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first of all: How easy is it to get chloroform ?
Besides that: I heard that there is this "date rape" drug. A guy has a date with a girl in a bar. When she doesn't look, he pours something into her glass. The girl becomes dizzy, so they leave the bar ... and then on the outside, the girl becomes unconscious .... and then the guy rapes her ...
Besides that: I heard that there is this "date rape" drug. A guy has a date with a girl in a bar. When she doesn't look, he pours something into her glass. The girl becomes dizzy, so they leave the bar ... and then on the outside, the girl becomes unconscious .... and then the guy rapes her ...
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The date rape drug is known as a "roofie", or roofies when plural. Here is some information on roofies for anyone who is so inclined to read.
Apparently it's not difficult to buy chloroform! According to ScienceLab.com you can buy chloroform online.
Now, on to the question that started this thread! How can we help you come up with ideas on "how to use chloroform to get a woman to bed in a rape story"? Reading your post tells me you know how to use chloroform, or more appropriately, you know how it's used due to seeing it in movies or similar media. Is that a safe assumption?
If so, how can we help? If not, usually in movies the suspect drenches a rag or cloth with chloroform. They usually grab the victim from behind, holding them around the waist with one arm, and press the cloth to the nose and mouth area. As the person breathes in the chemical they usually pass out. Depending on how strong the "dose" is, though, they could die from breathing it in!
Hope this helps some. If not, ask again and I'll try better! lol
Apparently it's not difficult to buy chloroform! According to ScienceLab.com you can buy chloroform online.
Now, on to the question that started this thread! How can we help you come up with ideas on "how to use chloroform to get a woman to bed in a rape story"? Reading your post tells me you know how to use chloroform, or more appropriately, you know how it's used due to seeing it in movies or similar media. Is that a safe assumption?
If so, how can we help? If not, usually in movies the suspect drenches a rag or cloth with chloroform. They usually grab the victim from behind, holding them around the waist with one arm, and press the cloth to the nose and mouth area. As the person breathes in the chemical they usually pass out. Depending on how strong the "dose" is, though, they could die from breathing it in!
Hope this helps some. If not, ask again and I'll try better! lol
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Hey
If you're going to use chloroform in a story or real life, Pour it on the outside of the cloth, not soak the cloth, it must be filtered not neat, or it could kill, or at the least burn the skin of a sensitive skinned person. Ether will knock someone out as well, but is quite dangerous to use for all concerned.
Why not just get her out of her head on booze and do her, always works with me, chuckle!!
jj xx
If you're going to use chloroform in a story or real life, Pour it on the outside of the cloth, not soak the cloth, it must be filtered not neat, or it could kill, or at the least burn the skin of a sensitive skinned person. Ether will knock someone out as well, but is quite dangerous to use for all concerned.
Why not just get her out of her head on booze and do her, always works with me, chuckle!!
jj xx
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You make it sound like he wants to rape a woman and is looking for pointers Mystery. I certainly hope that is not the case and that this is still a "story idea"!
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Maybe everyone is really missing a point or two here.
First of all both ether and chloroform are dangerous to use. The supress the chock reflex. Both drugs (yes, drugs) cause the patient to produce a profusion of saliva. Many deaths have been attributed to patients chocking on their own saliva. So if you don't know what you are doing and want to kill someone these drugs are a good way to do it.
Second, both drugs will produce a total relaxation of all the muscles along with a complete state of non-awareness. Effectively you have a patient who is basically dead but still breathing. This sounds like necrophelia here.
On the other hand, the "date rape" drugs cause severe drowsyness and loss of inhibition and awareness to a point but do not cause complete relaxation. They are fairly "safe" as far as dosage, however, they can cause unexpected side affects including death in some cases.
Personally, I don't recommend any of this.
First of all both ether and chloroform are dangerous to use. The supress the chock reflex. Both drugs (yes, drugs) cause the patient to produce a profusion of saliva. Many deaths have been attributed to patients chocking on their own saliva. So if you don't know what you are doing and want to kill someone these drugs are a good way to do it.
Second, both drugs will produce a total relaxation of all the muscles along with a complete state of non-awareness. Effectively you have a patient who is basically dead but still breathing. This sounds like necrophelia here.
On the other hand, the "date rape" drugs cause severe drowsyness and loss of inhibition and awareness to a point but do not cause complete relaxation. They are fairly "safe" as far as dosage, however, they can cause unexpected side affects including death in some cases.
Personally, I don't recommend any of this.
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Jenny _S said:
Again, hopefully this is *still* a story idea and not something to recommend or not.
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Hmmmmm
So do I dear, this I hope is development of a story with ultimate realism involved, rather than a made up scenario picked up on by some of the more educated readers.
I agree with Jen about the use of asphixiant chemicals like Chloroform and Ether as a drug for this purpose, but I also think the date rape drugs to be more harmful emotionally in this kind of scenario, knocked right out you know nothing, date rape drugs leave the victims in a very confused half coherent state, with mixed up after memories of the event.
Ok in a fantasy tale all of this, but not so pleasant in real life, I know I've been there.
EroticWhispers77 said:
So do I dear, this I hope is development of a story with ultimate realism involved, rather than a made up scenario picked up on by some of the more educated readers.
I agree with Jen about the use of asphixiant chemicals like Chloroform and Ether as a drug for this purpose, but I also think the date rape drugs to be more harmful emotionally in this kind of scenario, knocked right out you know nothing, date rape drugs leave the victims in a very confused half coherent state, with mixed up after memories of the event.
Ok in a fantasy tale all of this, but not so pleasant in real life, I know I've been there.
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Chloroform is intended to render you dead to the world. Literally dead enough to perform invasive surgery. As far as story ideas go I am not sure that a story where the victim is lights out like that is going to work. A woman that out is unlikely to lubricate, so vaginal rape would be exceptionally brutal and potentially damaging. I don't think that will clear the editors. I question the level of enjoyment anyone would get from a partner who will not react at all, no matter what the stimuli.
I don't read a lot of NC so I could be wrong.
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I don't read a lot of NC so I could be wrong.
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Let me address this from two points of vbiew: as a writer of erotica, and as a chemist.
Chloroform is not as easy to get as it once was, because it's a halocarbon, one of the class of compounds that's known to deplete the ozone layer. However, it's still used in labs and can be purchased from commercial venders. It's a liquid with a distinctive sweet-fruity odor that evaporates at a relatively low temperature. It's readily absorbed through the skin and collects in the fatty tissues and the liver, and over time will cause health problems if used frequently.
When inhaled it causes first euphoria and intoxication (just like sniffing glue), and then unconsciousness. It doesn't produce these effects when absorbed through the skin. Unconsciousness lasts only as long as the chloroform is presented. Once you take it away, the victim regains consciousness within a matter of minutes.
I've sniffed it recreationally a few times. It's a cheap and stupid high, just like any solvent sniffing. You can get pretty much the same effect by sniffing dry cleaning solvent, which I wouldn't recommend.
Those are the chemical facts. Now, as a topic for erotic fantasy, chloroform is something like hypnosis. Niether would work very well for sex, but people like to imagine that they would because they enjoy the fantasies. The hypnosis fantasy is to have someone under your command, the chloroform fantasy is to have someone totally defenseless. Somewhere I have seen a site for erotic stories that has a "Chloroform" category, but I don't remember where, but the chloroform story usually involves abducting a woman by knocking her unconscious with a rag soaked in chloroform over her mouth and then molesting her in any one of a number of ways while she's out.
This is pure fantasy. It would never work in real life, no more than post-hypnotic suggestion would work. Of course it's ridiculously dangerous in real life, and even if it weren't and you were stupid enough to try this, you'd have to keep putting the rag over her mouth whenever she started coming around and the fumes would get to you as well. Don't even think about it.
So play with it as a fantasy, but understand that that's all it is.
---dr.M.
Chloroform is not as easy to get as it once was, because it's a halocarbon, one of the class of compounds that's known to deplete the ozone layer. However, it's still used in labs and can be purchased from commercial venders. It's a liquid with a distinctive sweet-fruity odor that evaporates at a relatively low temperature. It's readily absorbed through the skin and collects in the fatty tissues and the liver, and over time will cause health problems if used frequently.
When inhaled it causes first euphoria and intoxication (just like sniffing glue), and then unconsciousness. It doesn't produce these effects when absorbed through the skin. Unconsciousness lasts only as long as the chloroform is presented. Once you take it away, the victim regains consciousness within a matter of minutes.
I've sniffed it recreationally a few times. It's a cheap and stupid high, just like any solvent sniffing. You can get pretty much the same effect by sniffing dry cleaning solvent, which I wouldn't recommend.
Those are the chemical facts. Now, as a topic for erotic fantasy, chloroform is something like hypnosis. Niether would work very well for sex, but people like to imagine that they would because they enjoy the fantasies. The hypnosis fantasy is to have someone under your command, the chloroform fantasy is to have someone totally defenseless. Somewhere I have seen a site for erotic stories that has a "Chloroform" category, but I don't remember where, but the chloroform story usually involves abducting a woman by knocking her unconscious with a rag soaked in chloroform over her mouth and then molesting her in any one of a number of ways while she's out.
This is pure fantasy. It would never work in real life, no more than post-hypnotic suggestion would work. Of course it's ridiculously dangerous in real life, and even if it weren't and you were stupid enough to try this, you'd have to keep putting the rag over her mouth whenever she started coming around and the fumes would get to you as well. Don't even think about it.
So play with it as a fantasy, but understand that that's all it is.
---dr.M.
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