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Svenskaflicka

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On another thread, I complained about the sad fact that intelligent -not to mention humble! - people like myself are unemployed, whereas complete morons have well-paid jobs. As everyone understand, I was in contact with an Authority Figure this morning.

My education ends in 3 weeks. I'm looking for a job, and the day school ends, I'll register as Unemployed at the agency. Since I only have school the first two weeks, I'll only get half of my monthly study-pay from the state. That won't cover my expenses, so this morning, I called the social office, to ask them to send me a form to apply for financial aid. I got to talk to what sounded like a young woman.

Now, I don't know how you handle these kind of things where you live, but in my town, people who work in the social office only have one brain cell to share among the employees. Today was not this young woman's turn to have the cell.

First, she determined that since I had been to the social office before, 6 months ago, I'd have to go back to my old supervisor rather than to be registered as a new case. Whatever. So, I was a student? Of what? Webdesign. And why did I need to seek financial aid?
I explained that I wouldn't get enough money from my studies, since I was only going to study for half of April. That brought on Genius Question no 1: "Why won't you get a full monthly pay? Haven't you applied for a full payment?"

Through my teeth, I explained that this is the way the CSN (which handles student payments and loans) works. According to their rules, my course was ONE WEEK too short to qualify as full time studies, so therefor they refused to give me full payment. I've been living on 5.000:- SKR/month for 6 months, which is actually 2.000:- SKR BELOW what the state considers to be the minimum monthly income for survival. And, now in April, I'm only going to get about half of that. 2.500:- SKR won't cover my rent, let alone food and bills.

Then she fired off Genius Question No 2: "One usually plans ahead and make a budget when one is going to study instead of work. Haven't you put any money aside for a situation like this?"
"Sweetheart," I said, "I make LESS than minimum income - how the FUCK am I supposed to put money aside?"

She let out an embarrassed giggle, and said she meant if I had put aside money BEFORE I started studying. Before I started studying? As in, the 2+ years that I've been unemployed and lived on social security? The clever girl then asked if I by any chance had had a part time job while I was studying? I wanted to counter by asking if she had ever done any full time studies in her life, but took a deep breath and just said no, I hadn't had any job.

She booked a meeting for me for next week, but added that my situation looked pretty hopeless. Earlier, they had this rule that if you were a student, you had to apply for a maximum amount loan from CSN, and put yourself in debt, and only if CSN refused to lend you money, then you could get social security. Now, they have changed those rules, so that if you're a student, you can't get any help at all, not even if CSN doesn't give you anything! According to these new rules, I have no right to get financial aid until the 17th of April, when my school is over. IF I get any help, they will count only the expenses I have from 17th to 30th of April. However, they WILL count all the income I get PRIOR to April 17th.
Don't you just love the system?

"OK," I said. "So, if I would get enough money - not very likely, but lets suppose I do - to pay my rent in time -and that has to be done no later than March 31st - then what do you suggest I live on for the next two weeks..?"
"That's something you'll have to discuss at the meeting next week."

She has a job. I don't.

When my emotions catch up with me, I'll cry about this. Right now, I just feel numb.

Mum suggested that I'd write down all the bloopers and dumbass questions and comments I hear from Authority Figures, and make it a book.

Would you mind helping me? Could you share some stories like the one above, and let me publish them, so I won't have to go through mornings like this one for the rest of my life? And so you won't have to hear me bitch and whine about my bad economy all the time?
 
I may have been sarcastic on another thread - but I hear you!!!! :) But my words are true - the more bullshit you can sputter, the more idiots believe it, and the better the job - hey I worked in POLITICS for christ sake. I'm in the know :)
 
Svenska-mou, when I was first a single mom and my sons were toddlers I sometimes did not have enough money for food. The first time I had to do taxes by myself was a nightmare. I owed what seemed to me like the national debt. I went to the IRS office in downtown Oakland with forms filled out illustrating to the penny my income and budget needs. I was strict and conservative and listed the very minimum of living requirements (utilities, food, clothes for the children only, gas for the car). I had been instructed to fill the forms out in pencil.

The clerk looked at my budget, took an eraser and changed my figures so that my monthly tax payment was tripled. I simply walked out of the office and stood in the hallway trembling in silence, unable to move.

Of course within the week the IRS garnished my wages, leaving me about 20% to live on for a few months. To this day I cannot recall how I managed, I only remember that day and the pencil eraser on the paper.

Kisses to you, wish I could give you more than a sad story,

Perdita :heart:
 
P, I would have loved to see your story end with "and then I shoved that pencil up his ass".:heart:
 
I know it's an old one, but I'm certain it's true:

Q: You say your marrige is ended?
A: Yes.
Q: How was it ended?
A: By death.
Q: Whose death?
 
Government systems and workers are priceless. In my days of divorced, single parenthood, I had an alcoholic ex-husband who not only never bothered seeing or contacting his children, but didn't pay what the government body in charge of collecting payments had ruled he had to toward their care.....and this was after a court case I was forced to go through by another government body to receive financial help for myself and the children on the grounds I had done what I could to obtain support from him...he didn't pay a cent in fact.

The government body in charge of such things went through asking me if I thought I could put my children in the car (because I didn't have a babysitter or money to pay one) at 2 am and drive 200 kms and sit in wait in the dark, for as many nights as it took, to catch him going to the job they knew he had (but could not invade his privacy by checking tax records, which their own department was part of the tax office). They thought I could follow him to where he was working and then tell them. They also knew he was falsely claiming unemployment payments while working but couldn't do anything about that unless someone from the public informed on him!!!

After some time passed, and he owed me money in the 5 figure sum, they called me to ask if I might be interested in signing papers absolving him from having to pay the amount owed, or any further payments, if he was found. When I asked why I would want to do that, even though I never thought I would see the money, their reasoning was I would feel better if I did that and released them from having to keep him on their records for tracking and retrieving monies owed....and of course as the worker reckoned, he might then feel better and decide to pay up of his own free will if I just gave him the chance. Of course she could not provide me with how I would get by after that as I would then be forced by the social security department to repay all money I had received from them as I was by absolving him, not acting responsibly to obtain financial aid for my children and fulfiling government requirements in relation to qualification for assistance.

Catalina :rose:
 
That's so sweet, catalina. Reminds me of my junior high school principal, when I finally, after 2 years of harassing from my classmates, broke down and cried and asked i I could be transferred to another class, a class where I had 3 friends already. She tried to encourage me to stay in my first class, to "try to influence my classmates into becoming better people".
Without bothering to criticize her for putting such a responsibility on the shoulders of a 15-year-old, instead of doing something about it herself, which was her job - I just pointed out that since they hadn't ben influenced in any positive way by my presence in their class for the past two years, then why would they do so now?

Just a matter of trying to escape taking responsibility, and of trying to hide their own incompetence by begging the victim to shut up.

Authorities rock.:rolleyes:
 
OK, 'fess up! Which one of you said a prayer/read a good luck spell/sent me a positive energy ball yesterday?

The CSN has paid me for a whole month after all, and this afternoon... no, I don't want to jinx it. I'll tell you on Monday.

I hurried to pay the rent as soon as I discovered I had money in my bank account. Atleast I've got that taken cared of. *exhales*

Thank you, whoever did it.:heart:
 
I'm sorry you're going through such suckage, but glad you got a break. If I think of any good stories I'll send 'em to you.
 
Hey sweets, you must have good Kharma.

I remember going through the beauracratic asshole dance with the welfare office when I was pregnant with my second child.
I figured, "Hey, I've been working for years and supporting others in need, now it's my turn." Then reality reared it's ugly head.
While looking around at the other carnival freaks sitting there, I thought, "This should be easy enough, I'm still working but all I need is a little help for the next few months tops."
Wrong! I had the case worker who could only dream of the day when she recieved the one brain cell. My first clue should have been when I noticed hers was the only desk without a computer, I think she had an abacus in her desk drawer.
Needless to say the expierence has left me bitter and I'm looking at the situation again today. I'm am leaving my job to help take care of my elderly parents and my insurance is sucking the life out of me. I may have to swallow my pride and go back to seek assistance. I'm not looking for a handout, just a little help and I know there are others in worse situations than mine. I just don't think I have the strength to endure the mind numbing dealings of State workers who seem to forget that cases involve individuals and not numbers.
I am pleased that things worked out for you! :rose:
 
Social security shouldn't be seen as a hand-out, but as a return of all the favours you've done, do, or will do, for your country all your life.
 
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