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KillerMuffin and Linda Evans. The man is a babe magnet.
KillerMuffin and Linda Evans. The man is a babe magnet.
CONFESSION time
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KillerMuffin
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*sigh*
You have tried the case as both the prosecutor and defendant's counsel, passed a verdict as a jury of his peers, and rendered a judgment as the judge. You have taken it upon yourself to do the entire realm of American Jurisprudence all by yourself. Now you are playing the role of an appellate court by continuing with his defense.
Everyone is responsible for his or her own actions. He is obviously an irresponsible cowardly individual, and you are, likewise, just as irreponsible and cowardly. If it was an accident, then he should have gone to the police by now. To have not done so indicates to me that the man is without conscience.
By not reporting him, you have allowed a man without conscience to get away with what may have been an accident or what may have been murder. So we now have an intelligent man with knowledge of how the law works on the loose who has no conscience and believes he can get away with killing people. Thank you, we need more people like that.
You may not care about her life, or the lives of anyone else he may have accidentally killed but didn't tell you about, or may accidentally kill in the future but won't tell you about, or even the lives of the people around you, but you do care about your life. I would also hope you would care about the state of your conscience, your honor, your responisiblity, your character, your heart, your compassion, your morality, your integrity.
You aren't choosing between life and death right now. You can't have the fear that he will kill you, after all, you said it was an accident. By allowing him to continue on his merry way enjoying a full life when there is an excruciatingly strong possiblity that he deprived a young woman of doing the same with her life, you are showing your true character. You are a coward and you have no honor.
You have sat in judgement of your friend and the life of the woman he killed. We now sit in judgement of you.
I sincerely hope this bothers you. I hope you have nightmares about it. I hope that someday you have a daughter too, and that everytime you look at your daughter you think of the mother whose daughter killed by the man you permitted to get away with it.
You must be proud.
ElaineWest said:
You have tried the case as both the prosecutor and defendant's counsel, passed a verdict as a jury of his peers, and rendered a judgment as the judge. You have taken it upon yourself to do the entire realm of American Jurisprudence all by yourself. Now you are playing the role of an appellate court by continuing with his defense.
Everyone is responsible for his or her own actions. He is obviously an irresponsible cowardly individual, and you are, likewise, just as irreponsible and cowardly. If it was an accident, then he should have gone to the police by now. To have not done so indicates to me that the man is without conscience.
By not reporting him, you have allowed a man without conscience to get away with what may have been an accident or what may have been murder. So we now have an intelligent man with knowledge of how the law works on the loose who has no conscience and believes he can get away with killing people. Thank you, we need more people like that.
You may not care about her life, or the lives of anyone else he may have accidentally killed but didn't tell you about, or may accidentally kill in the future but won't tell you about, or even the lives of the people around you, but you do care about your life. I would also hope you would care about the state of your conscience, your honor, your responisiblity, your character, your heart, your compassion, your morality, your integrity.
You aren't choosing between life and death right now. You can't have the fear that he will kill you, after all, you said it was an accident. By allowing him to continue on his merry way enjoying a full life when there is an excruciatingly strong possiblity that he deprived a young woman of doing the same with her life, you are showing your true character. You are a coward and you have no honor.
You have sat in judgement of your friend and the life of the woman he killed. We now sit in judgement of you.
I sincerely hope this bothers you. I hope you have nightmares about it. I hope that someday you have a daughter too, and that everytime you look at your daughter you think of the mother whose daughter killed by the man you permitted to get away with it.
You must be proud.
There's one thing I regret, and I realize how this is going to make me sound, but here it is.
I was 14, and my mom was dating a guy much younger than her at the time, he was about 26. She, him and I went to a community picnic with one of his friends, who was 24. Everyone but me got lousy stinking drunk, but being 14 I didn't realize what "drunk" really was. My mom, never one to hold her liquor well at all, decided to pull some stupid ass stunt, get mad at her boyfriend, and go wandering off. That left me and her boyfriend's friend alone.
So skipping a few hours, I ended up making out with this guy. We didn't have sex, for god's sake I was only 14, and I thought it was such a rush for making out with this guy 10 years older. Looking back on it, he was one sick puppy for doing that, but he was drunk, and it was a fucked up night. Really fucked up. I guess I just got caught up in it.
Well, turns out he ended up bragging about the whole thing to my mom's boyfriend, who told my mom. Now, one thing you have to understand about my mom....she hated everything, and would use any excuse in the world to take her anger against the world out on me for the slightest infraction. I knew that if I told her that it was more or less as consensual as something like that can be with a 14 year old involved, chances were good I'd end up in a body bag, or at very least the E.R. So I told her that he kept hitting on me and shit. What does she do? Directs her anger to him and called the cops. I suppose I would have to, had any of it actually happened like I said. He never really got in trouble, the cops talked to him and it was documented, but I had a choice to make. I feel bad that I had to sacrifice him to do it, but on the other hand, if he's gonna screw around with a 14 year old, no matter what his level of sobriety, maybe the scare did him some good.
I was 14, and my mom was dating a guy much younger than her at the time, he was about 26. She, him and I went to a community picnic with one of his friends, who was 24. Everyone but me got lousy stinking drunk, but being 14 I didn't realize what "drunk" really was. My mom, never one to hold her liquor well at all, decided to pull some stupid ass stunt, get mad at her boyfriend, and go wandering off. That left me and her boyfriend's friend alone.
So skipping a few hours, I ended up making out with this guy. We didn't have sex, for god's sake I was only 14, and I thought it was such a rush for making out with this guy 10 years older. Looking back on it, he was one sick puppy for doing that, but he was drunk, and it was a fucked up night. Really fucked up. I guess I just got caught up in it.
Well, turns out he ended up bragging about the whole thing to my mom's boyfriend, who told my mom. Now, one thing you have to understand about my mom....she hated everything, and would use any excuse in the world to take her anger against the world out on me for the slightest infraction. I knew that if I told her that it was more or less as consensual as something like that can be with a 14 year old involved, chances were good I'd end up in a body bag, or at very least the E.R. So I told her that he kept hitting on me and shit. What does she do? Directs her anger to him and called the cops. I suppose I would have to, had any of it actually happened like I said. He never really got in trouble, the cops talked to him and it was documented, but I had a choice to make. I feel bad that I had to sacrifice him to do it, but on the other hand, if he's gonna screw around with a 14 year old, no matter what his level of sobriety, maybe the scare did him some good.
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Elaine;
I won't argue or cuss with you, and I do not know the laws that govern you. But, I do know have a clue as to how the criminal mind works and how conviving it can be.
I work with over 1000 convicted felons 5 days a week and I can tell you, some of them 'seem' like really nice people. They don't where tags on their shirts displaying their crime, so just by their personality I have a hard time figuring out what they did. I do, however, have my computer and I use it often.
The nicest, most mannerable guy, can turn out to be a baby rapist or murderer. They thrive on 'our' generosity and compassion, using it against us.
one question for you:
If in fact the police suspected him of stalking her, or she had made reports of it, then why was he not a suspect in her death?
I won't argue or cuss with you, and I do not know the laws that govern you. But, I do know have a clue as to how the criminal mind works and how conviving it can be.
I work with over 1000 convicted felons 5 days a week and I can tell you, some of them 'seem' like really nice people. They don't where tags on their shirts displaying their crime, so just by their personality I have a hard time figuring out what they did. I do, however, have my computer and I use it often.
The nicest, most mannerable guy, can turn out to be a baby rapist or murderer. They thrive on 'our' generosity and compassion, using it against us.
one question for you:
If in fact the police suspected him of stalking her, or she had made reports of it, then why was he not a suspect in her death?
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A true sin
Mine is nothing like Elaine's (who I hope by the way didn't really enable a murder or a the least a person in need of anger management. I'm not sure who I'm afraid of more him or you. You guys could've filed complaints-had her arrested, heck sued her on "People's Court". If this is true- it's an awful situation to be in but I couldn't not do anything even if she was "an annoying bitch". Also how do you know wolfie69 isn't an investigator on the case sniffing for leads?) I hope it was all a bad joke.
I suspect you were looking for answers like this-which I fully admit probably got me a primo parking spot in hell's parking lot. I lost my virginity in a church. Not in the actual sanctuary-in front of the cross or anything. In a kind of recreational/project room area off the main sanctuary -during service. I'm still ashamed about that one. So needless to say I'm never running for public office.
I'm not Catholic so thanks for the oppt to confess. For those who are of that background-how many Hail Mary's for that kind of thing?
Wg
Mine is nothing like Elaine's (who I hope by the way didn't really enable a murder or a the least a person in need of anger management. I'm not sure who I'm afraid of more him or you. You guys could've filed complaints-had her arrested, heck sued her on "People's Court". If this is true- it's an awful situation to be in but I couldn't not do anything even if she was "an annoying bitch". Also how do you know wolfie69 isn't an investigator on the case sniffing for leads?) I hope it was all a bad joke.
I suspect you were looking for answers like this-which I fully admit probably got me a primo parking spot in hell's parking lot. I lost my virginity in a church. Not in the actual sanctuary-in front of the cross or anything. In a kind of recreational/project room area off the main sanctuary -during service. I'm still ashamed about that one. So needless to say I'm never running for public office.
I'm not Catholic so thanks for the oppt to confess. For those who are of that background-how many Hail Mary's for that kind of thing?
Wg
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Right through my heart KillerMuffin
Seriously. Of anything anyone has said to me here about the shitty thing I did, the quote about having a daughter of my own go through that(?) has to be the worst. I can not have children due to complications when I was little. Not to mention the fact that making a bad irresponsible desision when I WAS A KID(!) doesn't mean that I should go through it myself. Isn't that sort of twisted? I wouldn't wish that to happen to anyone!
I do realize that the decision I made was a bad one, fuck my ex, I fucked up too, if not just as bad as he did. Does anyone think it matters a little that I was a cocky, immature KID? I am going to have to live with what I did forever, and a lot of you are right ~ even if she was the biggest bitch she didn't deserve to die then and under those circumstances, accident or not.
You all say you would have done the morally right and law abiding thing, but please if you could put yourself in my position, CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY that you would have known and done the 'right' thing? It wasn't tv or the movies...it was my life(!)...and I was terrified.
I know sympathy is with the victim...but you all have gone out of your way to tell me I'm shit and treat me like shit. I'm still a human being too. Although I don't expect any of you to agree.
I regret telling you all my secret. I wish I could go back and change what I said to you. This was a nice, interesting, fun board...but you all made it very clear that you think I'm a peice of shit and you probably don't want me on this board. I won't bother you guys again, I'll just go along my pathetic way (as you all would probably say).
Congrats Siren, I guess you did win...does it feel good? I hope so, someone needs to feel good out of this.
Seriously. Of anything anyone has said to me here about the shitty thing I did, the quote about having a daughter of my own go through that(?) has to be the worst. I can not have children due to complications when I was little. Not to mention the fact that making a bad irresponsible desision when I WAS A KID(!) doesn't mean that I should go through it myself. Isn't that sort of twisted? I wouldn't wish that to happen to anyone!
I do realize that the decision I made was a bad one, fuck my ex, I fucked up too, if not just as bad as he did. Does anyone think it matters a little that I was a cocky, immature KID? I am going to have to live with what I did forever, and a lot of you are right ~ even if she was the biggest bitch she didn't deserve to die then and under those circumstances, accident or not.
You all say you would have done the morally right and law abiding thing, but please if you could put yourself in my position, CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY that you would have known and done the 'right' thing? It wasn't tv or the movies...it was my life(!)...and I was terrified.
I know sympathy is with the victim...but you all have gone out of your way to tell me I'm shit and treat me like shit. I'm still a human being too. Although I don't expect any of you to agree.
I regret telling you all my secret. I wish I could go back and change what I said to you. This was a nice, interesting, fun board...but you all made it very clear that you think I'm a peice of shit and you probably don't want me on this board. I won't bother you guys again, I'll just go along my pathetic way (as you all would probably say).
Congrats Siren, I guess you did win...does it feel good? I hope so, someone needs to feel good out of this.
KillerMuffin
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Right through my heart KillerMuffin
I'm sorry. I did not mean to hurt you like that. I hope your daughter, should you ever adopt one, NEVER has to go through that.
We don't think you're a piece of shit, we just think you're protecting a piece of shit. We don't understand why. We want you to do the right thing, but we can't make you do it, anymore than you can stop what has already happened.
I wish you would stay.
Once again, I'm sorry. I'm going to take whisper's advice from now on. No posting when I'm feeling emotional.
I'm sorry. I did not mean to hurt you like that. I hope your daughter, should you ever adopt one, NEVER has to go through that.
We don't think you're a piece of shit, we just think you're protecting a piece of shit. We don't understand why. We want you to do the right thing, but we can't make you do it, anymore than you can stop what has already happened.
I wish you would stay.
Once again, I'm sorry. I'm going to take whisper's advice from now on. No posting when I'm feeling emotional.
goddess_euphoria
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Well, this thread would have been a lot more interesting, (I don't want to say fun, and I can't think of a better word for it right now) if not for that accessory to murder confession. (Tell me, how do you sleep at night?) It's understandable that you were young and scared, you can't change the past, but you can decide what you do in the present. Please, turn him in.
That said, I can't think of just one thing I feel really bad about... and I don't really feel comfortable spilling, so we'll just say I think I've broken all but one of the ten commandments. (I've never killed anyone) Since I'm not really sure what all ten of them are, I can't say for sure. But I know I've got the seven deadly sins covered: gluttony, lust, greed, envy, sloth, pride, & wrath. yeah me... ugh...
That said, I can't think of just one thing I feel really bad about... and I don't really feel comfortable spilling, so we'll just say I think I've broken all but one of the ten commandments. (I've never killed anyone) Since I'm not really sure what all ten of them are, I can't say for sure. But I know I've got the seven deadly sins covered: gluttony, lust, greed, envy, sloth, pride, & wrath. yeah me... ugh...
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