Council or counsel

carsonshepherd

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I'm having a momentary brain malfunction. A lawyer is a councellor, right? The more I look at the words, the more they seem like nonsense.
 
carsonshepherd said:
I'm having a momentary brain malfunction. A lawyer is a councellor, right? The more I look at the words, the more they seem like nonsense.
Counsel can be a lawyer
 
carsonshepherd said:
I'm having a momentary brain malfunction. A lawyer is a councellor, right? The more I look at the words, the more they seem like nonsense.


Council is a group

Counsel is advice I think.

What do i know, I use dictionary dot com when unsure :)
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Council is a group

Counsel is advice I think.

What do i know, I use dictionary dot com when unsure :)

I'm far too lazy to actually look something up. ;)

I'll check it :kiss:
 
According to Roget, a counselor is a lawyer. I wasn't spelling it correctly, which is why it looked like nonsense. Duh :rolleyes:
 
Rideme Cowgirl said:
So what's a consular and stuff?

Debbie :heart:
A "consul" is some other type of diplomat, I believe it refers to those stationed in other countries, often called "consular officials."

Give Colly a gold star.

Carson, a counselor is anyone who gives cousel, help, advice, direction, such as: lawyers, guidance counselors, psychologist, etc.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
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Rumple Foreskin said:
A "consul" is some other type of diplomat, I believe it refers to those stationed in other countries, often called "consular officials."

Give Colly a gold star.

Carson, a counselor is anyone who gives cousel, help, advice, direction, such as: lawyers, guidance counselors, psychologist, etc.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:

They use that term on Law & Order all the time. :)
 
British

And we Brits spell the words differently and have different terminology for lawyers.

In British English:

Council:
A Council is an elected body of local government equating to a City or County in the US so:

Parish Council: Elected body for a Civil Parish, usually a village.
Town Council: Same as above but for a town.
City or District Council: Level above Parish/Town Council.
County Council: Level above City or District Council.
Unitary Authority: One that combines functions of City/District and County Council.
Metropolitan Council: Unitary Authority for urban area.

The elected members of all the above are Councillors. Some authorities e.g. The City of London have Aldermen who are long-serving Councillors.

Counsel:
To give advice or a lawyer appointed to represent a party in a Court 'Counsel for the Defence'; 'Counsel for the Prosecution'. Both are likely to be Barristers, but in lower courts can be solicitors.

'Counsellor/s' are terms not usually used in British Courts. There can be counsellors for other purposes e.g. Social Workers can be counsellors for the people they look after.

Consul:
A person representing the interests of a country's citizens in a foreign country but a level below an ambassador and below the status of an Embassy. Consuls and Consular Agents are often found at ports of entry. The person does not have to be a national of the country represented. They usually deal with mundane matters such as lost passports and trade paperwork.

Og
 
oggbashan said:
And we Brits spell the words differently and have different terminology for lawyers.

In British English:

Council:
A Council is an elected body of local government equating to a City or County in the US so:

Parish Council: Elected body for a Civil Parish, usually a village.
Town Council: Same as above but for a town.
City or District Council: Level above Parish/Town Council.
County Council: Level above City or District Council.
Unitary Authority: One that combines functions of City/District and County Council.
Metropolitan Council: Unitary Authority for urban area.

The elected members of all the above are Councillors. Some authorities e.g. The City of London have Aldermen who are long-serving Councillors.

Counsel:
To give advice or a lawyer appointed to represent a party in a Court 'Counsel for the Defence'; 'Counsel for the Prosecution'. Both are likely to be Barristers, but in lower courts can be solicitors.

'Counsellor/s' are terms not usually used in British Courts. There can be counsellors for other purposes e.g. Social Workers can be counsellors for the people they look after.

Consul:
A person representing the interests of a country's citizens in a foreign country but a level below an ambassador and below the status of an Embassy. Consuls and Consular Agents are often found at ports of entry. The person does not have to be a national of the country represented. They usually deal with mundane matters such as lost passports and trade paperwork.

Og

The definitions are the same in American english. However, a "council" does not necessarily have to be elected or a part of a government. A church can have a "Council of Elders" for instance.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
The definitions are the same in American english. However, a "council" does not necessarily have to be elected or a part of a government. A church can have a "Council of Elders" for instance.

We also have other 'Councils' but confusion can arise.

The most usual confusion is that a Parish Council looks after the civil matters of a village such as cutting grass verges and maintaining street lights, and a Parochial Church Council (Church of England) is responsible for the Parish Church, the parishoners (churchgoers) and the Church's property such as the Church building and its graveyard. The area covered by the Civil Parish and the Church Parish is likely to be the same but can be different.

The Parish Councillors are elected by all the registered voters in the Parish.

The Parochial Church Councillors are elected by the Church's members in the Parish.

Unfortunately in both cases the candidates are often elected without a contest because there are more places than candidates. Neither set of councillors are paid.

Og
 
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