Co(vid)incidence???

[Lazaran]

WARNING: Conspiracy theory alert.

OK, let's have some fun.

Fact: A lab in Wuhan China was doing gain of function research on Corona viruses.

Fact: Virological experts have determined that the Covid-19 virus wasn't created in the Wuhan lab or any other lab.

Fact: Viral gain of function research is designed to promote mutations in corona viruses and identify which mutations would be highly contagious and deadly. Once these highly contagious and deadly mutations are identified, scientists use these lab created mutations to help them identify these same mutations as they occur naturally in the wild; purportedly to provide early identification so virologists can get a jump on developing vaccines and treatments for potential future pandemics.

OK, here's where the conspiracy theory kicks in.

What if the Wuhan lab identified the Covid-19 mutations lethality in the lab and then matched it to an existing natural virus from an animal in the wild.

Once identified in the wild, the lab could have harvested the naturally occurring virus and intentionally or unintentionally infected the public. I'm suggesting it was intentional for the sake of my conspiracy theory.

That begs the question why??

The answer is both obvious and logical.

Targeted population reduction, specifically the old and infirm.

Is it a Co(vid)incidence that this virus is so devastating to the groups that provide the biggest drain on entitlement programs; or was it intentionally selected for its high transmissibility and lethality to those groups.

Now obviously this doesn't apply only to China but also to the USA and the rest of the world. Which brings us to the next part of the conspiracy theory.

The USA and other countries were funding research in Viral gain of function. The USA specifically was funding research in Wuhan before the pandemic hit.

Now is it a Co(vid)incidence that right as the boomers are about to put an impossible burden on the United States Social security and Medicare programs, a perfect virus appears to reduce the number of participants in those programs??

Now I know what you're going to say...... but, but, but the pandemic is costing so much money!!!

Really??? Is anyone doing a cost benefit analysis on the year over year effects of the elderly and people with comorbidities dying and coming off the entitlement rolls in the USA??? Worldwide???

My suspicious mind is guessing that the analysis was already done before the virus was released.

Is it just possible that they never stopped working on the final solution???

Hmmmmm

 

[KeithD]

Fact: Donald Trump farted around for six weeks doing everything he could to pretend there was no corona virus problem in the United States (because he didn't suit his personal plans) and has continued to do everything he can to sweep it under the rug, adding tens of thousands of deaths to the result--so far.

Fact: The reason Chinese conspiracy theories on this are being floated is to try to distract from Trump's complete failure to minimize the effect of the pandemic or even to give a shit about anyone but himself.

Fact: At some point the origins of this need to be investigated deeply, but this isn't the time for that. This is the time for Trump to be taken out so that we can begin to respond effective to both the health and economic ravages of the pandemic.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Fact: Donald Trump farted around for six weeks doing everything he could to pretend there was no corona virus problem in the United States (because he didn't suit his personal plans) and has continued to do everything he can to sweep it under the rug, adding tens of thousands of deaths to the result--so far.

Fact: The reason Chinese conspiracy theories on this are being floated is to try to distract from Trump's complete failure to minimize the effect of the pandemic or even to give a shit about anyone but himself.

Fact: At some point the origins of this need to be investigated deeply, but this isn't the time for that. This is the time for Trump to be taken out so that we can begin to respond effective to both the health and economic ravages of the pandemic.

 

[JackLuis]

Fact: Donald Trump farted around for six weeks doing everything he could to pretend there was no corona virus problem in the United States (because he didn't suit his personal plans) and has continued to do everything he can to sweep it under the rug, adding tens of thousands of deaths to the result--so far.

Fact: The reason Chinese conspiracy theories on this are being floated is to try to distract from Trump's complete failure to minimize the effect of the pandemic or even to give a shit about anyone but himself.

Fact: At some point the origins of this need to be investigated deeply, but this isn't the time for that. This is the time for Trump to be taken out so that we can begin to respond effective to both the health and economic ravages of the pandemic.

Very true as far as you've taken it. But what if as the op suggests, it were a Grand Conspiracy? IN that Putin and Xi both have excess oldsters and they "convinced" Trumpski to join in the conspiracy to shed the excess population in the USA?

Donald grinned as he contemplated subduing the survivors with government surplus grains and cheese.. He he! Crushing his left wingers with a virus and then have them beg for food! Muha ha ahah!!11!

But Putin and Xi suppressed the virus because they had some humanity. And The Great Satan was carved out from within!

Possible?

 

[Lazaran]

Fact: Donald Trump farted around for six weeks doing everything he could to pretend there was no corona virus problem in the United States (because he didn't suit his personal plans) and has continued to do everything he can to sweep it under the rug, adding tens of thousands of deaths to the result--so far.

Fact: The reason Chinese conspiracy theories on this are being floated is to try to distract from Trump's complete failure to minimize the effect of the pandemic or even to give a shit about anyone but himself.

Fact: At some point the origins of this need to be investigated deeply, but this isn't the time for that. This is the time for Trump to be taken out so that we can begin to respond effective to both the health and economic ravages of the pandemic.

To my fellow enemy of people with Cheeto lips and all things oligarchical. My OP was a direct indictment of those who have been trying to gut entitlement programs for decades. I was not so subtly suggesting that Moscow Mitch and his Dragon Lady wife, along with the puppet in chief and the rest of the Sad Old Party leadership just may have had a hand in this conspiracy( theory ). I won't include SOP voters because the Covid-19 virus won't spare them; in fact many of them have the trifecta of comorbidities. Age, weight, and other underlying medical conditions.

If my theory is correct, then Howard Stern was right when he said Trump despises his own supporters. Trump was making noises about cutting entitlements but even SOP voters opposed it so he backed off the plan. Then voila, Covid-19 appears. Probably just a coincidence.

The crazy thing is ... depopulation is something traditionally oppositional forces can unite behind at this moment in time. That is really scary.

By the way, my suspicious mind stems from my Gramps who was stationed at Pearl Harbor before WWII. He told me that from his knowledge of the routine of the base, and the early warning capabilities of the military at that time, there is no way the United States government didn't allow the attack to take place. He also believed the war itself was a worldwide exercise in increasing industrial productivity and reducing the global population, while also establishing a new world order. He also had some stories about how US mining and other natural resource companies were exploiting Korea while that war was going on. It sounds really familiar to the Iraq playbook. How much you wanna bet Venezuela is next?? Although even money says it Iran. Trumps military buildup wasn't for nothing.

 

[KeithD]

Possible?

I think it's irrelevant and draining and effort wasting from what needs to happen at the moment.

 

[JackLuis]

I think it's irrelevant and draining and effort wasting from what needs to happen at the moment.

You really are no fun Pilot.

Sure it's true Trump is a disaster, but you can't dwell on it forever. He is a threat to the entire idea of the Constitutional Republic. He is an abonination, but he's our abomination. It is our duty to point at him a laugh, loud and to toss him tokens of our esteem.

A Blue Wave is coming, but how big will it be. 2016 was pretty bad electorally. Can Dems afford to pitch another two time loser in the face of progressive opposition?

A new direction is what the people deserve,fore example attack the Senate promote the power of the Legislative branch so you can shape the Judicary. Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsey should be ground Zeros.

 

[domroger]

Makes more sense than the r/w conspiracies ,but that's not saying much .

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

No 'blue wave' coming. Unless you mean Navy intel people manning voting booths to make sure their guy wins. Again.

Sorry.

 

[KeithD]

but you can't dwell on it forever.

You can dwell on it until he's safely gone. He needs to be gone in so many dimensions that you cover a lot of ground in keeping the screws to him.

 

[phrodeau]

Putin is 67 and Xi is 66. They wouldn’t have intentionally released the virus without a vaccine.

Kim Jong-Un, on the other hand...

 

[Lazaran]

I think it's irrelevant and draining and effort wasting from what needs to happen at the moment.

Irrelevant??? Cheeto ass and his Cheeto lipped sycophants have been out spreading propaganda on the origin of Covid-19 and the Obama administrations pandemic preparedness efforts. A competing narrative is needed to counter their messaging. My theory is designed to highlight their propaganda and to offer the alternative theory that Covid 19 was a multinational effort to actively shorten the lifespan of those who are a burden on national economies.

Aside from conspiracy theories, the pandemic is providing an opportunity to evaluate systems of governments and also lifestyle choices. China is looking like a model of effective, responsive, governing and the low death rate is a reflection of their ability to control their population. China's way of life is also on display, and its populations somewhat restricted diet and lifestyle choices are no doubt a major factor in their low death rate.

Now compare that system of governing to the USA. I still wouldn't trade a lifetime of freedoms for an effective ability to control an admittedly deadly though not extinction level pandemic, but we must honestly evaluate the impact our free lifestyle is having on our ability to control the spread of Covid-19 and the resulting elevated death rate. That brings us back to the conspiracy theory.

Covid-19 was always going to be deadlier in open democracy's, and seems like it was specifically chosen for its devastating effects on people with comorbidities like many in the USA. It would also be more transmissible among people who are used to freely socializing and wouldn't accept some of the measures China was able to employ. That's why my conspiracy theory is suggesting that the beneficiaries of capitalist countries social programs were the intended targets all along.

The next logical step in the conspiracy theory, is asking who would benefit from the pandemic. Despite what Cheeto ass and his Cheeto lipped sycophants believe, it isn't China. It's the United States government and the wealthy, who, without the Covid virus, would ultimately have to give up their lavish lifestyles to generate the tax revenue required to meet the demands of a wave of retiring boomers accessing the entitlements they were promised over their lifetimes.

That leads us right back to Moscow Mitch and the anti- entitlement cabal. If people want to pin this conspiracy theory on anyone, they are the most logical suspects. Cheeto ass and his Cheeto lipped sycophants are just useful idiots that are helping insure the virus spreads.

 

[Lazaran]

Putin is 67 and Xi is 66. They wouldn’t have intentionally released the virus without a vaccine.

Kim Jong-Un, on the other hand...

Kim Jong-Un has multiple underlying health risks.

Also, as far as a vaccine goes, who knows if a very select few have access to one. We've all seen this movie before. The bad guys always have the antidote.

 

[jp55665566]

Cov-19 circuit in 5G towers?

Could this be real? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1H3A3IMuuI

 

[Lazaran]

Could this be real? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1H3A3IMuuI

Sure, because every group masterminding a global pandemic is going to label their method of distribution.

Stick with the theory that viral gain of function research helped identify the Covid-19 virus in the wild so it couldn't directly be traced back to a lab, thus providing plausible deniability.

It's far more realistic than a telecom technology magically infecting people.

 

[KeithD]

These conspiracy theories just dilute efforts to beat the virus. Maybe time for some of them later but not entertaining them now. If you're into needing to blame, you don't have to go back any further than Trump's malicious response to it all, which has been directly responsible for tens of thousands unnecessary deaths--so far--deaths he doesn't give a shit about.

 

[Misshotndeep]

I finely found the video!!! Woot!!!

 

[Ziggins]

Before the industrial age, viruses were limited by walking speed. Fatal viruses such as ebola could kill entire villages, but killing the hosts prevented pandemics. Viruses that caused minor illness were the winners of evolution. Rapid global transit removed the speed limit of fatality. As energy becomes more expensive, people travel less and buy more locally, so the solution is in progress.

 

[Lazaran]

These conspiracy theories just dilute efforts to beat the virus. Maybe time for some of them later but not entertaining them now. If you're into needing to blame, you don't have to go back any further than Trump's malicious response to it all, which has been directly responsible for tens of thousands unnecessary deaths--so far--deaths he doesn't give a shit about.

Realistically, the virus won't be beat any time soon. If they're developing a vaccine for it, something tells me it's going to be around for a long time. Unfortunately, if my theory is correct, you can expect to see a new normal in mortality rates among certain vulnerable populations; Right up until the illuminati decide population and national economic equilibrium has been restored to the point that they can continue to live their lavish lifestyles free from the drain of entitlement programs.

The real challenge is getting Trumps elderly and at risk base to realize that what Howard Stern is saying about Trumps opinion of them is absolutely true.

It needs to move beyond just Trump though; SOP voters have to be convinced that the SOP leaders care even less about them than Trump. A good start would be to convince them that the Covid-19 pandemic was orchestrated by people who want to cut entitlements, which is less than a degree of separation from Moscow Mitch and the rest of the SOP leadership.

It shouldn't be that hard of a sell.

 

[phrodeau]

Kim Jong-Un has multiple underlying health risks.

Also, as far as a vaccine goes, who knows if a very select few have access to one. We've all seen this movie before. The bad guys always have the antidote.

Who did they test it on?

You’ve got to cover all the bases on this theory of yours.

 

[phrodeau]

Before the industrial age, viruses were limited by walking speed. Fatal viruses such as ebola could kill entire villages, but killing the hosts prevented pandemics. Viruses that caused minor illness were the winners of evolution. Rapid global transit removed the speed limit of fatality. As energy becomes more expensive, people travel less and buy more locally, so the solution is in progress.

Energy is becoming cheaper.

 

[Lazaran]

Who did they test it on?

You’ve got to cover all the bases on this theory of yours.

There are several obvious groups that likely "volunteered" to be test subjects.

The Uighurs and political dissidents are the first two that come to mind, although ethical doctors who tried to share information about the virus in the early stages seem to have "volunteered" as well.(That's a bit of very dark humor for those of you who don't follow the news from China very closely).

As a side note; China has not produced the virological test results from their patient zero according to news reports.

Curiouser and Curiouser said Alice.

 

[domroger]

Before the industrial age, viruses were limited by walking speed. Fatal viruses such as ebola could kill entire villages, but killing the hosts prevented pandemics. Viruses that caused minor illness were the winners of evolution. Rapid global transit removed the speed limit of fatality. As energy becomes more expensive, people travel less and buy more locally, so the solution is in progress.

Black Death .

 

[Lazaran]

Before the industrial age, viruses were limited by walking speed. Fatal viruses such as ebola could kill entire villages, but killing the hosts prevented pandemics. Viruses that caused minor illness were the winners of evolution. Rapid global transit removed the speed limit of fatality. As energy becomes more expensive, people travel less and buy more locally, so the solution is in progress.

Another unanticipated consequence of progress.

That's why no individual should ever be grossly overcompensated for their "great idea". Invariably there are unintended consequences that the masses end up paying for. The sad truth, is that by the time the masses realize a grossly overcompensated individual's "great idea" wasn't so great, it's too late, or the individual has become so powerful that getting them to reimburse society is nearly impossible. The fact that this cycle has been repeated throughout history, and the masses still tolerate it to this day, speaks to the effectiveness of corrupt corporate influence in government, corporate media propaganda, and corporate intimidation.