Could Bill Clinton or The Traitor be the Hildabeast's running mate?

[miles]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Either of them would create a huge Democrat voter turnout.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Either of them would create a huge Democrat voter turnout.

Do they even live together anymore?

 

[lovecraft68]

After the Big Short Bill might not be so popular

 

[miles]

Do they even live together anymore?

A legendary marriage of convenience.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

I think it would be interesting if only to test the constitutionality of the whole thing. If allowed it would really change almost every presidential race from now on.
Not sure who "the traitor" is but considering the source I'll assume Obama and the above would still apply.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Even if there isn't technically a rule against it (as far as I can tell there isn't) it's certainly against the spirit of the law. So it would be a huge shock to most of us they did. I doubt the Obamas really want to go through another four years of this crap anyway.

Besides if Hillary wants to turn out grabbing either Sanders or Warren would be the money move anyway.

Bill would probably end up backfiring quickly actually, I mean it would functionally be the King and Queen of America as opposed to the President and the woman who sleeps with him. When part of her poor imaging comes from the concept that she's part of a dynasty that would be a supremely stupid move on it's face.

But then again nothing ever surprises miles.

 

[Wrong Element]

Even if there isn't technically a rule against it (as far as I can tell there isn't) it's certainly against the spirit of the law. So it would be a huge shock to most of us they did. I doubt the Obamas really want to go through another four years of this crap anyway.

Yeah, contrary to what miles said -- reality is usually contrary to what miles says -- the controversy over doing something like this would obviously outweigh any potential political benefit.

The 12th Amendment says flat out that if you're ineligible to be president, you're also ineligible to be vice-president. I don't believe that has ever been superseded by any subsequent amendment, though the courts have never ruled on the question of whether a two-term ex-president could then become the veep. But that takes us back to the question of why any candidate for president would go through the trouble. Hillary names Obama as VP, and right away we're awaiting a federal court ruling on whether it's even allowed. It would never happen.

BUT: there's no limit on how many terms someone can serve as vice-president. It's not going to happen, but Hillary could do worse than just asking Biden to stay on.

 

[ReadyMike]

Yeah, contrary to what miles said -- reality is usually contrary to what miles says -- the controversy over doing something like this would obviously outweigh any potential political benefit.

The 12th Amendment says flat out that if you're ineligible to be president, you're also ineligible to be vice-president. I don't believe that has ever been superseded by any subsequent amendment, though the courts have never ruled on the question of whether a two-term ex-president could then become the veep. But that takes us back to the question of why any candidate for president would go through the trouble. Hillary names Obama as VP, and right away we're awaiting a federal court ruling on whether it's even allowed. It would never happen.

BUT: there's no limit on how many terms someone can serve as vice-president. It's not going to happen, but Hillary could do worse than just asking Biden to stay on.

Thank you, I was losing my mind reading this thread! How does an algebra teacher know more about the Constitution than Fox News viewers?

 

[bronzeage]

With the current line up of GOP candidates, a strong Democratic turn out is pretty much a given.

The Republican problem will be keeping an ultra-right wing 3rd party candidate from handing the election to whoever the Democrats send out.

 

[miles]

Where in the Constitution does it specifically say that a two term President is ineligible to be Vice President?

I'll wait.

 

[bronzeage]

Where in the Constitution does it specifically say that a two term President is ineligible to be Vice President?

I'll wait.

While you're waiting, ponder the question of what would be the point of having a Vice President who is Constitutionally prohibited from taking the Office of the President.

I'm not going to wait.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

Where in the Constitution does it specifically say that a two term President is ineligible to be Vice President?

I'll wait.

It does not list requirements for VP but it does say the VP has to be eligible to be President. It does specifically limit who can be President but from what I've read over the years the sticking point is the word "elected." Ultimately the Supreme Court would probably have the say and who knows how that might go.

 

[miles]

While you're waiting, ponder the question of what would be the point of having a Vice President who is Constitutionally prohibited from taking the Office of the President.

I'm not going to wait.

Which Constitution are you talking about?
.
Certainly not the one that prohibits someone from being elected for a third term.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

While you're waiting, ponder the question of what would be the point of having a Vice President who is Constitutionally prohibited from taking the Office of the President.

I'm not going to wait.

It says a person can't be elected to the office more than twice. It does not say they can't assume office due to any other factors. Most take that to mean that they simply can't but it has never been tested.

 

[miles]

It says a person can't be elected to the office more than twice. It does not say they can't assume office due to any other factors. Most take that to mean that they simply can't but it has never been tested.

You mean contrary to what Wrong Element said?

Say it ain't so!

 

[miles]

So who is this eight grade teacher?

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

You mean contrary to what Wrong Element said?

Say it ain't so!

I did not say anyone was right or wrong. It's a situation that has never come up so so far nobody is right or wrong.

 

[Disgustipated]

You mean contrary to what Wrong Element said?

Say it ain't so!

He also said the controversy would outweigh the benefits - which was his point, moron.

 

[miles]

I did not say anyone was right or wrong. It's a situation that has never come up so so far nobody is right or wrong.

You were right whether you know it or not. The key word is elected.

Maybe bronze was thinking of the Cajun Constitution.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

He also said the controversy would outweigh the benefits - which was his point, moron.

And which is probably correct but again that hasn't been tested either. I tend to agree with it being a dumb move but I also said Trump running was a dumb move.

 

[miles]

And which is probably correct but again that hasn't been tested either. I tend to agree with it being a dumb move but I also said Trump running was a dumb move.

Obama has already proven he doesn't give a damn about the Constitution.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

Obama has already proven he doesn't give a damn about the Constitution.

Honestly, that's been said about damn near every President since Washington. It's a silly statement.
And it really doesn't matter what he cares about. It's not something he could skate around.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Where in the Constitution does it specifically say that a two term President is ineligible to be Vice President?

I'll wait.

It doesn't. There is of course the possibility that you cannot because you are ineligible to run for president. At the very least it would be challenged and brought to court. The time and energy wasted on that would outweigh any possible benefit but as far as anybody can tell it's not against the letter of the law. Just the spirit.

It says a person can't be elected to the office more than twice. It does not say they can't assume office due to any other factors. Most take that to mean that they simply can't but it has never been tested.

Well the hitch is unless your entire plan was to abuse the rule why would you? The VP position is kinda pointless in the grand scheme of things, possibly even detrimental. I don't for a second believe that Obama should have been impeached but I remember many righties saying that there really wasn't a point if Biden gets to take the reigns. But aside from being second in charge not that anybody cares the point of taking the VP is to be first inline for Prez at the end. A 2 term Pres stepping into the VP seat. . .WHY? I mean if it were me I'd flat out run Obamagirl for President with the understanding that she'd take Obama as her Veep, take the oath on the 1/20/17, throw a party, step down.

Realistically though I don't think that would stand.

 

[RoryN]

Hillary's unofficial running mate is Trump.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

Hillary's unofficial running mate is Trump.

Unfortunately I think this is true. Two awful people unwittingly helping each other out and Trump is probably the one who's going to lose although I don't think it matters much. Both will make terrible Presidents.