Chicago mayor launches police raid to shut down black church’s sunday services

[SugarDaddy1]

Lightfoot reportedly sent three marked squad cars and two unmarked cars full of officers to the Chicago Cornerstone Baptist Church in the South Side’s Woodlawn neighborhood. Woodlawn is just south of Hyde Park, the area in which the Obamas lived for a short time before Barack became president.

The pastor of the mostly black congregation, Courtney Lewis, reportedly shut and locked the doors and refused to allow the officers to gain entry to the building, Todd Starnes reported.

Pastor Lewis told Starnes that he felt like he was confronting “the Soviet-style KGB” as the officers pounded on his doors and demanded entry to shut the church down.

“Thankfully, our doors were locked as a normal safety precaution we take each service to protect our members from the escalating gun violence in Chicago,” Lewis said

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[SpeareChucker]

She's a mostly black mayor.





What's the problem here?
It's not Racism...

 

[SpeareChucker]

Can you imagine the outcry if INS
tried to violate the sanctuary of the church?





The country would burn.

 

[Misshotndeep]

It's shit like this that piss me off as a black person.
They were illegally gathering. The fact they are black has jack shit to do with the breaking of the law.

 

[SpeareChucker]

It's shit like this that piss me off as a black person.
They were illegally gathering. The fact they are black has jack shit to do with the breaking of the law.

You're black?

That's news to me...

Is there ever a time for civil disobedience?
Openly violating an unjust law?
What would black people

say? or do???

 

[Misshotndeep]

You're black?

That's news to me...

Is there ever a time for civil disobedience?
Openly violating an unjust law?
What would black people

say? or do???

Then go cut out your seat belt, don't bitch about product recalls and ignore FDA regulations on medications. Those are all laws to protect people. They are hindering your personal freedoms. Same as the stay at home order. But let me guess those don't register. SMH

 

[SpeareChucker]

I don't wear a seat belt.




Happy?



My reference is a little more historical.
I did not think that I would have to

spell

it



out


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[hogjack]

Were the churches supporting the Biden vote? If not, well, ya know.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Your trying to make it a racial thing when it is not.
Moral indignation has it's place. This is not it.

 

[SpeareChucker]

How am I trying to make it racist
other than to point out that if it
were not for black churches and
civil rights disobedience you would
still be eating in segregation...



You do not see any parallel here
with a church standing up for
its right to congregate?



???

 

[DeluxAuto]

You do not see any parallel here
with a church standing up for
its right to congregate?

Religious folks can pray anywhere.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Religious folks can pray anywhere.

What a profundity...


How many times have you used it in the last week or two?

But, having said that, why is it that you feel they can pray everywhere but church?
Because it will kill you if they do that prior to visiting a box store?

 

[DeluxAuto]

What a profundity...


How many times have you used it in the last week or two?

But, having said that, why is it that you feel they can pray everywhere but church?
Because it will kill you if they do that prior to visiting a box store?

That's not what I said or implied at all, liar. As long as they are practicing their religion in accordance with current local guidelines, I have no problem what they do.

 

[SpeareChucker]

They do not have the right to struggle/protest against unjust law?




When you say that to a back congregation,
it may bring back memories not al that distant.



Just sayin'...

 

[SpeareChucker]

PS - Nothing in the article specifies which policies they violated...



The mayor and governor just want churches closed.
That was made clear...

But liquor stores being closed,
now that might cause civil unrest...

 

[icanhelp1]

It's shit like this that piss me off as a black person.
They were illegally gathering. The fact they are black has jack shit to do with the breaking of the law.

Or perhaps that dumbass tyrant of a mayor imposed an unconstitutional edict. That dumbass perhaps should work with the parishioners and work on helping to make gatherings safe, encouraging safety protocol rather than shutting things down completely. I'm sure the clergy would work with that dumbass. Be careful you don't confuse law with tyranny.

 

[Misshotndeep]

They do not have the right to struggle/protest against unjust law?




When you say that to a back congregation,
it may bring back memories not al that distant.



Just sayin'...

Actually, somewhere in the book of Mathew it specifically states that location is not of importance to Christian prayer. Something about where three of you are gathered...

They can pray without being in a building.
If they can't even follow their own rules.

 

[Conager]

That's not what I said or implied at all, liar. As long as they are practicing their religion in accordance with current local guidelines, I have no problem what they do.

Same anti-American mindset that approves of reasonable, local, infringement upon your individual, natural right to keep and bear arms that exists without regard to the government one is burdened with, and which is enshrined, in writing in the very document that gives our government any authority at all. Further, the government that specifically was formed to protect those rights and was expressly forbidden to erode them in the least.

Free exercise of religion does not mean "as long as you exercise it in a government approved manner at a place and time allowed by the government.

If you really want to violate people's black letter, constitutionally protected civil rights- don't be a pussy about it; declare martial law and let's revisit the relationship between a government that exists with the consent of the governed, liberty and tyranny.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Same anti-American mindset that approves of reasonable, local, infringement upon your individual, natural right to keep and bear arms that exists without regard to the government one is burdened with, and which is enshrined, in writing in the very document that gives our government any authority at all. Further, the government that specifically was formed to protect those rights and was expressly forbidden to erode them in the least.

Free exercise of religion does not mean "as long as you exercise it in a government approved manner at a place and time allowed by the government.

If you really want to violate people's black letter, constitutionally protected civil rights- don't be a pussy about it; declare martial law and let's revisit the relationship between a government that exists with the consent of the governed, liberty and tyranny.

You are far more anti-American then anything I have seen on here.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Actually, somewhere in the book of Mathew it specifically states that location is not of importance to Christian prayer. Something about where three of you are gathered...

They can pray without being in a building.
If they can't even follow their own rules.

Again, yes they can.
There is also no reason to just close churches and not dens of sin.


Now, in the Old Testament, the Temple was pretty critical to religious identity/community.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Same anti-American mindset that approves of reasonable, local, infringement upon your individual, natural right to keep and bear arms that exists without regard to the government one is burdened with, and which is enshrined, in writing in the very document that gives our government any authority at all. Further, the government that specifically was formed to protect those rights and was expressly forbidden to erode them in the least.

Free exercise of religion does not mean "as long as you exercise it in a government approved manner at a place and time allowed by the government.

If you really want to violate people's black letter, constitutionally protected civil rights- don't be a pussy about it; declare martial law and let's revisit the relationship between a government that exists with the consent of the governed, liberty and tyranny.

Do shut the fuck up. If I have to social distance at the lake and wear a mask in Kroger's then they can do the same. This is you attempting to be an argumentative dumb shit and succeeding. Congrats!

 

[SpeareChucker]

Do shut the fuck up. If I have to social distance at the lake and wear a mask in Kroger's then they can do the same. This is you attempting to be an argumentative dumb shit and succeeding. Congrats!

Why is the assumption then that the church is not (/cannot practice) social distancing and wearing masks?


All they want to do is be treated with the same respect and consideration as "Kroger's."

 

[SpeareChucker]

Isn't it a wonder how all the best rebuttals include preambles
such as "do shut the fuck up?"

 

[FlowersForFun]

It's shit like this that piss me off as a black person.
They were illegally gathering. The fact they are black has jack shit to do with the breaking of the law.

Gathering is a constitutionally protected right.

Neither city mayors nor state governors have the legal authority to prohibit gatherings.


“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Why is the assumption then that the church is not (/cannot practice) social distancing and wearing masks?


All they want to do is be treated with the same respect and consideration as "Kroger's."

You'd be hard pressed to find one church that wants to be treated the same as a business.