Chuckleheaded Law in CA

Boxlicker101

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The CA legislature recently passed a new and very stupid law and the dunce of a governor signed it. It says something to the effect that to be on a primary ballot and run for POTUS or VEEP, a candidate must make public his or her tax returns for the.last five years. The law has already been challenged by a bipartisan group of registered voters. This law is so blatantly unconstitutional it will by shot down by the first court to consider it. :(
 
You haz a sad because there's a slight chance Trump won't get away with one of his biggest lies? Yeah, okay.
 
He has consistently claimed to be worth several times what the evidence suggests he really is worth. Releasing his tax returns would prove it.

Income tax returns have nothing to do with net worth - only with income and expenses. People might get some kind of idea from depreciation schedules, but only of real estate that has not been fully depreciated.
 
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Income tax returns have nothing to do with net worth - only with income and expenses. People might get some kind of idea from depreciation schedules, but only of real estate that has not been fully depreciated.

True, but it would put the lie to his claim to be an incredibly successful businessman. It's an open secret that he's failed at just about everything he's tried his hand at, and actual numbers would put that into rather stark relief.

But more to the point, why does this law bother you?
 
True, but it would put the lie to his claim to be an incredibly successful businessman. It's an open secret that he's failed at just about everything he's tried his hand at, and actual numbers would put that into rather stark relief.

But more to the point, why does this law bother you?

According to Forbes and others who are concerned with such things, The Donald's net worth is over three billion dollars. By any standards, he is incredibly successful. He has declared bankruptcy several times, but this is just a ploy to rip off creditors. He is not very honest, and calling him a big crook would not be an overstatement.

As to why the law bothers me, I don't like to see the legislature passing stupid laws that are sure to be overturned. Such laws are a waste of everybody's time and effort.
 
This is probably unconstitutional, but as always it's funny to see how hysterical the Trump people get at the prospect of his tax returns being made public, something that is thoroughly routine for virtually every other candidate for high office.
 
This is probably unconstitutional, but as always it's funny to see how hysterical the Trump people get at the prospect of his tax returns being made public, something that is thoroughly routine for virtually every other candidate for high office.

I say we should make Trump make his birth certificate public. Someone that orange couldn't possible have been born on Earth.
 
I'm glad to see your admission that you judge people by the color of their skin. :cool:

You ARE aware of what Dan is referring to, aren't you? I've got my differences with you - to put it mildly - but you're not Dumpington. You can't be that clueless.
 
You ARE aware of what Dan is referring to, aren't you? I've got my differences with you - to put it mildly - but you're not Dumpington. You can't be that clueless.

Okay, skin and hair. What else would the "orange" reference be? Red and blue and green are references to political leanings, but I have never heard of orange.
 
Even though I'm retired, I still hold security clearances and have to register my tax returns and a financial statement every year. The president has security clearances and even more of a public need to disclose his financials than I do. I don't see where that is unconstitutional if national or state laws are passed--and I think they should be.

Everyone knows why Trump's taxes should be released--they will show not only that he has lied about his finances (Bernie Sanders probably is worth more than Trump is when debits are subtracted from assets--Trump lies about both) but also that he engaged in criminal financial dealings and is owned by the Russians and probably the Saudis as well.

Who do you think you're fooling, Box?
 
If you are going to cite the Tax Return law in California as silly, why not the law that says Ways and Means can review anyone's Tax Returns? Trumpists refuse to obey the law and yet they are still upright!

I thought you were for States Rights, Box?:)
 
You ARE aware of what Dan is referring to, aren't you? I've got my differences with you - to put it mildly - but you're not Dumpington. You can't be that clueless.

Umm, I'm afraid he can. No one on the discussion board is as clueless on every topic as Box is.
 
Okay, skin and hair. What else would the "orange" reference be? Red and blue and green are references to political leanings, but I have never heard of orange.

He was referring to Trump's own record of demanding Obama's birth certificate. Maybe Keith is right and you really didn't know that. I don't suppose it matters.
 
According to Forbes and others who are concerned with such things, The Donald's net worth is over three billion dollars. By any standards, he is incredibly successful. He has declared bankruptcy several times, but this is just a ploy to rip off creditors. He is not very honest, and calling him a big crook would not be an overstatement.

As to why the law bothers me, I don't like to see the legislature passing stupid laws that are sure to be overturned. Such laws are a waste of everybody's time and effort.



The point of releasing his tax returns is the hope of finding something to pin on him over the last 30 years of filings. This is nothing more than an attempt at gotcha politics. No one is obligated to turn over their tax returns, it's a protected document. We have the IRS to determine if he followed IRS guidelines that laws and regulations were adhered to, and if he didn't it's up to the IRS to litigate and prosecute and assign appropriate penalties, not DAN or YB or the democratic fuckheads like NEAL or Nadler. If you want tax returns released as a prerequisite to running for public office then legislate laws that make it mandatory "FOR ALL". You know than won't pass because of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler and the likes who all have their own skeletons in the closet. More Trump derangement syndrome and hypocrisy and nothing more. Nancy being third in line should turn over her and her husbands business returns for the same reason they want Trump to turn over his, she might be on the take with Putin. See how ridiculous that sounds.
 
He was referring to Trump's own record of demanding Obama's birth certificate.

He's just way too orange. Like one night I got very high and held an orange next to the TV screen and they were the same color. I would have tried a sweet potato but, alas, I was too baked to trust myself with a vegetable peeler.

Umm, I'm afraid he can. No one on the discussion board is as clueless on every topic as Box is.

I submit that dump (bot's alt) is pretty dump. He didn't know that Sherman tanks stopped being produced in 1957.
 
He was referring to Trump's own record of demanding Obama's birth certificate. Maybe Keith is right and you really didn't know that. I don't suppose it matters.

I don't believe that. Trump has often been described as orange. And it was in 20ll, long before Trump's announcement of his candidacy, that he acknowledged that Obama had been born in Hawaii. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxFkEj7KPC0
 
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If you want tax returns released as a prerequisite to running for public office then legislate laws that make it mandatory "FOR ALL".

That's what California did. Besides, no other major candidate of either party in recent history has refused to release hir returns.
 
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