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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...e-change-tropical-fish-animals-ocean-science/

Tropical Fish Cause Trouble as Climate Change Drives Them Toward the Poles
Newly arrived species mow down vegetation and upend local communities.

The undersea world is on the move. Climate change is propelling fish and other ocean life into what used to be cooler waters, and researchers are scrambling to understand what effect that is having on their new neighborhoods. They are finding that the repercussions of the migration of tropical fish, in particular, are often devastating. Invading tropical species are stripping kelp forests in Japan, Australia, and the eastern Mediterranean and chowing down on sea grass in the northern Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic seaboard.

The removal of a kelp forest or sea grass bed can have devastating effects not only on native plants and animals, but also on commercial fisheries. In southern Japan, for example, the arrival of rabbitfish and parrot fish destroyed as much as 40 percent of the kelp forests there. These lush areas were once thick with abalone and spiny lobster, which supported a famed fishery. But when the kelp disappeared, so did the abalone and spiny lobster, and the fishery plummeted.

Climate change has warmed the ocean surface by an average of a little more than one degree Celsius in the past century, but the warming has not been uniform. Currents have created "hot spots" in temperate oceans, where temperatures have risen two to three times more than the global average, according to (marine ecologist Adriana) Vergés. In those hot spots, tropical species have been able to move in after the minimum temperature in winter has reached a tolerable level.

(Marine scientist Joel) Fodrie said the research in the Gulf found the minimum temperature on the coolest days in the winter had inched up by as much as 3 degrees Celsius, an open invitation for fish that like warmer water. "That's huge," Fodrie said. "When you do the geographic comparison, it's like moving from the northern Gulf down to Miami." That has let species more common off Miami, for example—such as snappers, groupers, and parrot fish-become established in the northern Gulf of Mexico and up the Atlantic seaboard.

Florida's famous stone crabs have been found in the Carolinas, and the Chesapeake's blue crabs have been seen as far north as New York, Fodrie said. He has seen colorful tropical species, such as angelfish and damselfish, off the Carolinas. Plants, too, are on the march: Black mangroves are growing miles farther north along the Florida coast than they were a decade or so ago, Fodrie said.

Devastation doesn't always follow when tropical species move poleward. Some fish and other plants and animals in more temperate waters are moving, as well—when they can.

"In the Gulf of Mexico, they can't do that," (marine scientist Ken) Heck said. "The North American continent is in the way. These native species really don't have anywhere to go."

Species on land and in the oceans have always moved around, but now climate change is increasing the speed of this movement, Vergés said. "There's no doubt. The magnitude of the change is so large that it's very obvious."

Regions are losing and gaining species, but the overall result is a decline in biodiversity.
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phrodeau said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaJJtS_WDmI



http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/21/us-science-climate-idUSBREA0K1TM20140121
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As it is impossible to discuss the existence of a god with one who believes, so too is it impossible to communicate with a global warming caused by man true believer.

For the past fifteen years the average global temperature has remained constant.

Do the search.

...and... glaciers all around the earth are.... ready for this.... GROWING LARGER!

http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm

I did the search for you, now all you have to do is read...


Not than anyone will even comprehend my question or the reason for it, I will ask it anyway... "If there truly is NO anthropomorphic, man caused, planetary warming and the proof is available to all, why do some still believe the planet is warming?"

I know the answers, but do you? Maybe a pm as I may not return to this thread...

amicus... the truth sayer...
 
phrodeau said:
April 2014 tied for warmest on record. http://www.weather.com/news/science...temperature-ties-warmest-record-noaa-20140520

May 2014 was the warmest on record. http://www.weather.com/news/science...s-worlds-hottest-warmest-record-noaa-20140623

June 2014 was the warmest on record. http://www.weather.com/news/science...lds-record-hottest-warmest-june-noaa-20140721
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What's Causing Colder Than Usual Winter?

(That would be El Nino, silly...a cyclical global weather maker)

"Sub-freezing temperatures in Houston, record lows and snowfall all across the U.S., so what happened to global warming?"

http://www.ktrh.com/articles/houston-news-121300/whats-causing-colder-than-usual-winter-12044275/

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As I mentioned, zealots like this guy, true believers, will never change...

Again, I pose the question: AGW being false, why to believers continue to support a refuted theory?

Just like Xtians and others, they will never change...

Amicus the weather man...
 
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/30/reasons-hopeful-overcome-climate-change-solar

Ten reasons to be hopeful that we will overcome climate change:

Karl Mathiesen, Wednesday 30 July 2014 00.00 EDT

1) Barack Obama has made it one of his defining issues
2) China has ordered coal power plants to close
3) The cost of solar has fallen by two thirds
4) People are taking their money out of fossil fuels
5) Bangladeshi women are being retrained as solar technicians
6) Renewable energy will soon take the lion’s share of new power
7) European homes are using 15% less energy than they were in 2000
8) Cutting emissions has become a business imperative
9) Oil is becoming much more expensive to find
10) Electric car sales are doubling each year
 
Jani715 said:
Just a thought:

The world is only so big. It can only handle so much. When the ice age happened and when the dinosaurs were around there wasn't much going on really. Now there's billions of people, add in all the cars, all the factories, everything we do every day. Then look at how much that all takes to make happen. Eventually, maybe not just yet, maybe not in 20 years, but eventually it won't work any more. I think it's around like 100 years for the population to double. That's basically double everything. We don't have a second planet. So where do you think its all going to end up?
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That reminds me of the fellow who argued that the recent rise in sea level isn't caused by melting land ice, but is really caused by all the garbage we've been throwing into the ocean.

He didn't offer any proposals to reduce it.
 
Jani715 said:
Just a thought:

The world is only so big. It can only handle so much. When the ice age happened and when the dinosaurs were around there wasn't much going on really. Now there's billions of people, add in all the cars, all the factories, everything we do every day. Then look at how much that all takes to make happen. Eventually, maybe not just yet, maybe not in 20 years, but eventually it won't work any more. I think it's around like 100 years for the population to double. That's basically double everything. We don't have a second planet. So where do you think its all going to end up?
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In other words, the biggest environmental challenge facing humanity today is caused by too much sex?

That's bad....
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
What scientists have said we're all going to die soon?
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Not to mention what "men of science" in the middle ages said the earth was flat? Considering that it was accepted as sphere as early as the 6th century BC and it's circumference was calculated sometime around 200 BC., I doubt there were "many".
 
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