Zingiber
Literotica Guru
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Chyoo3 feature suggestions and discussion deserve their own thread. If you'll pardon me, alteredego, I'll start by following up to you.
-Zingiber
Like the alt.sex.stories codes:
http://www.asstr.org/~Uther_Pendragon/code/scfr.htm
Let them eat Google?
As long as the stories are publicly browseable, and perhaps if some of the links are marked "don't index" to cut down on the noise.
Unfortunately while this seems to sort of work for www.asstr.org, where each story or chapter is a separate document with story codes prominently at the top, the current lack of story codes in Chyoo2 (Chyoo3 doesn't seem to be indexed yet) means that for a search like
http://www.google.com/search?q=lesbian+incest+anal+site:chyoo.com
you get hits like Gystex's guidelines, which mention one of the keywords positively and two negatively, perhaps not what is intended.
Perhaps to support indexing services which don't know about the structure of the site, the codes could be put in micro-print or META tags into the individual story pages?
I think that stories sometimes evolve, and different threads may run off in different directions that might not reflect the original codes the story was submitted with. So they should be changeable by the story editor. (In fact, maybe individual pages/threads should be tagged with content codes).
From the point of view of searching for the kind of story you're interested in (or especially the kind of story you're not interested in), they sound especially useful. Your complaints about Chyoo2 search seem well founded.
I think some checkboxes/etc. would be good to provide standard searchable keywords. The various ASSTR story codes are mostly readable to the initiate, but harder to use for an automatic search because of varying ways different authors express the same thing. Keywords should go into the story summary page to make this findable via a generic search engine (Google).
Perhaps a precooked search links page could assist external indexing that would highlight category keywords (named links to searches returning all stories containing popular characteristics, plus a search box for matching characteristics you want or don't).
We'd want a story codes glossary page for people wanting to use external search engines. ("Oh, at Chyoo3 you index flibulating stories under "flib"?")
If story codes are made visible (or parseable) from individual pages, it would be possible to show a story map that color-coded threads with stuff you were looking for or not. It wouldn't even have to be built into Chyoo3, just make use of its public HTML output.
Likewise embedding date information in a thread display page (created, laste edited, last rated) could be used in creative ways.
Maybe that's one way to audition new features -- have other people write and host them as "skins" around the site.
Hmm. Let's think on it.
Story codes: Good, certainly better than the current Chyoo2 situation. Should have standard ones, presented on the site in ways to make them useful to external search services such as Google, and discussed in a glossary page.
Story codes: Misleading. A story can diverge from a given set of story codes, and plotlines can be different from the emphasis given in the story summary. Should we rate individual threads/pages as well? Especially in large stories, finding the "whipped cream" thread (for example) can be a needle in a haystack. We'll want full-text search as well.
Story codes: Interesting. If they're embedded in story summary and thread pages in a standard, program-parseable way, they could be an example of a "hook" that would be attractive to extend with extra behavior on top of Chyoo3.
-Zingiber
alteredego524 said:
Like the alt.sex.stories codes:
http://www.asstr.org/~Uther_Pendragon/code/scfr.htm
Let them eat Google?
As long as the stories are publicly browseable, and perhaps if some of the links are marked "don't index" to cut down on the noise.
Unfortunately while this seems to sort of work for www.asstr.org, where each story or chapter is a separate document with story codes prominently at the top, the current lack of story codes in Chyoo2 (Chyoo3 doesn't seem to be indexed yet) means that for a search like
http://www.google.com/search?q=lesbian+incest+anal+site:chyoo.com
you get hits like Gystex's guidelines, which mention one of the keywords positively and two negatively, perhaps not what is intended.
Perhaps to support indexing services which don't know about the structure of the site, the codes could be put in micro-print or META tags into the individual story pages?
I think that stories sometimes evolve, and different threads may run off in different directions that might not reflect the original codes the story was submitted with. So they should be changeable by the story editor. (In fact, maybe individual pages/threads should be tagged with content codes).
From the point of view of searching for the kind of story you're interested in (or especially the kind of story you're not interested in), they sound especially useful. Your complaints about Chyoo2 search seem well founded.
I think some checkboxes/etc. would be good to provide standard searchable keywords. The various ASSTR story codes are mostly readable to the initiate, but harder to use for an automatic search because of varying ways different authors express the same thing. Keywords should go into the story summary page to make this findable via a generic search engine (Google).
Perhaps a precooked search links page could assist external indexing that would highlight category keywords (named links to searches returning all stories containing popular characteristics, plus a search box for matching characteristics you want or don't).
We'd want a story codes glossary page for people wanting to use external search engines. ("Oh, at Chyoo3 you index flibulating stories under "flib"?")
If story codes are made visible (or parseable) from individual pages, it would be possible to show a story map that color-coded threads with stuff you were looking for or not. It wouldn't even have to be built into Chyoo3, just make use of its public HTML output.
Likewise embedding date information in a thread display page (created, laste edited, last rated) could be used in creative ways.
Maybe that's one way to audition new features -- have other people write and host them as "skins" around the site.
Hmm. Let's think on it.
Story codes: Good, certainly better than the current Chyoo2 situation. Should have standard ones, presented on the site in ways to make them useful to external search services such as Google, and discussed in a glossary page.
Story codes: Misleading. A story can diverge from a given set of story codes, and plotlines can be different from the emphasis given in the story summary. Should we rate individual threads/pages as well? Especially in large stories, finding the "whipped cream" thread (for example) can be a needle in a haystack. We'll want full-text search as well.
Story codes: Interesting. If they're embedded in story summary and thread pages in a standard, program-parseable way, they could be an example of a "hook" that would be attractive to extend with extra behavior on top of Chyoo3.
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