Creepy Santa Claus

[JohnSm123]

It is said that, on Christmas Eve, Santa Claus freezes time so he can visit all the houses before dawn. Have you ever thought how much potential that has?

In the houses he visits, all the housewives are frozen in time, at his mercy. He can do to them whatever he wants (wink, wink.)

As for the "no rape" rule, you can write the housewives that Santa "took care of" waking up in a good mood, with a pleasant sensation in their genitalia, having no idea what happened.

 

[Rob_Royale]

It is said that, on Christmas Eve, Santa Claus freezes time so he can visit all the houses before dawn. Have you ever thought how much potential that has?

In the houses he visits, all the housewives are frozen in time, at his mercy. He can do to them whatever he wants (wink, wink.)

As for the "no rape" rule, you can write the housewives that Santa "took care of" waking up in a good mood, with a pleasant sensation in their genitalia, having no idea what happened.

Yeah, I don't think that would fly. It's still rape. Stop trying to push the limits, John.
However, if you take it in a mind-control direction, perhaps nasty 'ol Santa unfreezes time for the woman he wants, but his innate magical nature makes the ladies very susceptible to suggestion. And since he automatically knows if you've been bad or good, he knows just which women are really, really, bad, in the best possible way.

 

[Devinter]

"I'm going to plunge down your chimney pipe, you hoe hoe hoe."

In all seriousness; If you rape someone, and they have no idea it happened, it's still rape. I hope you understand that.

 

[Lube_it_up]

As for the "no rape" rule

Is this rule written somewhere?
I have seen several stories on this site about stopping time. And they did exactly what you expect from stories about stopping time.
Just don't describe it as a terrible traumatic experience for women, that should be enough. She's scared but she's horny. End.
Fuck what are we even talking about. I recently read an author whose stories literally involve rape. And it's not just one story, it's many stories. Of course, I did not read all but only two that interested me. But in the preface to one of these stories, he emphasizes "the protagonists of my stories never agree with what happens to them but they are always betrayed by their own body"

Yeah, I don't think that would fly. It's still rape. Stop trying to push the limits, John.

Already flying
https://www.literotica.com/s/internude-denudement
https://www.literotica.com/s/timestop-biology-teacher

And if on topic, I came here to write a George Carlin joke that I remembered: Why is Santa so cheerful all the time? Because he knows where all the bad girls live.

 

[JohnSm123]

Yeah, I don't think that would fly. It's still rape. Stop trying to push the limits, John.
However, if you take it in a mind-control direction, perhaps nasty 'ol Santa unfreezes time for the woman he wants, but his innate magical nature makes the ladies very susceptible to suggestion. And since he automatically knows if you've been bad or good, he knows just which women are really, really, bad, in the best possible way.

How's this? Santa is a charming young man (the white beard is fake and his uniform is stuffed so he looks fat). Every Christmas Eve, he seduces countless beautiful housewives around the world, stopping time for everyone except him and the woman he visits at the time.

 

[Rob_Royale]

How's this? Santa is a charming young man (the white beard is fake and his uniform is stuffed so he looks fat). Every Christmas Eve, he seduces countless beautiful housewives around the world, stopping time for everyone except him and the woman he visits at the time.

Perfect!

 

[lovecraft68]

Yeah, I don't think that would fly. It's still rape. Stop trying to push the limits, John.
However, if you take it in a mind-control direction, perhaps nasty 'ol Santa unfreezes time for the woman he wants, but his innate magical nature makes the ladies very susceptible to suggestion. And since he automatically knows if you've been bad or good, he knows just which women are really, really, bad, in the best possible way.

Honestly? The entire Mind Control category is 100% non consent
An entire section of lit where women(usually, but sometimes men too) are either drugged, hypnotized, under the influence of a spell, a talisman, a machine, someone's mental ability, a super power etc....but what they all have in common is the victim cannot give consent, this is date rape in every example

So...as much as I'd like to agree with you? He can do this, just put in MC.

 

[Rob_Royale]

Honestly? The entire Mind Control category is 100% non consent
An entire section of lit where women(usually, but sometimes men too) are either drugged, hypnotized, under the influence of a spell, a talisman, a machine, someone's mental ability, a super power etc....but what they all have in common is the victim cannot give consent, this is date rape in every example

So...as much as I'd like to agree with you? He can do this, just put in MC.

Well, of course, I wasn't suggesting otherwise. But in a time-stop situation, the woman can derive no pleasure from the act, as she's oblivious. So by Lit rules, wouldn't get past Laurel and Manu. At least with the MC, the woman could technically enjoy it, but it is not a moral act. But his Santa doesn't sound like a moral guy.

 

[Rob_Royale]

Is this rule written somewhere?
I have seen several stories on this site about stopping time. And they did exactly what you expect from stories about stopping time.
Just don't describe it as a terrible traumatic experience for women, that should be enough. She's scared but she's horny. End.
Fuck what are we even talking about. I recently read an author whose stories literally involve rape. And it's not just one story, it's many stories. Of course, I did not read all but only two that interested me. But in the preface to one of these stories, he emphasizes "the protagonists of my stories never agree with what happens to them but they are always betrayed by their own body"
Already flying
https://www.literotica.com/s/internude-denudement
https://www.literotica.com/s/timestop-biology-teacher

Yes, the rule for non-con is as follows,

To that end, we DO NOT publish works of any type featuring the following content:
Ravishment/non-consent fantasies in which the “victim” receives no thrill or enjoyment from the acts.

In any case, I do see your point. But the "look what others have done" is a shaky defense for anything. I would not want to put the time and energy into a story that takes me weeks to write, if there was even a slight chance, that it would get kicked back for pushing the boundaries. Not when there are so many other options.

The rules are here and we have to abide by them. There are rules that I don't agree with, and in my searches, it seems that some stories have gotten around them. But, I'm not going to try, because I hate wasting effort. The story I can't write is one of fifty story ideas that I have. Better to put the effort there.

 

[Lube_it_up]

Well, of course, I wasn't suggesting otherwise. But in a time-stop situation, the woman can derive no pleasure from the act, as she's oblivious. So by Lit rules, wouldn't get past Laurel and Manu. At least with the MC, the woman could technically enjoy it, but it is not a moral act. But his Santa doesn't sound like a moral guy.

It's obvious that you haven't read these stories. There stop time works far from scientific norms. Usually, when time starts moving, the victim instantly feels all the stimulation received during the stop.

To that end, we DO NOT publish works of any type featuring the following content:
Ravishment/non-consent fantasies in which the “victim” receives no thrill or enjoyment from the acts.

This is ironic given that the site literally has a "NONCONSENT/RELUCTANCE" category.
It is your right not to take risks. But it seems that the rules are a bit broader. I think that the main guideline is that the stories are not too violent. The story where the woman was beaten up and sent to the hospital will probably not work, the story with a little physical coercion will most likely be approved.

 

[Rob_Royale]

It's obvious that you haven't read these stories. There stop time works far from scientific norms. Usually, when time starts moving, the victim instantly feels all the stimulation received during the stop.


This is ironic given that the site literally has a "NONCONSENT/RELUCTANCE" category.
It is your right not to take risks. But it seems that the rules are a bit broader. I think that the main guideline is that the stories are not too violent. The story where the woman was beaten up and sent to the hospital will probably not work, the story with a little physical coercion will most likely be approved.

Correct. I have not.
Correct again. My responses are based on what the OP gave us. John has a history here of pushing the boundaries of what is permissible, with his ideas. I was simply trying to push him back from the edge. We're still hoping to see a story from him and it would help him to not have it kicked back.

 

[Brandnewbuddy]

Look, you can always try and publish it and see if it gets rejected and if you're hell bent on still putting it out there if it does get rejected, then go ahead. there are other sites that have zero restrictions.

But my bigger issue is...I don't get the appeal.

I won't pretend that there aren't nonconsent stories I like. Usually I couch them in fatasy so it's orcs or goblins doing it but I do still enjoy a bodice ripper or a blackmail story from time to time. I don't read them as much as I used to (same with Taboo stories), so I'm not coming at this from a holier than though standpoint, I'm coming at it from an "I don't get it."

Liike timestop fantasies, aren't my thing but usually they involve some average guy getting an amazing ability and using it to satisfy his desires. The appeal is to that part of your brain that you try and push away whenever it intrudes on your thoughts. It's that pleasure of watching some schmuck give in to depravity and maybe for a moment you get the reader to put themselves in the MC's shoes and wonder if they'd do the same.

But having Santa puts a wrinkle on things that just makes things off. I mean Santa's a supernatural being so not really relatable or something your reader can put themselves into.

So instead of "some guy who on my worst day I could be gets a power that lets him get away with things that may have crossed my mind at my most depraved moments" it's "Santa Clause stops time and fucks women on Christmas eve." i mean as a shock joke it could work but i don't get what the appeal to the reader is.

 

[CuttingEdge]

I see both sides...

For many years I wrote pulp erotic stories, which are stories that our great grandfathers would read in the 1930's. They were NOT politically correct I admit, because back in the 1930's that was not a thing. So, think of True Crime magazine stories here, or naughty stories regarding loose women, prostitutes and the like and all done during the desperate times that was the Great Depression. None of which I am now proud of...

And to that end I have written stories on Literotica that I have NO IDEA how they were published on here, but were.

But @JohnSm123 has a lot of history of having "Edge Cases" where he purposefully tries to squeeze in a story that he knows is a fine line from being allowed, or not allowed, and it gets tiring to constantly bump up against that mindset. We have moderators granted, but good gracious @sirhugs has better things to do that combat edge cases constantly.

Sirhugs has rebuked me on several occasions, and he was good about it, and was correct in what he was doing. But constant edge cases from the same person over and over gets tiring. At some point writers that want to write edge case stuff must realize, maybe this is not the place for them! IS that so hard to figure out?

 

[OlderFitterWiser]

It is said that, on Christmas Eve, Santa Claus freezes time so he can visit all the houses before dawn. Have you ever thought how much potential that has?

In the houses he visits, all the housewives are frozen in time, at his mercy. He can do to them whatever he wants (wink, wink.)

As for the "no rape" rule, you can write the housewives that Santa "took care of" waking up in a good mood, with a pleasant sensation in their genitalia, having no idea what happened.

Stopping time is definitely one of my fantasies, Invisibility is another.

 

[AchtungNight]

Personally I would never feature Santa Claus as a character in any adult entertainment story. His primary audience is not adults, after all. He’s also a bit outside my preferred body shape. Maybe I’d feature his younger sister Clara Claus but not Santa himself. Too disturbing imho.

 

[CuttingEdge]

Personally I would never feature Santa Claus as a character in any adult entertainment story. His primary audience is not adults, after all. He’s also a bit outside my preferred body shape. Maybe I’d feature his younger sister Clara Claus but not Santa himself. Too disturbing imho.

Or Jessica Clause, Santa's wife. I believe there is a Santa Story where Jessica is a teacher and meets with Chris Cringle when he brings her students toys.

My wife dressed up as a VERY sexy Mrs. Clause one year, which was a lot of fun. No too many cookies for her though, she was a size four Mrs. Clause and put the words "ho, ho, ho", in my vocabulary that year.

 

[AchtungNight]

Not denying Mrs. Claus can be a sexy costume, my significant other has worn that attire at times. But I’m personally not into the attire as much as I am its absence.

 

[Rob_Royale]

Just had the thought of sitting on his lap and humping his knee to cum like a naughty little

That's a sexy idea. And the bulge in his red trousers makes you sure that your stocking will get stuffed just the way you want.

 

[Corbie]

Just had the thought of sitting on his lap and humping his knee to cum like a naughty little

And then after that he takes down your panties and fucks you like the naughty slut you are!

 

[JohnSm123]

Just had the thought of sitting on his lap and humping his knee to cum like a naughty little

That would be an awesome idea ...

 

[tristianc]

I’ve wanted to write a story about a perverted Santa in my 20’s, but I can’t remember what I found hot about it.

 

[Corbie]

Ridind Santa

First he's going to turn your ass red for being such a slut this year.

 

[Ssbbw4u1974]

It is said that, on Christmas Eve, Santa Claus freezes time so he can visit all the houses before dawn. Have you ever thought how much potential that has?

In the houses he visits, all the housewives are frozen in time, at his mercy. He can do to them whatever he wants (wink, wink.)

As for the "no rape" rule, you can write the housewives that Santa "took care of" waking up in a good mood, with a pleasant sensation in their genitalia, having no idea what happened.

Are you secretly Bill Cosby?