Church Sex

[Victor_Pollack]

I've read about a third of the posts--there are quite a few. took me two sittings to get that far. I'm not Catholic so much of what is discussed here doesn't fit into anything I would write--I don't think research could make up for my lack of experience.

However, I'm an ordained minister in a Christian Fundamentalist denomination although I haven't "practiced" for over 10 years-I don't care to discuss why now. I've also worked with some Penticostal congregations.

I've read several good ideas here and I'll "borrow" from them as I write my grand opus. I only have one story posted here but have five or so more to be posted shortly.

I'm writing the story from the perspective of a church that's rotting from the inside out. Unfortunately, a lot of it is based on fact. It will be multi-chapter or a novela. There's a pastor who likes young ladies (18+), scorned women, wives not getting what they need at home, incest, masturbation, infidelity, personality disorders that lead to weird situations, schoolgirl crushes, sex in and around the church, and more I can't recall. There may be a demonic or sociopathic element.

I don't want to step on anyone's toes so if you're in the process of writing sonething close to this or know of a story here that resembles this please let me know. I expect there would be room for both of us but I'm just checking.

Vic

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Hi! Welcome to Lit and the Story Ideas board. http://bestsmileys.com/waving/5.gif

Let me be the first to tell you that there is/was a thread here titled Sex in Church that seems to have finally died down. It's 33 pages long and we did get "off topic" a time or two so I have a feeling you wouldn't want to read the whole thing. However, it may give you some inspiration as you write since you already mentioned you may be pulling little tidbits here and there that you've read on this board.

Let me also say that that is perfectly alright! That's what this board is here for. I sincerely doubt that anyone would post an idea they had if they "didn't want to share it". Many of the people who post to this board are not authors on Lit. They're actually asking for stories! Those of us who are authors, here, usually are "offering" ideas for others that may be interested in writing. Also, we all brainstorm ideas together. (Such as in that "Sex in Church" thread. If we all were up for it, I'm sure several dozens of stories could be written from that thread alone. The beauty of unique minds is, I'm sure our stories would all end out different in some way even if we wrote about the same topic!)

I look forward to reading this project of yours, your current story, and the ones you say are soon to be done!

 

[Victor_Pollack]

Sex In Church

Thank you for the very warm welcome and the comments. I thought I was adding to the Sex In Church thread. My bad. I hope to have the shorter stories up asap. I'm waiting to get a couple back from an editor with a big red crayon. I've been trying to get an editor for over a month but until saturday I had gotten no responses. The one response I did get sounded less than enthusiastic but we shall see.

Don't hold your breath for my great American erotic novella. It's a lot of writing and I get sidetracked writing other stories especially ones written for other people. You know, "Could you write me a story where I'm a blah blah and blah blah happens ...."

Thanks again.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

No worries about posting a new thread. I just smiled when I read it and felt you'd get some use out of the "Sex in Church" thread so I linked it!

As for the volunteer editors, I've heard horror stories around Lit about what a pain it was to find people and get a reply. I remember long ago I'd mail two women and two men in hopes that one each would reply back to me so I could get opinions/feedback from each gender! Feels like that was eons ago now!

I'm fortunate enough that one of my dear friends online happens to be my "editor" as well. I run everything by him before I submit at Lit now. When he's not online and I'm itching to get something proof-read, though, I check out the Editor's Forum board. Many of the people there are friendly and if you start a thread asking if someone is willing to edit something for you they'll usually reply.

Good luck!

 

[Athena_e19]

The best thing to develop is a relationship with someone who has a similar creativity level and interests to your own. Use them as a guide through the story writing process and also as your editor. It seems that the official editors can be quite delayed in responding. Some of them aren't even very good. Having someone who regularly guides the same process for you, enables you to understand what direction you're taking in general, as well as when you fall short of your usual ability...

I write because I enjoy the process and the feedback. A few of my "editors" enjoy being a part of that and do it themselves.

Welcome.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Chase, I just wanted to let you know that your links don't work. I was interested in reading The Séance and clicked on the link. The new web page remained blank. I thought maybe it was my computer. So I copy/pasted the link info into IE and received a Lit message saying the page does not exist. So I looked up your author's profile and clicked on the story from there. Again, blank page.

So far, it seems to only affect The Séance. Not sure why though.

 

[Deadwood]

I started to write a story once about related to church. It was a historical erotica story based on the Salem Witch Trials. It started off with a description of a woman being burned at the stake, and as the smoke and flames overtake her, she sees the minister watching her punishment carried out. This obviously angers her as the minister is the one who needs such drastic punishment.

This makes for a great flashback as the story unfolds about how the minister took advantage of her, manipulating her into taking her virginity, and doing other "unmoral" things. In the end the Minister ends up fabricating the whole witch thing to cover up his strange fetishes and unmoral desires for sex.

It sounds pretty crazy in the brevity I described here, but I think it could be a great story. The problem is, I was raised as a Baptist and I just cannot seem to mix church and erotica stories. I wrote the first chapters but then...well...I just could not write it. I know, its crazy, if you have read some of my stories on LIT you know something a simple as sex in church would be okay.

Anyway, if it is something you are interested in, email me and I can describe my story idea better. I am sure someone could take this seed of a story idea and turn it into something great.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Deadwood, I think it's a cool idea. Would you set the tale in a fictional (or different) town, or use the real names of the Salem Village minister, whitch hunter, and so on?

 

[Monazwx]

I'm writing the story from the perspective of a church that's rotting from the inside out. Unfortunately, a lot of it is based on fact. It will be multi-chapter or a novela. There's a pastor who likes young ladies (18+), scorned women, wives not getting what they need at home, incest, masturbation, infidelity, personality disorders that lead to weird situations, schoolgirl crushes, sex in and around the church, and more I can't recall. There may be a demonic or sociopathic element. Vic

Without the demonic aspect, my first thought was Elmer Gantry, i.e. a smooth-talking pastor with an eye for the ladies . . . I can't wait to see what you've come up with though.

 

[Victor_Pollack]

I started to write a story once about related to church. It was a historical erotica story based on the Salem Witch Trials. ... This obviously angers her as the minister is the one who needs such drastic punishment.

This makes for a great flashback as the story unfolds about how the minister took advantage of her, manipulating her into taking her virginity, and doing other "unmoral" things. In the end the Minister ends up fabricating the whole witch thing to cover up his strange fetishes and unmoral desires for sex.

It sounds pretty crazy in the brevity I described here, but I think it could be a great story. The problem is, I was raised as a Baptist and I just cannot seem to mix church and erotica stories. I wrote the first chapters but then...well...I just could not write it. I know, its crazy, if you have read some of my stories on LIT you know something a simple as sex in church would be okay.

Anyway, if it is something you are interested in, email me and I can describe my story idea better. I am sure someone could take this seed of a story idea and turn it into something great.

You have an interesting idea I hadn't thought about. My story is set in the current day and centers on a Baptist minister who is caught up in the erotic adventures of himself and members of the congregation and the community; and his ministerial duties assisting members work out their psycho social/erotic situations. He also is an amateur sleuth resolving problems in his church community and the surrounding community ( e.g. a town building inspector is found dead, head first in a percolation hole--used to determine how much fluid the ground can absorb, necessary for septic systems. His vehicle is found on the other side of town and the last time he was seen alive was at an inspection just before the inspection at the church). It will also discuss taboos, the lead Pastor's sexual involvement with young women (over 18) in the church, incest, and lots more. I have no idea how long this will be and if I'll release it in chapters or as a novella/novell.

I've spent some time in Salem, MA, studying the trials as well as related trials in other places--including the documented and mythical material, and more. But I had not thought of a spirit/curse/supernatural thread in one or more of the my chapters.

I don't think you crazy for having a theological aversion to mixing sex and church. A few years back I wrote a play that explored what I thought was a troubling theological problem with the Garden of Eden stories. It had a cast of eleven which is quite large for an experimental production. We got as far as a staged reading for the 90 minute performance and it was well received but not ready to go any further. Perhaps some day.... We held a full audition with a couple of hundred actors auditioning for a non-paying part. All read the play for thr first time that day and a few dropped out because of a conflict with their beliefs. Early into rehersals, another two quit for the same reason.

I'm an ordained Baptist minister in more or less good standing and hold a Ph.D. in Theology although I haven't participated in a church for many years--I'm not going to get into that so save yourself the typing. My point is that you have to challenge yourself along lines where you can live with the possible answers. Example: some say the Song of Songs is an allegory and others say it's very erotic and both groups have excellent reasons.

I have not as yet read any of your work but I intend to and I don't know when I will finish this heretical tome but if you'd like to discuss it on a more personal level you can reach me at victor.pollack@yahoo.com

 

[Deadwood]

Deadwood, I think it's a cool idea. Would you set the tale in a fictional (or different) town, or use the real names of the Salem Village minister, whitch hunter, and so on?

I have done a few historical erotic fictions, and I would have to say keeping things as close to the real thing is always a good policy. The best gossip stem from a thread of truth. I think the same principal applies to historical fiction.

I wrote the first paragraph or two for my story once, but I must have deleted it for I cannot seem to find it now. Its a shame because the hardest part about writing is actualy starting the story. I am sure someone without religious tripping hazzards could run with it from there.

 

[Deadwood]

That is interesting Victor. It is interesting how your religious beliefs can trip you up in all matter of life. I was exploring Quantum Physics awhile ago and without question my religious background came into play again.

Feel free to check out a few of my stories. Willard Quarry is a pretty good one as far as quality writing is concerned, where as Attic Vengence briefly touches up witch trials, murder and other religious aspects.

 

[Athena_e19]

I was watching that cop show with the weird hammer noise in between everything... There is like a dozen spin offs and I can't think of its name... Shoot!

Anyways, they were kind of lambasting the Ted Haggard scandal out of Colorado with their own version of events. They ended up making them out to be a really twisted group of people. Its kind of sad to see someone going through a tough identity and familial struggle being ripped up and tossed into the public like that.

A friend of mine, who I went to school with prior to U. was on staff at the church and felt like he had to resign because of a relationship he had prior to taking his position and prior to getting marriage. I was impressed by the way that he stuck to his standards (although I don't agree with them always). It was disheartening to see that decision put up on MSNBC. He wasn't even a powerful or influential guy- but he still ended up getting national news coverage.

Sick.

I like the idea of writing stories about what goes on behind closed doors. I just don't like intimate details of anyone's details being hung out for everyone to comment on, without their involvement in the process.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

I was watching that cop show with the weird hammer noise in between everything... There is like a dozen spin offs and I can't think of its name... Shoot!

Law and Order. LOVE that show! They oftentimes take real life events and twist them into their own shows.

 

[Athena_e19]

I have become a crime show addict recently.

I love LAW and ORDER (Thanks for the assist!), and the original CSI and then I think it is called Criminal Minds.

I hate Horatio on CSI Miami. Too many weird mannerisms. Reminds me of when I was high school and my dad would chaperone stuff and try to behave like a cool "dude".


I think I've kidnapped this thread.

 

[Virgin_Whore_Baby]

Please

No more talking about Law & Order or CSI! Make a new thread for it. Back to church fucking!

I've wanted to fuck in church since I, uh, send a pm if u really wanna know. I don't know with who though. Not a priest or something; they're sooo gross. Janice Dickinson talked about screwing some dude in an empty church in her first book. I also have a funny story relating to church sex.

So, anyway, I'm not creative or smart enough to write one of my own. I'm making a request. Someone write about having sex in church. It may involve voyeurism, maybe not. I don't know. Think about it. Get back to me when you think of something.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Virgin_Whore_Baby, you'll have to edit out the reference to under aged sexuality.

 

[hardguy50]

Wow...haven't been here in a while, but was thrilled to find such a fabulous thread. Victor's story sounds so exciting.

I have a very conservative, young, religious wife. Her family has always been involved in her church and she has remained involved as well. She is the typical proper church going, wholesome woman. However she can really open up and be wild in bed. Since I have known her I have fantasized about her having sex with men from church...in all different parts of the church...in all situations.

If anyone is interested in writing this type of story with her as the main character I'd be more than happy to provide you with whatever info you need to do so. I can be emailed at hardguy58@hotmail.com

 

[fbsfantasy]

Virgin_Whore_Baby, you'll have to edit out the reference to under aged sexuality.

Wow BT, here we go again....and you thought I dropped off the face of the earth!
FB

 

[Victor_Pollack]

Please Clarify

I have a very conservative, young, religious wife. Her family has always been involved in her church and she has remained involved as well. She is the typical proper church going, wholesome woman. However she can really open up and be wild in bed. Since I have known her I have fantasized about her having sex with men from church...in all different parts of the church...in all situations.

If anyone is interested in writing this type of story with her as the main character I'd be more than happy to provide you with whatever info you need to do so.

Although I'm no where ready to write, part of what I will write will include some of the plot points you mentioned--they're already in my outline which is not finished either. The likleyhood of me finding time to write your story are slim. Nonetheless, I would like to understand parts of your post that are a bit foggy to me (I've found colors often help).

1. I have fantasized about her having sex with men from church
Why? What's the husband's motivation for passing her around? Are they there so the story will have an abundance of sex passages? Where does the sex happen? In church? At your home? At their home? Are the men part of a group, like all the deacons or all the officers or just a random sample? How do you advertise your wife's availability--certainly not in the church organ. Can the men come back for seconds? Do the men know each other? Is it an older church made of stone with lots of nooks and crannies or modern?

2. in all different parts of the church
I'm assuming you mean something like none of the men have the wife in the same place as another man. Why is that important? Are you saying that not only are the people--men and women--hipocrites, but the husband has zero respect for the church (big C or little c?) and tales pleasure in defiling it?

3. in all situations
Maybe it depends on how you define all, but I don't understand. What do you mean by "situation"? While the choir is singing? Multiply "all different parts of the church" by "in all situations" and you have more sex scenes in this story than I think you would want to read--it would make War and Piece look like a short story.

4. I'd be more than happy to provide you with whatever info you need to do so.
What did you have in mind? Seriously, what info do you have? I'd love to have help when I'm ready. I guess it's just too early for me to even know what I might need.

Victor

 

[snooper]

... War and Piece ...

Now there's a title looking for a story ...