Cops posing as prostitutes is entrapment

[BlackSnake]

A female officer dress in provocative clothing, making eye contact with men in cars and passing on the street in a suggestive manner is entrapment.

It is entrapment, because had the officer not put herself in the path of the men in a manner to catch their attention and act in a provocative manner, the men would not have been lured into the attempt to commit a crime.

This should be outlawed! The police are creating a situation for a crime to be commited.

 

[Honey123]

A female officer dress in provocative clothing, making eye contact with men in cars and passing on the street in a suggestive manner is entrapment.

It is entrapment, because had the officer not put herself in the path of the men in a manner to catch their attention and act in a provocative manner, the men would not have been lured into the attempt to commit a crime.

This should be outlawed! The police are creating a situation for a crime to be commited.

Next time, ask to see the prostitute's badge, Babe, before you ask to see her tits!!!

 

[BlackSnake]

Next time, ask to see the prostitute's badge, Babe, before you ask to see her tits!!!

lol...it was on TV. I think the guy they showed got a raw deal. She was throwing herself at him. Grant it that he should have known the role she was playing, but the guy clearly didn't want to pay for sex, and he told her that. He was trying to get it free and was flirting with him, big time. He finally asked her how much and the other cops moved in.

That's screwed....

 

[Honey123]

lol...it was on TV. I think the guy they showed got a raw deal. She was throwing herself at him. Grant it that he should have known the role she was playing, but the guy clearly didn't want to pay for sex, and he told her that. He was trying to get it free and was flirting with him, big time. He finally asked her how much and the other cops moved in.

That's screwed....

Well, he played into it, that's sure...but, he was still going to pay for it, which is illegal.

But, she also had to act like a prostitute to get the "deal" made. So, I guess it's a Catch-22.

So -- it was on TV...and not a "friend'???

 

[R. Richard]

The law is that there is no prostitution UNTIL someone mentions money. In the downtown area where I live it is not all that uncommon for a prospective john and a 'ho' to talk back and forth for a while, each waiting for the other to make the first mention of money. The first one who mentions money risks arrest.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

A female officer dress in provocative clothing, making eye contact with men in cars and passing on the street in a suggestive manner is entrapment.

It is entrapment, because had the officer not put herself in the path of the men in a manner to catch their attention and act in a provocative manner, the men would not have been lured into the attempt to commit a crime.

This should be outlawed! The police are creating a situation for a crime to be commited.

My first word is I don't thik prostituion should be illegal.

As far as your example though, by your logic any undercover activity by the plice is entrapment then, from posing as senior citizens to bust auto repair places that are screwing old folks, to posing as a dealer/supplier/buyer to bust drug rings to posing as fanatic islamacists ti infiltrate and break up terrorist cells to posing as a heavy hitter to bust organized crime rings.

You kinda have to look at the bigger picture. Two members of the Russian mob were busted by undercover agents trying to smuggle a boatload of soviet made Ak-47's into the country. Can you imagine gang wars where they aren't using saturday noght specials but full auto russian surplus? Do you think those two Russinas would have dicussed that shipment with a pair of officers in their pretty blue uniforms?

You live in hotlanta snake. Can you imagine a turf war where the idotsinvolved are using assault rifles? Not even American knock offs of the M-16 that have been customized either, we're talking 7.62 rounds flying. I've seen neightborhoods in Atlanta wehre a 7.62 would go through two or three houses before it comes to rest. Can you imagine th carnage of a boatload of those ending up in the hands of gnag members with no idea of shooting beyond LOS? nad no fire discipline?

So Brother Baker, pillar of the community and spokesman for the local Kiwanis club ends up cooling his heels down at the station house cause he let thelittle head do the thinking. Sucks to be him and I'm sure it sucks to be the target of any sting operation. But if the cost o keeping Brother baker a pillar of the community is letting nuts go because the cops aren't allowed to go undercover, I gotta say I find the second option a lot more disturbing.

 

[BlackSnake]

Well, he played into it, that's sure...but, he was still going to pay for it, which is illegal.

But, she also had to act like a prostitute to get the "deal" made. So, I guess it's a Catch-22.

So -- it was on TV...and not a "friend'???

no friend...he could have been a friend if I knew him. He looked like someone I'd be friends with...lol

 

[R. Richard]

I agree with Colly that prostitution should not be illegal. However, I believe that street prostitution should be illegal.

Prostitution conducted in a clean, safe brothel is just another business that serves a need and can be policed and taxed. Street prostitution is basically a crime and the 'ho's are the principal victims. With the current state of disease, street prostitution is very close to manslaughter.

 

[SeaCat]

Good question.

A better question, is sex for hire something to be ashamed of or illegal. If so why?

If you can answer that question then you come to the root of the problem.

Cat

 

[R. Richard]

Good question.

A better question, is sex for hire something to be ashamed of or illegal. If so why?

If you can answer that question then you come to the root of the problem.

Cat

If a person suffers an injury of certain types, professional massage therapy is sometimes prescribed. Properly applied, the professional massage therapy can aid in the recovery process. The foregoing is well known and widely accepted.

Why should professional sex therapy be any different?

 

[SeaCat]

If a person suffers an injury of certain types, professional massage therapy is sometimes prescribed. Properly applied, the professional massage therapy can aid in the recovery process. The foregoing is well known and widely accepted.

Why should professional sex therapy be any different?

Again I pose my question.

Cat

 

[JRaven]

I think anti-prostitution laws should be declared unconstitutional. It forces women to render services for free. It's no different than requiring retail stores to give their products away for free.

It is NOT like the drug trade where the product is illegal. It's perfectly okay for SeaCat and I to have sex. But if I pay him for the pleasure, then we've broken the law.

They could still outlaw street prostitution. They regulate the sale of alcohol by the drink. Street venders sell everything from t-shirts to hot dogs. But I don't think there's a city in America (except maybe New Orleans during Mardi Gras) where you can legally get a bourbon and coke from a street vender.

My 69 cents worth...

Jenny

 

[elsol]

*burp*

Yeah... been tagged by that one too.

But the cops are always the fucking cutest hookers... you'd think I'd learn.

*sigh*

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Boxlicker101]

Good question.

A better question, is sex for hire something to be ashamed of or illegal. If so why?

If you can answer that question then you come to the root of the problem.

Cat

I also think it should not be illegal, and I don't know why it is. I have some theories, though. I have paid for sex many times, both legally and illegally. It's not something I am ashamed of, or I wouldn't be mentioning it, but it's also something I'm not proud of. It's just something I have done.

 

[scheherazade_79]

You see, this is where I think the Netherlands have the right idea. According to legend it's the oldest profession in the book, so what makes governments think that by banning it they can stamp it out altogether? Why not just provide somewhere safe for the prostitutes to work from and offer them free health checks and a trade union so that they're not so exploited?

I'm probably going to be shouted down for this next point, but I'll say it anyway:

There are a lot of guys out there with crazy sex drives. Evidently it's not always possible to find a consenting female, which is why we have such things as prostitutes in the first place. If you take away the prostitutes, what's going to happen to rape figures?

 

[TheEarl]

You see, this is where I think the Netherlands have the right idea. According to legend it's the oldest profession in the book, so what makes governments think that by banning it they can stamp it out altogether? Why not just provide somewhere safe for the prostitutes to work from and offer them free health checks and a trade union so that they're not so exploited?

I'm probably going to be shouted down for this next point, but I'll say it anyway:

There are a lot of guys out there with crazy sex drives. Evidently it's not always possible to find a consenting female, which is why we have such things as prostitutes in the first place. If you take away the prostitutes, what's going to happen to rape figures?

I was just trying to remember the UK's laws on this. It's illegal to street-walk and I believe it's illegal to pimp. However, I'm fairly certain that prostitution itself is not illegal. You just can't advertise, or push.

Another weird law, brought to you courtesy of the UK.

And I agree with Scheh on the last point.

The Earl

 

[hugo_sam]

You see, this is where I think the Netherlands have the right idea. According to legend it's the oldest profession in the book, so what makes governments think that by banning it they can stamp it out altogether? Why not just provide somewhere safe for the prostitutes to work from and offer them free health checks and a trade union so that they're not so exploited?

I'm probably going to be shouted down for this next point, but I'll say it anyway:

There are a lot of guys out there with crazy sex drives. Evidently it's not always possible to find a consenting female, which is why we have such things as prostitutes in the first place. If you take away the prostitutes, what's going to happen to rape figures?

I thoroughly agree with Scheher,
The criminalization of prostitution is just a futile attempt to control people and impose the slanted fringe opinion of a minority on the whole. It serves no public function other than policing according to someones warped views. Save the money and put it into education and health care. Better uses.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You see, this is where I think the Netherlands have the right idea. According to legend it's the oldest profession in the book, so what makes governments think that by banning it they can stamp it out altogether? Why not just provide somewhere safe for the prostitutes to work from and offer them free health checks and a trade union so that they're not so exploited?

I'm probably going to be shouted down for this next point, but I'll say it anyway:

There are a lot of guys out there with crazy sex drives. Evidently it's not always possible to find a consenting female, which is why we have such things as prostitutes in the first place. If you take away the prostitutes, what's going to happen to rape figures?

I agree that prostitution should be legal but with some restrictions as to where it could be done. Legal brothels okay, and working in one's home, okay, Outcalls to a hotel, okay, but not out in the street or cruising bars, etc. I also agree with frequent health checks for VD and HIV. I don't see why the taxpayers should provide a place for them to work, though. As for a trade union, that would have to be something they could work out themselves. The exploitation now is mostly by pimps or cops and if it were legal, that would stop.

I don't think the rape figures would change much, at least not rape by a stranger. That is well known to be a crime of violence, with the sex being incidental. Date rape would probably decrease. Women would stop stringing men along and suddenly telling him to stop, because they would know he had an alternative. Prick-teasers like that would find themselves sitting home alone quite a lot because the men who would have been in their lives would go to a sure thing. Horny guys would stop forcing their girl friends to do something she didn't want to do, because they could get the same thing at the corner brothel.

There could be male prostitutes also but I don't know how that would work out.

 

[Guest]

My first word is I don't thik prostituion should be illegal.

agreed.
we are too damn high and mighty.
but is an undercover cop posing as a prostitute entrapment? no, i dont believe so. if you can say that it is, then you might have to take a different look at how speeders are caught on the highway, ect....

 

[woodnymph_O]

If I remember correctly laws against prostitution in the US are a state by state basis,Don't they have legal houses in Nevada?

 

[R. Richard]

If I remember correctly laws against prostitution in the US are a state by state basis,Don't they have legal houses in Nevada?

They do have legal houses in Nevada. You can read my article, titled Nevada Brothels, on them.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

If I remember correctly laws against prostitution in the US are a state by state basis,Don't they have legal houses in Nevada?

Yep, the Moonlight Bunny Ranch is in Nevada. There's a show on HBO that documents it.

 

[R. Richard]

Yep, the Moonlight Bunny Ranch is in Nevada. There's a show on HBO that documents it.

I don't have HBO. However a TV documentary is not sufficient to truly experience the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. No, the concerned investigator needs to actually make a visit to the establishment. The Moonlight Bunny Ranch is generaly considered to be the top of the line in Nevada whorehouse. However the Wild Horse Resort and Spa is considered to be a top contender.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't have HBO. However a TV documentary is not sufficient to truly experience the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. No, the concerned investigator needs to actually make a visit to the establishment. The Moonlight Bunny Ranch is generaly considered to be the top of the line in Nevada whorehouse. However the Wild Horse Resort and Spa is considered to be a top contender.

I've never been to either of those. I visited the Mustang Ranch a few times, many years ago. It actually had its own offramp from Highway 80.

 

[R. Richard]

I've never been to either of those. I visited the Mustang Ranch a few times, many years ago. It actually had its own offramp from Highway 80.

The Mustang Ranch, as such, is no more. The owner, Joe Conforte, had some tax problems with the US government, closed the place and went (some said) to Brazil.