Consumer protection laws is teh communism, y'all

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The private market has failed to provide any relief for customers who are stranded by delayed flights. The Government has stepped in.

Oh my God.

This could mean the Government becomes responsible for customers not being stranded on delayed planes for long hours. It's the end of the world. Communists are taking over. Airline companies will go out of business right and left until no plane is left to fly the friendly skies. Fewer instances of passengers having to sleep over at hotels on their own dime. Republicans won't be able to molest young boys on airplanes. Won't somebody think of the hotel managers and poor put upon airline execs! Airlines being forced to give timely and accurate information about delayed flights - oh, the humanity! And of all the outrages, they want to ensure passengers get food, water and clean bathrooms when stranded on the tarmac! Since when have consumers had any rights?

They have the right to give airlines their money and they have the right to accept whatever treatment they get!

Come on, guys, tell them liberals off, this a friggin outrage! It's the end of the world, dude. The sky is falling and shit.




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070920...l&printer=1;_ylt=AjDT.mH6P7qNYlczuc6d2.WMwfIE

House moves to protect air passengers

By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer

Thu Sep 20, 2:36 PM ET

Airlines and airports would have to come up with plans to provide passengers stranded by long delays with food, water and other basic amenities under an aviation bill approved by the House Thursday.

The legislation also demands that plans be drawn up to allow passengers to deplane following excessive delays and makes clear that the Transportation Department can levy civil penalties against a carrier or airport that doesn't adhere to contingency arrangements.

"These provisions are going to set a standard that will ensure that the flying public will be treated appropriately when they experience delays," said Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., who promoted the passenger bill of rights.

The $68 billion bill to finance Federal Aviation Administration operations and invest in airport improvements over the next four years passed 267-151. The Senate is working on similar legislation as the current FAA act heads for expiration at the end of this month.

The White House issued a veto threat for the House bill, saying it "falls far short" of administration proposals put forth early this year to reduce delays by modernizing the air traffic control system. The White House also objected to the bill's intent to raise aviation fuel taxes as a means to pay for new investment.

The measure would increase the jet fuel tax for noncommercial planes from 21.8 cents per gallon to 30.7 cents and the aviation gasoline tax from 19.3 cents to 24.1 cents. It would also raise the cap on fees airports can charge passengers for capital improvements from $4.50 a flight to $7.

But lawmakers, among the nation's legions of frequent fliers, were particularly interested in aspects of the bill dealing with airport congestion and delays.

Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., whose committee signed off on the tax measures, said there wasn't anyone from either party who "didn't believe that this was our time to tell these aviation people that we passengers were suffering in such a way that we were going to express it through the tax system. People on the tarmac for three, four, five hours. Flights being canceled, weather conditions we never heard of, overcrowding."

The bill specifies that carriers and large and medium hub airports must file emergency contingency plans detailing food, water, restroom facilities, cabin ventilation and medical treatment for passengers aboard aircraft. The water must meet standards of the Safe Drinking Water Act. Another provision would require a carrier to disclose to passengers if an insecticide has been applied to the cabin interior within the past 60 days.

An amendment by Rep. Ron Klein, D-Fla., orders the secretary of Transportation to investigate consumer complaints in such areas as flight cancellations, overbooking, lost baggage or incorrect fare information.

The bill addresses noise and congestion issues by committing $13 billion, $1 billion more than the administration request, for air traffic control improvements and the satellite-based Next Generation Air Transportation System.

It requires the FAA to begin schedule reduction meetings if aircraft operations exceed hourly maximum arrival and departure rules and sets up a pilot program at five airports to develop and test new air traffic flow management technologies.

Among other provisions, the bill:

_Allows pilots who now must retire at age 60 to fly until age 65 under certain conditions.

_Requires all civil subsonic jets under 75,000 pounds to meet tougher noise level standards within five years.

_Increases the number of aviation safety and runway inspectors.

_Tightens security at overseas repair stations.

Republicans, including Transportation Committee ranking member John Mica, R-Fla., voted against the bill to show opposition to a provision that reopens a disputed contract with air traffic controllers imposed by the FAA last year, returns to the terms of the previous 1998 contract and provides back pay to controllers. Mica said this would add $1.9 billion to the cost of the bill.

Republicans also objected to language that would allow drivers and package handlers at express companies, specifically Federal Express, to organize under the National Labor Relations Act. Because FedEx was organized as an airline, its drivers and package handlers are covered by the Railway Labor Act and can only organize for collective bargaining on a national basis.

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The bill is H.R. 2881

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On the Net:

Congress: http://thomas.loc.gov/
 
LovingTongue said:
Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., whose committee signed off on the tax measures, said there wasn't anyone from either party who "didn't believe that this was our time to tell these aviation people that we passengers were suffering in such a way that we were going to express it through the tax system. People on the tarmac for three, four, five hours. Flights being canceled, weather conditions we never heard of, overcrowding."


Gotta love Charlie Rangel, he can talk bullshit better than anyone I know and people believe him. Maybe the government should just nationalize the airline industry. :rolleyes:
 
Who gives a crap about delayed flights..why not go over price gouging in the oil industry...oh yeah big oil funds both dimwits and ripoffs...
 
PannieMonster said:
Gotta love Charlie Rangel, he can talk bullshit better than anyone I know and people believe him. Maybe the government should just nationalize the airline industry. :rolleyes:
*grin*... When I read Rangel's name. I immediately thought "bullshit". Rangel makes Al Sharpton (A world class bullshitter) look like a rank amateur.
 
garbage can said:
*grin*... When I read Rangel's name. I immediately thought "bullshit". Rangel makes Al Sharpton (A world class bullshitter) look like a rank amateur.
The only difference is, when the right Rev. Al Sharpton bullshits people, you know he's bullshitting. He can't bullshit without cracking a shit eating grin.
 
PannieMonster said:
Gotta love Charlie Rangel, he can talk bullshit better than anyone I know and people believe him. Maybe the government should just nationalize the airline industry. :rolleyes:
You tell 'em, tex. We oughta take the Government completely out of the airline industry. Longer delays mean we can start selling bathroom access on stranded airplanes. Won't somebody think of the profits.
 
LovingTongue said:
You tell 'em, tex. We oughta take the Government completely out of the airline industry. Longer delays mean we can start selling bathroom access on stranded airplanes. Won't somebody think of the profits.


They'll have the airlines booking hotel accomodations for every "victim" of flights delayed longer than 3 hours all of which will be funded by our tax dollars, but hey, it's all for a good purpose.
 
If I studied all my life, I couldn't think up half the number of funny things passed in one session of congress.
~Will Rogers
 
PannieMonster said:
They'll have the airlines booking hotel accomodations for every "victim" of flights delayed longer than 3 hours all of which will be funded by our tax dollars, but hey, it's all for a good purpose.
Our tax dollars? How so? The airlines will be footing that bill.

You're grasping now.
 
LovingTongue said:
Our tax dollars? How so? The airlines will be footing that bill.

You're grasping now.


Don't bet on it. If the government passes a law, you can rest assured they will also collect a tax to enforce it and fund the results of it.
 
PannieMonster said:
Don't bet on it. If the government passes a law, you can rest assured they will also collect a tax to enforce it and fund the results of it.
Wrong.

HIPAA.
 
PannieMonster said:
Your tax dollars still fund that. Don't kid yourself. You just don't see it itemized, but you can bet it is in the budget.
There is a copper dragon on your shoulder, did you know that?
 
LovingTongue said:
There is a copper dragon on your shoulder, did you know that?
That's only because the government hasn't asked for their share of that copper dragon yet, but come April 15th, they will.
 
PannieMonster said:
That's only because the government hasn't asked for their share of that copper dragon yet, but come April 15th, they will.
Why don't you move to a country where there are no taxes? :confused:

Oops, I killed my own thread. :(
 
LovingTongue said:
Why don't you move to a country where there are no taxes? :confused:

Oops, I killed my own thread. :(


Oh, I don't mind paying taxes for things that are necessary. I just think that our government wastes a lot of money for things we don't need.

Besides, I'd have to buy an Island in the South Pacific, declare myself a sovereign nation and then ask for millions in foreign aid from the U.S. Hmmmm.... now there's a plan.
 
PannieMonster said:
Oh, I don't mind paying taxes for things that are necessary. I just think that our government wastes a lot of money for things we don't need.

Besides, I'd have to buy an Island in the South Pacific, declare myself a sovereign nation and then ask for millions in foreign aid from the U.S. Hmmmm.... now there's a plan.
Nah, better not. If you do, they'll want to set up an embassy, followed by a military base to protect it. Then come the terrorist attacks.
 
PannieMonster said:
Oh, I don't mind paying taxes for things that are necessary. I just think that our government wastes a lot of money for things we don't need.

Besides, I'd have to buy an Island in the South Pacific, declare myself a sovereign nation and then ask for millions in foreign aid from the U.S. Hmmmm.... now there's a plan.
Okay. Well when you find me that hidden tax behind the plan to get airline companies to reimburse me for being stuck on a delayed flight, then please by all means get back to me.
 
phrodeau said:
Nah, better not. If you do, they'll want to set up an embassy, followed by a military base to protect it. Then come the terrorist attacks.


Well, I could always declare war on the U.S., then ask for billions in war reparations. :rolleyes:
 
LovingTongue said:
Okay. Well when you find me that hidden tax behind the plan to get airline companies to reimburse me for being stuck on a delayed flight, then please by all means get back to me.

Reimburse you for being stuck on a delayed flight? No, the airlines will have to do that. How long do you think this law will work before the airlines will have to go belly up and the government will have to bail them out again? ;)
 
PannieMonster said:
Reimburse you for being stuck on a delayed flight? No, the airlines will have to do that. How long do you think this law will work before the airlines will have to go belly up and the government will have to bail them out again? ;)
Well, you're free to leave America and go to a country where airlines are free to leave you sitting on the tarmac for hours on end.

Good luck with that.

Oh no wait, you'd rather whine about it. Sillyme.
 
LovingTongue said:
Well, you're free to leave America and go to a country where airlines are free to leave you sitting on the tarmac for hours on end.

Good luck with that.

Oh no wait, you'd rather whine about it. Sillyme.


So you would rather give congress an attaboy for this? Too funny!
How much of your income can you afford to give to the government to support nonsense laws that we don't need? 80%, 90%?
 
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