Clone Incest

[sirhugs]

In the not too distant future, a rich person uses technology to create identical twin clone daughters... eighteen years later... do they love each other the same way they love Daddy?

what happens if they marry? do they share one husband?

 

[sunandshadow]

You can't have female clones of a male; you would have to remove a Y-chromosome and and an X-chromosome from some other source. Also they would be no different than natural identical twins, so not particularly likely to marry the same man, unless this future culture is into polygamy with sibling co-spouses.

 

[Carnevil9]

You can't have female clones of a male; you would have to remove a Y-chromosome and and an X-chromosome from some other source. Also they would be no different than natural identical twins, so not particularly likely to marry the same man, unless this future culture is into polygamy with sibling co-spouses.

1. He never said the original character was a male. He said "rich person." He did mention "Daddy" later, but that could be a different character in the story.

2. Sure you can clone a female from a male. You just have to toss out the Y chromosome. You can double up on the identical X chromosome to complete the set. Trust me, I do this all the time.

3. I agree that they would be virtually the same as identical twins, so it's kind of a "what's the point" situation.

4. How do you make a hormone? Don't pay her! Ha! I kill me.

 

[Hypoxia]

Reminds me of the old question: If you have sex with your clone, is it homosexuality, incest, masturbation, or narcissism?

You can't have female clones of a male; you would have to remove a Y-chromosome and and an X-chromosome from some other source.

But a clone could undergo gender-reassignment (sex-change) procedures, even at an early age. John Varley wrote a number of SF tales exploring this. With future medicine, anyone can be any gender, race, or species they wish.

Also they would be no different than natural identical twins, so not particularly likely to marry the same man, unless this future culture is into polygamy with sibling co-spouses.

Ah, but in a fictional LIT universe, anyone can have any motivations an urges the author wishes. This is fantasyland, remember?

 

[Carnevil9]

Reminds me of the old question: If you have sex with your clone, is it homosexuality, incest, masturbation, or narcissism?

Answer: It is if you're doing it right!

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yeah, you can get female "clones" out of males, you can't get male clones out of females. Now at that point you aren't really talking about a clone so much as a genetically engineered critter but oh well. It should work just fine.

Actually if we follow the system that is described in the original post, a clone created at the age of 18 it wouldn't be a twin with a different personality (not that any of the twins I've ever known really had different personalities. They had quirks but half of them were things I've done when in a group of three or more Sean's just so we stop tripping over each other.) This however would be a clone presumably pre-programed with at least eighteen years worth of personality if not split off from the original at the exact moment of cloning being separated only by as many hours, days, months it took to grow the clone. Unlike twins who are physically separate people and lead different lives literally from the moment they are born including that one was born first if only by a few seconds, minutes or hours. In this case Sean 2.0 would still have graduated from EIS, still lost his virginity to Cytrine, still joined the military. And would suddenly have boobs and a vagina. . .you know what I'm staying away from her, she might have issues that might involve me getting stabbed. Or she might really whore it up because she'd be a hottie with a male mind. . .

Anyway regardless they'd be less a twin mentally and more a carbon copy.

It could be an interesting story though.

 

[Hypoxia]

Answer: It is if you're doing it right!

Ah, converting a multiple-choice question to true-false! Thinking outside the box!

(Then there was the kitty who thought outside the catbox. Ewww. But I digress.)

I first posed this as a three-part question to a relative who is a well-known sci-fi author. Given a choice of homosexuality, incest, or masturbation, she suggested narcissism. Always ask a pro.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's an awkward question especially since you apparently offered them as alternative choices instead of collectively being correct.

It's homosexuality for sure, same sex as you.
It's not masturbation except in some really bizzare sci-fi way because it's not you anymore. Just like if he killed you or you killed him it wouldn't be suicide.

It's probably incest (that's just a really technical question.)

 

[OzoneRed]

I read a science fiction story, years and years ago, about a woman having sex with her female clone. The author labelled it "transcendental masturbation", ie, out-of-body masturbation.

 

[sirhugs]

Maybe Clown Incest would be easier?

 

[MatthewVett]

If you're going to do clones, I feel you should have an age gap or something, otherwise, you might as well just have twins. Why not have a working woman clone herself so she can raise a kid, since she doesn't have any interesting potential dads, and now the daughter is 18, and very curious about mom.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't see why you'd clown yourself to raise yourself. It seems rather pointless, they are just kids that are more similar to you than most but really it's a tad pointless. Like Boba Fett.

What might be interesting would be cloning you at your prime though. It's not your kid, it's twenty year old you, trim and fit and with all the knowledge that comes from being forty or fifty or however old you are.

 

[Hypoxia]

I don't see why you'd clown yourself to raise yourself. It seems rather pointless, they are just kids that are more similar to you than most but really it's a tad pointless. Like Boba Fett.

One clones themself just because they WANT to. People do many pointless and illogical things. If something is possible and we WANT it, then we do it, or try anyway, no matter the sense of it.

What might be interesting would be cloning you at your prime though. It's not your kid, it's twenty year old you, trim and fit and with all the knowledge that comes from being forty or fifty or however old you are.

Minds are not transferred via cloning. If an organism (like you, maybe) is cloned, the resultant clone starts as an embryo. If it survives birth, it's just another raw creature. It knows nothing besides its instincts. No memories arrive magically. It must learn. Now, if you want a brain transplant, just let me whip out my scalpel here...

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fair enough on the irrational part.

In fiction yes the mind is cloned. It's specifically stated in the OP that the clone is 18. An 18 year old, without the appropriate psychological aging would be a child (mentally) and thus unable to consent to sex. In order to comply with Lit rules the clone MUST if not get a brain be "programed" a certain way.

The obvious answer however (and if you look at the questions like is it Masturbation?) clearly the consensus is that a clone is a magical duplicate complete with all your memories and presumably your various scars and the like even though those really shouldn't carry over.

 

[Darksoul295]

Minds are not transferred via cloning. If an organism (like you, maybe) is cloned, the resultant clone starts as an embryo. If it survives birth, it's just another raw creature. It knows nothing besides its instincts. No memories arrive magically. It must learn. Now, if you want a brain transplant, just let me whip out my scalpel here...

I don't blame you if you haven't seen it, as it wasn't a good movie, but The 6th Day comes to mind here.