and on the table, and people are calling *this* abusive. It's probably the least abuse-prone situation I've seen in a long time, because a really dangerous abuser is generally looking to "help" "save" "nurture" and all those happy buzzwords we hear all the time.

An abuser ignores and freezes out, they don't say "by the way I'll be ignoring you and freezing you out."

I see some self-awareness and creativity here. And the wrong person for a lot of people, but the right person for some people.

 

[Netzach]

..." Kind "... I see.

Well, I suppose those that are psychologically abusive pieces of shit have to use some type of logic to justify being an emotional parasite, but calling it kindness borders on pathology... Which makes sense.

The things listed by that person, that's not punishment, that's abuse. Malicious abuse at that. Withholding affection and destroying what is supposed to be an intimate symbol between two people, is the kind of thing someone with severe emotional issues would do to someone. The kind of person that's not even stable enough to be put in charge of an ant farm.

To me, punishment comes after discipline, and that shouldn't happen often, nor should it be something that scars someone. I'm not doing it in anger, and I'm not doing it because I want to, I'm doing it because I'm disappointed and you're going to take it because you want to prove that you are sorry. I don't plan it out, we cross that bridge when we get there, not something I ever look forward to. Sincerity, there is no sincerity in the things described there, only spite and more than a little hate. Points for advertising with big red flags though, at least no one will stumble into that blindly.

So here's to hoping the author, being such a kind guy and all, does the world a kindness, and goes out and finds a curb to bite,
and waits until the kindest of cement trucks drives by.

And what inherent life right, superior wisdom, and better I have My Shit Together positioning means that you SHOULD be the person in your relationship to get to "express your disappointment" in the other in a punitive fashion? Other than that person's consent and enjoyment of that framing?

Like, where does your authority come from? You smarter than all your bottoms/subs? I'm not.

Because I'm way less scared of the fact that my authority comes from my snatch and my say so and my queen for a day mental flailings, than I would be scared of myself if I actually thought my kink was "for her own good" when I punish another grown ass adult.

Everyone's perversity looks pretty hypocritical and messed up at base if you want to go there.

 

[MeekMe]

Oh, I'm so happy to see you Netzach.

 

[abbeycity]

I prefer both.

The physical punishment is more intense of course,but emotional punishment puts the sub in his/her place definitely. I prefer my Dorm to use both,provided the end result yields sexual satisfaction for the both of us. The reason I said that is that, you'll see some proud dorm inflicting emotional punishment on their sub but they are doing it out of anger or sometimes hatred,which can be detrimental to both parties.