Comrade Snowden

[Dribble]

You know the traitor the Right Wingers here idolize. Well he is now an official permanent Russian Citizen. Now you know who is directing all the cyber attacks and false information

 

[jaF0]

You know the traitor the Right Wingers here idolize. Well he is now an official permanent Russian Citizen. Now you know who is directing all the cyber attacks and false information

Are we talking about the same Snowden the 'w(R)ongs vilify and want to hang publicly? The Snowden that popped the top off Government wrongdoing?

I'd give the guy the fucking Medal of Honor.

 

[FescueFan]

You know the traitor the Right Wingers here idolize. Well he is now an official permanent Russian Citizen. Now you know who is directing all the cyber attacks and false information

Unhinged from reality....

 

[Dribble]

Are we talking about the same Snowden the 'w(R)ongs vilify and want to hang publicly? The Snowden that popped the top off Government wrongdoing?

I'd give the guy the fucking Medal of Honor.

I am talking about the one that stole top secret information off Govt servers and turned the info over to the Soviets prior to releasing the information for monetary gain. Of course a traitor would idolize him

 

[FescueFan]

I am talking about the one that stole top secret information off Govt servers and turned the info over to the Soviets prior to releasing the information for monetary gain. Of course a traitor would idolize him

The SOVIETS!!!

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The Soviet Union fell and stopped being a thing in 1989, Edward Snowden was 6 years old.....


Good job you fuckin' tard absolutely top notch.

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They were destroyed by the politics you promote.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

The SOVIETS!!!

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The Soviets stopped being a thing in 1989 you fucking idiot Edward Snowden was 6 years old when the Soviet Union fell.

They were destroyed by the politics you promote.

What is really funny is that people like you want to pretend that there is a significant difference between the Soviet Union and Russia

 

[FescueFan]

What is really funny is that people like you want to pretend that there is a significant difference between the Soviet Union and Russia

You mean other than their radically different government structure and economy they adopted after "progress" was given up on???

The real reason you lefties (who support soviet politics/economics) are so blind with rage at Russia??

They stopped being comrades, lurched right and started making MONEY!!! = Progressive Rage.

 

[Dribble]

What is really funny is that people like you want to pretend that there is a significant difference between the Soviet Union and Russia

Sad that he doesn't understand Putin has expanded his power to rival that of the old USSR. He is after all, a part of the old guard.

Bottom line...only traitors support and idolize traitors. Potboy is a Fascist traitor. FA is just a traitor. It is that simple.

 

[FescueFan]

Sad that he doesn't understand Putin has expanded his power to rival that of the old USSR. He is after all, a part of the old guard.

Bottom line...only traitors support and idolize traitors. Potboy is a Fascist traitor. FA is just a traitor. It is that simple.

LMFAO!!!! Jesus Christ you're delusional.

And you don't know what the term traitor or fascist mean either.

It's that simple.

 

[WillJ8787]

Yeah, they lurched Right from being taken over by a Facist Autocrat who funnels money to himself and his friends. Russia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and it's what Trump is aspiring to and what low character Repubs who have right wing envy aspire to as well. the impact on the citizens is...

No free press
Censorship of speech
People go missing or are murdered when they speak out
Pay to play(bribery is rampant)
Open relationships that are gay, bi, trans are meet with brutal force, beatings, murder, imprisonment.
Elections are not fair...Putin manipulated them.

 

[FescueFan]

Yeah, they lurched Right from being taken over by a Facist Autocrat who funnels money to himself and his friends. Russian is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and the impact on the citizens is...it's what Trump is aspiring to and what low character Repubs who have right wing envy aspire to as well.

No free press
Censorship of speech
People go missing or are murdered when they speak out
Pay to play(bribery is rampant)
Open relationship other than mysogyny one are meet with brutal force, beatings, murder, imprisonment.

Literally all Democrat behavior and policies.

That last part isn't even English, try again.

 

[Dribble]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/russian-hackers-election-data/index.html

 

[LincolnDuncan]

You mean other than their radically different government structure and economy they adopted after "progress" was given up on???

The real reason you lefties (who support soviet politics/economics) are so blind with rage at Russia??

They stopped being comrades, lurched right and started making MONEY!!! = Progressive Rage.

No, I'm talking about in the real world as far as them still having nukes and considering the west their enemy.

 

[SevMax2]

You know the traitor the Right Wingers here idolize. Well he is now an official permanent Russian Citizen. Now you know who is directing all the cyber attacks and false information

He exposed an illegal metadata program by the NSA. Hardly an act of treason. And he's not a citizen, just a resident given asylum because he can't get a fair trial here. Is Chelsea Manning a traitor? How about Daniel Ellsberg?

 

[Dribble]

He exposed an illegal metadata program by the NSA. Hardly an act of treason. And he's not a citizen, just a resident given asylum because he can't get a fair trial here. Is Chelsea Manning a traitor? How about Daniel Ellsberg?

Yes....they are. Didn't expect that answer did you? Here is the part traitors don't understand. There was other ways to expose his concerns. Instead, he stole data off a top secret server....and gave it to a foreign country FIRST, before releasing it online. Why would he do that? Because he was always working for that foreign government?

 

[SevMax2]

Yes....they are. Didn't expect that answer did you? Here is the part traitors don't understand. There was other ways to expose his concerns. Instead, he stole data off a top secret server....and gave it to a foreign country FIRST, before releasing it online. Why would he do that? Because he was always working for that foreign government?

Or maybe there isn't an adequate process for whistleblowers, because our government wants to keep doing illegal things and doesn't want them exposed? Maybe, just maybe, they're not traitors, but heroes and patriots exposing crimes committed by a corrupt, increasingly unconstitutional, and warmongering government? Just sayin'.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Whistle blowers are heroes.

Yes....they are. Didn't expect that answer did you? Here is the part traitors don't understand. There was other ways to expose his concerns. Instead, he stole data off a top secret server....and gave it to a foreign country FIRST, before releasing it online. Why would he do that? Because he was always working for that foreign government?

He wasn't exposing "his concerns". He was exposing unconstitutional crimes against the citizens of the United States. This is a freedom of the press and freedom of speech issue.

You are also factually incorrect. He released the data to Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept.

You have to be very naive to believe he could expose these criminal acts through normal channels. Epstein killed himself in jail type naive.

 

[SevMax2]

He wasn't exposing "his concerns". He was exposing unconstitutional crimes against the citizens of the United States. This is a freedom of the press and freedom of speech issue.

You are also factually incorrect. He released the data to Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept.

You have to be very naive to believe he could expose these criminal acts through normal channels. Epstein killed himself in jail type naive.

My sentiments exactly. Our government is extremely corrupt and increasingly authoritarian. The Espionage Act is a crime against the Constitution and must be repealed.

 

[KeithD]

I think Snowden is a case that started in whistleblowing and was botched up from there by Snowden and the government alike.

 

[BluesDriver66]

My sentiments exactly. Our government is extremely corrupt and increasingly authoritarian. The Espionage Act is a crime against the Constitution and must be repealed.

This should concern every freedom loving American regardless of political philosophy. Do you really want Donald Trump welding this kind of power? How about Hillary Clinton? Anybody who puts their faith to do the right thing in the hands of these lying, power hungry, narcissistic, sociopaths who have proven themselves over and over to be corrupt to the core is insane.

 

[FescueFan]

No, I'm talking about in the real world as far as them still having nukes and considering the west their enemy.

So in no meaningful way with regard to their previous style of governance as you tried to bullshit about earlier.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

The Soviets LOL

 

[Dribble]

Of course traitors see traitors as heros.

 

[SevMax2]

Of course traitors see traitors as heros.

Okay, time out, Bargain Basement Joe McCarthy. Throwing around treason charges is reckless and irresponsible. Besides, treason is giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States, and adhering to them time of war. Since the only wartime enemies we have are the Taliban and ISIS...and since hopefully we'll be out of those wars soon enough, it's not even remotely accurate to describe people who differ with you as "traitors."

You're a bit on the paranoid, imperialist, warmongering, "my country, right or wrong" side, aren't you? You think that the government isn't corrupt, that it has proper channels for things that don't result in immediate stonewalling and retaliation against whistleblowers, etc. Boy is that naive!

Face it, war is a racket, as General Smedley Butler once said. The number of just wars in American history can probably be counted on the fingers of one hand, possibly leaving the thumb and/or pinky to spare. You and your fellow HUAC types need to get a grip and realize that the only reason we have so many "enemies" is that we create them because it's good for business.

It's time for peace, for a repeal of the Espionage, Alien, and Sedition Acts, for a repeal of the Patriot Act, and a serious scale-back of our foreign interventions and to stop destabilizing and toppling foreign regimes. Just imagine if we had left Mossadegh in power in Iran....we wouldn't have to deal with the mullahs, would we, now?

 

[SevMax2]

This should concern every freedom loving American regardless of political philosophy. Do you really want Donald Trump welding this kind of power? How about Hillary Clinton? Anybody who puts their faith to do the right thing in the hands of these lying, power hungry, narcissistic, sociopaths who have proven themselves over and over to be corrupt to the core is insane.

The problem is that the mainstream media works as a front for the intel community and the military industrial complex. So, of course, they're selling war. That's why Phil Donahue lost his show, after all, same with Ed Schultz. It's why the CIA backed Pete Buttigieg and tried to get him nominated. That they failed is because not even the CIA can make people actually vote for a rat.

War is good for business...and business is booming.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Reporting crimes against the Constitution is not treason.

Of course traitors see traitors as heros.

It's a patriotic duty.


Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.