Conservatives don't like women who exercise free speech

[someoneyouknow]

Someone you had probably never heard of unless you were one of the many conspiracy theorists out there who think Glenn Beck is the second coming, is suing Beck and his company for wrongful termination. Her charge? She was fired because she expressed her honest opinion.

Tomi Lahren (no, that is not a misspelling) was summarily fired after last month saying, on the air, she was pro-choice. Initially she was suspended for a week, then later received a phone call stating, "her employment was terminated" and "she would have no more shows."

Beck and company say she is still being paid to which Tomi claims they are doing so "presumably hoping they could find an exit strategy to sanitize their unlawful conduct under the Employment Contract."

Apparently if you're a conservative woman and say you're pro-choice you are persona non grata. So much for all the whining we hear from "conservatives" when Democrats supposedly turn their back on someone who doesn't toe the party line.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/07/media/tomi-lahren-glenn-beck-the-blaze-lawsuit/index.html

P.S. And yes, this being a private company, they are free to terminate an employee whenever they want or cancel a show. That is not the point.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Someone you had probably never heard of unless you were one of the many conspiracy theorists out there who think Glenn Beck is the second coming, is suing Beck and his company for wrongful termination. Her charge? She was fired because she expressed her honest opinion.

Tomi Lahren (no, that is not a misspelling) was summarily fired after last month saying, on the air, she was pro-choice. Initially she was suspended for a week, then later received a phone call stating, "her employment was terminated" and "she would have no more shows."

Beck and company say she is still being paid to which Tomi claims they are doing so "presumably hoping they could find an exit strategy to sanitize their unlawful conduct under the Employment Contract."

Apparently if you're a conservative woman and say you're pro-choice you are persona non grata. So much for all the whining we hear from "conservatives" when Democrats supposedly turn their back on someone who doesn't toe the party line.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/07/media/tomi-lahren-glenn-beck-the-blaze-lawsuit/index.html

P.S. And yes, this being a private company, they are free to terminate an employee whenever they want or cancel a show. That is not the point.

Liberals cannot stand women, especially black women, who think for themselves, rather than parroting the party line.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

The woman has been misled. Cafeteria Christianity is accepted, but what will remain firmly off the menu, is disrespecting fetus worship. That is the golden goose that will eventually bring the hoped-for Republican Domination of Everything.

(One of Christianity's main fetus defenders,has a wife that had a "therapeutic" abortion. They could afford to buy their own, so it was overlooked, I suppose.)

The Christian version of Cafeteria Feminism only offers money, to those who have more than enough.

 

[Chris_Michael]

This story just pisses me off to no end. I just cannot believed this happened. Glenn Beck is a fucking piece of shit.

I don't know what the law is regarding the situation, but it would be nice if she bankrupted his ass.

Abortion is just something conservatives need to get the fuck over. There is way more important issues at hand. And yes, I'm 100% fine with baby killing because the god of the Bible is 100% fine with murdering everybody on the fucking planet, burning them in hell, and creating an eternal North Korea for the good Christians to kiss his ass forever. So baby killing sounds reasonable comparatively. Plus, it saves money and being a goddamn conservative is about women not having kids when they can't afford them.

I'm PRO-ABORTION. I don't think the option is enough. I think we should encourage it. Do not misunderstand. I'm not saying we should force abortions. Just encourage. Why demonize a woman for sacrificing her baby because she cannot afford to raise it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

This story just pisses me off to no end. I just cannot believed this happened. Glenn Beck is a fucking piece of shit.

I don't know what the law is regarding the situation, but it would be nice if she bankrupted his ass.

Abortion is just something conservatives need to get the fuck over. There is way more important issues at hand. And yes, I'm 100% fine with baby killing because the god of the Bible is 100% fine with murdering everybody on the fucking planet, burning them in hell, and creating an eternal North Korea for the good Christians to kiss his ass forever. So baby killing sounds reasonable comparatively. Plus, it saves money and being a goddamn conservative is about women not having kids when they can't afford them.

I'm PRO-ABORTION. I don't think the option is enough. I think we should encourage it. Do not misunderstand. I'm not saying we should force abortions. Just encourage. Why demonize a woman for sacrificing her baby because she cannot afford to raise it.

A company can fire somebody for expressing views contrary to those espoused by Management.

You might be the only person I have heard about saying you are pro-abortion. I and many others are pro-choice, meaning we believe a woman or girl should have the right to have a abortion if she believes it is the best choice for her.

 

[LadyVer]

The woman has been misled. Cafeteria Christianity is accepted, but what will remain firmly off the menu, is disrespecting fetus worship. That is the golden goose that will eventually bring the hoped-for Republican Domination of Everything.

(One of Christianity's main fetus defenders,has a wife that had a "therapeutic" abortion. They could afford to buy their own, so it was overlooked, I suppose.)

The Christian version of Cafeteria Feminism only offers money, to those who have more than enough.

So, who's the ratfucker whose wife had a "therapeutic" abortion?

 

[Boxlicker101]

I believe "fetus worship" is an overstatement but, over the last fifty years or so, the fetus has become the center of a pregnancy, rather than the expectant parents. This is a good thing. Women are advised to eschew cigarettes, drinking, using drugs and other habits which were formerly more acceptable. They are also instructed on proper diet.

That's assuming they want to give birth to healthy babies.

 

[BotanyBoy]

As opposed to the left, "justice Democrats" who don't like free speech for ANYONE?

Democrat rule 1...if you don't like what's being said use violence and arson to shut them up!!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RG1yWCC8tIk/hqdefault.jpg

 

[just4friends]

As opposed to the left, "justice Democrats" who don't like free speech for ANYONE?

Democrat rule 1...if you don't like what's being said use violence and arson to shut them up!!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RG1yWCC8tIk/hqdefault.jpg

Yeah.. blame the left for anarchists.. !!!

 

[Boxlicker101]

As opposed to the left, "justice Democrats" who don't like free speech for ANYONE?

Democrat rule 1...if you don't like what's being said use violence and arson to shut them up!!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RG1yWCC8tIk/hqdefault.jpg

They like free speech for themselves and anybody who agrees with them.

Not only arson and violence, but bullhorns and other loud devices to drown out those who disagree with them.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Like racists

They like free speech for themselves and anybody who agrees with them.

Not only arson and violence, but bullhorns and other loud devices to drown out those who disagree with them.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yeah.. blame the left for anarchists.. !!!

Anarchists are the no government right wingers over in the deep end of the libertarian pool, not these thought police control freak leftist.

Like racists

Which is what they call anyone who doesn't toe their political line.

99% of the time they can actually point out any racism or sexism of any kind....like you usually do.

Shit you don't like to hear isn't racism or sexism.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

These are all "party lines" along with "Keep doing that, you're just guaranteeing Trump will win again"

You really need to shake it up. Come up with something new. Oh wait, you can't.

Which is what they call anyone who doesn't toe their political line.

99% of the time they can actually point out any racism or sexism of any kind....like you usually do.

Shit you don't like to hear isn't racism or sexism.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Like racists

Who are the racists now? Who is it that wants Jim Crow laws? It's leftists, but now they refer to segregated facilities as "Safe Spaces."

 

[Chris_Michael]

A company can fire somebody for expressing views contrary to those espoused by Management.

You might be the only person I have heard about saying you are pro-abortion. I and many others are pro-choice, meaning we believe a woman or girl should have the right to have a abortion if she believes it is the best choice for her.

Well, I'm the only real fiscal conservative here then. Christianity is a socialist religion despite conservatives being Christians. Babies cost the country way more than birth control and abortions. And god is a murderer, much more of a murderer than anybody else, even Satan.

In the end, god kills everybody and burns a vast majority of them for all eternity. So, my morals are better than his. And my logic is sound, unless you really want to argue that abortion/BC is more expensive than a baby.

So, my politics is reason and logic. I don't fall into the categories of Christian or Elite 'Murican.

And yes, businesses can do what they want. That's why I specified asking what the law was for that specific case. Maybe they did something else. Maybe she was slandered. I don't know because I don't watch the Blaze and I don't care about Glenn Beck. Notice I say "it would be nice if she bankrupted him." That means I don't think she will. I don't even necessarily know she'll win anything.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Well, I'm the only real fiscal conservative here then. Christianity is a socialist religion despite conservatives being Christians. Babies cost the country way more than birth control and abortions. And god is a murderer, much more of a murderer than anybody else, even Satan.

In the end, god kills everybody and burns a vast majority of them for all eternity. So, my morals are better than his. And my logic is sound, unless you really want to argue that abortion/BC is more expensive than a baby.

So, my politics is reason and logic. I don't fall into the categories of Christian or Elite 'Murican.

To go off on this tangent, I have yet to see any laws enacted which would make it a crime for a pregnant woman to smoke, drink excessive alcohol or do drugs, yet we keep hearing from Christians (and Republicans) the fetus is a person which is why we can't have abortion.

But poisoning the child for nine straight months is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

And yet you voted for Trump. Explain that.

Well, I'm the only real fiscal conservative here then. Christianity is a socialist religion despite conservatives being Christians. Babies cost the country way more than birth control and abortions. And god is a murderer, much more of a murderer than anybody else, even Satan.

In the end, god kills everybody and burns a vast majority of them for all eternity. So, my morals are better than his. And my logic is sound, unless you really want to argue that abortion/BC is more expensive than a baby.

So, my politics is reason and logic. I don't fall into the categories of Christian or Elite 'Murican.

And yes, businesses can do what they want. That's why I specified asking what the law was for that specific case. Maybe they did something else. Maybe she was slandered. I don't know because I don't watch the Blaze and I don't care about Glenn Beck. Notice I say "it would be nice if she bankrupted him." That means I don't think she will. I don't even necessarily know she'll win anything.

 

[Chris_Michael]

And yet you voted for Trump. Explain that.

I have a right to vote and I chose Trump. It's not hard to comprehend.

 

[Wrong Element]

Someone you had probably never heard of unless you were one of the many conspiracy theorists out there who think Glenn Beck is the second coming, is suing Beck and his company for wrongful termination. Her charge? She was fired because she expressed her honest opinion.

Tomi Lahren (no, that is not a misspelling) was summarily fired after last month saying, on the air, she was pro-choice. Initially she was suspended for a week, then later received a phone call stating, "her employment was terminated" and "she would have no more shows."

Beck and company say she is still being paid to which Tomi claims they are doing so "presumably hoping they could find an exit strategy to sanitize their unlawful conduct under the Employment Contract."

Apparently if you're a conservative woman and say you're pro-choice you are persona non grata. So much for all the whining we hear from "conservatives" when Democrats supposedly turn their back on someone who doesn't toe the party line.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/07/media/tomi-lahren-glenn-beck-the-blaze-lawsuit/index.html

P.S. And yes, this being a private company, they are free to terminate an employee whenever they want or cancel a show. That is not the point.

But if she's suing, I think that is the point.

I didn't realize that Glenn Beck and his brand were so opposed to abortion that you couldn't be a contributor to The Blaze and be pro-choice (even if you were keeping those pro-choice opinions off the site itself), but you can't be surprised that a place that traffics in political opinion tries to enforce uniformity of opinion. If I was a writer for Daily Kos and began singing the praises of Trump, I'd soon be looking for a new job.

Lahren will be fine in the long run, of course. She had a national platform before turning 25 on the basis of being female, blonde, pretty (to some), and conservative. I can think of one major news network in particular where those attributes come in handy, a network that also just happens to have lost its most prominent female face.

 

[srgreene]

Apparently if you're a conservative woman and say you're pro-choice you are persona non grata. So much for all the whining we hear from "conservatives" when Democrats supposedly turn their back on someone who doesn't toe the party line.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/07/media/tomi-lahren-glenn-beck-the-blaze-lawsuit/index.html

P.S. And yes, this being a private company, they are free to terminate an employee whenever they want or cancel a show. That is not the point.

You seem confused about the concept of free speech. Your freedom to speak does not oblige me, or anyone else, to provide you a platform from which to speak.

So I do not see any free speech issue here. Of course, if there is a violation of contract, that is an entirely different matter.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Lahren will be fine in the long run, of course. She had a national platform before turning 25 on the basis of being female, blonde, pretty (to some), and conservative. I can think of one major news network in particular where those attributes come in handy, a network that also just happens to have lost its most prominent female face.

Yes, probably. The same network which has more sexual harassment lawsuits coming to light every day. What a great place to work at if you're a woman.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/03/media/julie-roginsky-lawsuit-fox-news-roger-ailes/index.html

 

[someoneyouknow]

You seem confused about the concept of free speech. Your freedom to speak does not oblige me, or anyone else, to provide you a platform from which to speak.

So I do not see any free speech issue here. Of course, if there is a violation of contract, that is an entirely different matter.

This has nothing to do with free speech since, as I did point out, this is a private employer.

The point is the hypocrisy, once again, from Republicans, or whatever Beck is claiming to be today, about how open and accommodating they are, right up to the point where a star talking head says something, in all honesty and sincerity, which touches a third rail. Then all bets are off.

If anything, Lahren showed she is a real conservative because she doesn't believe it's the government's business to interfere in a person's personal life, especially a woman's decision whether she does or does not want to have a child. No Big Government dictating to a person what they can or can't do with their own body.

That would seem to be what Beck continually whines about yet, here we are.

 

[srgreene]

The title of this thread is:

"Conservatives don't like women who exercise free speech"

Poor choice of words if you were not trying to tie this in some way to freedom of speech. And if Beck doesn't doesn't want "pro choice" people on his show, well, so be it. No hypocrisy involved.

Say, does a fetus have any "choice" on the matter? Might his or her "choice"count at all??

I ask these questions as an adult woman who aborted her first pregnancy, when she was a teen.

 

[My I]

Ummmm.....

I'm sorry but I don't see her termination as have ANYTHING to with her being a woman OR the exercise of free speech. She was terminated because the views she expressed on company airtime did not fit the message that the company wants to project and therefore the company has EVERY right to terminate her employment.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Ummmm.....

I'm sorry but I don't see her termination as have ANYTHING to with her being a woman OR the exercise of free speech. She was terminated because the views she expressed on company airtime did not fit the message that the company wants to project and therefore the company has EVERY right to terminate her employment.

She was being a conservative. How was that not fitting the message? She doesn't believe in Big Government, particularly when it comes to person's choice what to do with their own body.

As I just said, that's the epitome of being a conservative, yet apparently that is not what is wanted from conservatives.