Craigs List Post: Why Nice Guys Suck

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Why nice guys SUCK
Date: 2006-09-10, 9:19PM EDT


This is a long rant, so bear with me or hit your back button. I'm frustrated and in no mood for your shit either, so if you don't want to read it, well...

So I'm dating a nice guy now and it SUCKS. No other way to explain it, it just SUCKS. He's no challenge. He agrees with everything I say. He's got it all though - a decent job, a nice house, no kids, no psycho ex-wives, and he's tall and cute. Anyone ever seen that Friends episode when Alec Baldwin played Phoebe's boyfriend?? YEAH, my boyfriend is THAT nice. He's just too fucking nice. Nice is boring. I've never heard him raise his voice. He's never aggressive. He has no edge. He won't even drive over the speed limit and that fucking annoys the shit out of me, yet I sit in the passenger seat and keep my mouth shut... watching everyone whiz by us.

And don't get me started on the sex. Oh, excuse me... making love. After he cums (note I didn't mention anything about ME cumming), he rolls over and says "Oh, that was nice" with a little sigh. I KID YOU NOT, he says it EVERY TIME and then he sighs like he has just woken from a refreshing nap. I finally got so tired of missionary and him looking lovingly into my eyes and smiling as he came, that I threw him down on the couch one night and mounted him. At first he was terrified - yes, TERRIFIED. He thought something had possessed me. And it HAD -- it was sheer MADNESS. I fucked the shit out of him that night. And then he sighed and said "Oh, that was nice".

Now that we had the cowgirl position conquered (always with that sigh afterwards), it was time to move on to doggie. His ex-girlfriend never did doggie (hmmm... maybe there's a "nice" ex-girlfriend to blame for his timid niceness?? That bitch...). Anyway, I digress. I tell him I want him to fuck me from behind. Yes, I used the word "fuck" and I didn't care what he thought about it. He gets behind me and enters me, and damned if he didn't say "OH, THIS IS NICE" !!! Are there any 35 y/o men out there that haven't smacked a woman's ass when doing her doggie?? YES, and he's my boyfriend!

Tonight during sex, I think I'm gonna tell him to stick his finger in my ass when I'm riding him. THAT should be interesting.

So for the nice guys out there, my advice is this: It's great that you're nice (to an extent), but have some backbone. Don't be a spine donor all your life. When your girl is out of line, say something. Don't let her walk all over you. Occasionally, be a "bad" boy (being bad doesn't translate to abusive or criminal). Say "No" to her sometimes. Raise your voice and be heard. Say something dirty/sexy to her occasionally. Drink a few too many beers and piss out in public. Smack her ass. Don't ever use the word NICE to describe things, especially sex (okay, that may be a personal pet peeve). Have an interest in at LEAST one sport (or pretend to). Drive 5-10 miles over the speed limit once in awhile. Run an old lady off the road just for kicks (yeah, I'm kidding about this one... just ride her bumper for a few miles). Be aggressive during sex. Take off those damn white socks and Jesus sandals. Grow a goatee for a few weeks. Shave your balls. Stray from your routine and shake things up.

BE A MAN FOR GOD'S SAKE... and the women will fall at your feet.

Whew... THAT FELT NICE.
 
I have to agree....to an extent.

Wolfie is very considerate and usually has my thoughts/feelings in his mind...that said, he has long hair, tons and tons of tattoos, and could throw me over his shoulder with one arm - easily. He'll also fight back when things get a little out of whack between us.

No one likes a doormat. And, as far as sex goes, making love is wonderful, but a good hard fuck, ass slapping and all, certainly has it's place, as well. :devil:
 
yep - nice = boring!
This is why we always find the bad boys far more attractive than the sweet, nice ones. Mean and moody is always more fun.
I run a mile from nice men and usually fall for the ones who treat me badly. And the moral here? Stay celibate. :rolleyes:
 
I really needed to read that. :mad:

Watch, next week the authour will be hooked up with a bad boy and she'll be bitching about how she wishes he was nice.

I'm sure glad I took myself for New Years. A lot less stress not having to deal with the 'fairer' sex as anything other than friends.
 
She just wants a guy with a spine, Rob... one that isn't gonna roll over and say "Gee, that's nice" after sex... one that has some integrity, that isn't gonna compromise his principles, someone who is creative and even a little dominant in bed, who's willing to push her up against a wall and take her...

hmm... I think I should introduce you two, Rob! ;)
 
Ok... I consider myself a nice guy, but I'm not that nice...

I will stand up for myself, I do speed, I will (probbaly) be aggresive in bed, and there aint no way in hell I'm commenting about how "nice" sex was every time I've had it. (chances are) I will be more than ready to go again (in fear of never getting any again ;) ).

What a wuss...
 
Get that boy a thesaurus. "Nice" ain't the only adjective out there. A full-tilt-boogie, no holds-barred, mind-melting blow job had better elicit more than a "nice"!
 
glynndah said:
Get that boy a thesaurus. "Nice" ain't the only adjective out there. A full-tilt-boogie, no holds-barred, mind-melting blow job had better elicit more than a "nice"!

I'd slap a guy if I went all out with my mouth around his dick and he said "Oh that was nice." Then I'd smother him with my pussy. :devil:

I wouldn't be able to deal with that nice. Nice is good, sweet is amazing but I need someone with a spine and sex only in missionary? Oh no, not without my legs on his shoulders.
 
SelenaKittyn said:
She just wants a guy with a spine, Rob... one that isn't gonna roll over and say "Gee, that's nice" after sex... one that has some integrity, that isn't gonna compromise his principles, someone who is creative and even a little dominant in bed, who's willing to push her up against a wall and take her...

hmm... I think I should introduce you two, Rob! ;)

I have to agree with you there...there is being nice, and being considerate...but there needs to be a passion for life...a desire to push the limits at times...and I just didn't see that in her description of Mr. Nice...
 
:rolleyes: Nice guy does not equal doormat. What you've got there is a doormat, not a nice guy. I've got a nice guy, and he knows how to do it right.
 
First, it's a rather poorly written bit of an attempt at satire, or sarcasm (hard to tell really). I get the point of it being posted, but I suspect a few people here could make it (the point) more cleverly and on target.

A man who does not help his lover to orgasm, after his own, is definitely not "nice", so the author lost me at that point and just sounded silly.
 
Same old, same old. For many girls there are only two types of men, wimps and crude motherfuckers. That said, a guy who can't bring a girl to climax maybe does not even qualify as a wimp. Subwimp?
 
Wow, that was a lot of whine for one rant. Why does she keep on dating someone she doesn't even like?
 
I agree with what some have said. I've known nice guys and I'll choose one every time but that's not nice, that's milktoast.
 
From the first paragraph I had little pity for her. My attitude was "if you dont' want him, throw him back, because there are tons of women who are looking for a guy like that."

The second paragraph earned her some sympathy from me. Her problem is her lover is boring, and doesn't really care about her sexual pleasure. Still, most sexual issues are communication issues, and communication is a two way street. They may simply be sexually incompatible, if she's just kinkier than he is (believe me, plenty of women are NOT into having their asses spanked during sex!)

Anyways, CL posts should always be taken with a grain of salt as for their authenticity. As other posts around here have outlined, there are "nice guys" and truly nice guys. The former are generally whiners and difficult to be around, but the latter should be treasured by the women who date them.
 
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(believe me, plenty of women are NOT into having their asses spanked during sex!)


SelenaKittyn said:

Personally, I have never slapped a woman's ass, or any other part, during sex. I have written about it and seen it in porno movies but I can't help but think most women wouldn't like it. Maybe if she's into masochism, but not otherwise. Of course, I don't care much for doggie style, preferring face to face positions, without much concern for who is on top.
 
I've flat out slapped the shit out of a woman before, during sex. Knocked her off her feet. I've done a lot of bad things during sex.

I think the "nice guy" stereotype is often an excuse for the insecure to indulge in their own self-consciousness. I think the average guy is not a "nice guy"--he forgets the occasional birthday, he doesn't worship the ground she walks on, he shows he loves her in the best ways he can which can range from truly romantic moments to occasional thoughtfulness (both of which have more meaning because he's not the "nice guy" who all but thinks he lives in a romantic comedy), he's got his own friends and his own life and is as likely to say "yes" when asked if the dress makes her ass look fat as he is to say "no" because he's being honest and not being a lapdog.
 
Oh My.

I am not a nice guy. I have never been one and never will be one. Calling me one is not a compliment.

That being said.

I will go out of my way to make sure my partner reaches orgasm before I do. I will try to make her as comfortable as possible. I will go out of my way to make her happy, without the use of violence.

Yes there is a difference between a guy who stands up for himself and lives, and a man who is pussy whipped. There is a difference between a man who makes his S/O happy and the one who thinks only of himself. That being said.

If I see someone else slap their woman to the ground I will gladly break both their arms. If I see a male hit a woman I will introduce him to levels of pain he never imagined. If I see a male raise his hand against a woman I will step in and accept the consequences of my actions. I have done this in the past and will do it again. There is a difference between sexual play and abuse.

Cat
 
I used to be a nice guy. I took women out in limos, slipped the doorman 50 bucks to get into overcrowded clubs with no apps menu, all that shit. Not anymore.

I was Poindexter, standing out in the rain while the players banged the bitches I wanted to bang. So I changed my approach. Stopped spending money. Became an asshole. Highly recommended.

--Zack
 
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