Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

BlueSugar

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I saw it.

What you people think?




I walked in and forgot about anything from the origional movie, and still had a hard time enjoying Tim Burton's remake.
I love Burton, I love Depp, the oompa's were a little weird (as they should be) and sadly I haven't read the book so I don't know who is more accurate ... M, Niteloser, her boyfriend and I laughed at all the fucked up parts while all the kiddes and teens laughed where it was more appropriate ... which was the funniest part.

I knew I wouldn't enjoy going on opening night - but ... all in all ... I guess it was ok. Still not as good as Tim could have done on it.

I'm more excited about The Corpse Bride, Burton is going back to his Nightmare befor Christmas roots :)
 
BlueSugar said:
I saw it.

What you people think?




I walked in and forgot about anything from the origional movie, and still had a hard time enjoying Tim Burton's remake.
I love Burton, I love Depp, the oompa's were a little weird (as they should be) and sadly I haven't read the book so I don't know who is more accurate ... M, Niteloser, her boyfriend and I laughed at all the fucked up parts while all the kiddes and teens laughed where it was more appropriate ... which was the funniest part.

I knew I wouldn't enjoy going on opening night - but ... all in all ... I guess it was ok. Still not as good as Tim could have done on it.

I'm more excited about The Corpse Bride, Burton is going back to his Nightmare befor Christmas roots :)
You should of saw Batman Begins instead.
 
BlueSugar said:
I saw it.

What you people think?




I walked in and forgot about anything from the origional movie, and still had a hard time enjoying Tim Burton's remake.
I love Burton, I love Depp, the oompa's were a little weird (as they should be) and sadly I haven't read the book so I don't know who is more accurate ... M, Niteloser, her boyfriend and I laughed at all the fucked up parts while all the kiddes and teens laughed where it was more appropriate ... which was the funniest part.

I knew I wouldn't enjoy going on opening night - but ... all in all ... I guess it was ok. Still not as good as Tim could have done on it.

I'm more excited about The Corpse Bride, Burton is going back to his Nightmare befor Christmas roots :)

You do know that the oompas were done by one guy. Hey was 4 feet tall.
 
BlueSugar said:
I saw it.

What you people think?




I walked in and forgot about anything from the origional movie, and still had a hard time enjoying Tim Burton's remake.
I love Burton, I love Depp, the oompa's were a little weird (as they should be) and sadly I haven't read the book so I don't know who is more accurate ... M, Niteloser, her boyfriend and I laughed at all the fucked up parts while all the kiddes and teens laughed where it was more appropriate ... which was the funniest part.

I knew I wouldn't enjoy going on opening night - but ... all in all ... I guess it was ok. Still not as good as Tim could have done on it.

I'm more excited about The Corpse Bride, Burton is going back to his Nightmare befor Christmas roots :)

Well, I thought it was magnificent, spooky, creepy and subtle. It had everything the book had- the dialogue was verbatim, but Depp delivered in a way I never expected. Which is what I would expect, if I had thought about it! And then Burton added the flashbacks, and made the whole thing that much more literary. The sets, the SETSSSS! were amazing; not just the factory, but Charlie's house, and the town's streets.
Yes, I went with kids- young teens, and to a later show so there were fewer little'uns in the audience. I loved the audience, they were as interesting as the film, groaning when Charlie struck out on his first two candy bars, and booing the people who wanted to buy the ticket from him, and clapping at the end of the first "Willy Wonka" song. And they were silent most of the rest of the time. When Wonka said "how many children are left?" a little girl said "One!" and the audience chuckled. It was a love-fest, I'm telling ye...

I liked it. :cathappy:
 
There has been a lot said in the media about Johnny Depp's characterization of Willy Wonka having been inspired by Michael Jackson. Having now seen the movie, and being 30 something years old, I can tell you his main influence was Carol Burnett not Michael Jackson.

If you're old enough to remember Carol Burnett, listen to Willy Wonka's repeated pronunciation of "little girl." It's so spot on Carol Burnett that it sounds like a sample. He's wearing Carol Burnett's hair too...
 
Hooper_X said:
There has been a lot said in the media about Johnny Depp's characterization of Willy Wonka having been inspired by Michael Jackson. Having now seen the movie, and being 30 something years old, I can tell you his main influence was Carol Burnett not Michael Jackson.

If you're old enough to remember Carol Burnett, listen to Willy Wonka's repeated pronunciation of "little girl." It's so spot on Carol Burnett that it sounds like a sample. He's wearing Carol Burnett's hair too...
Now when I see the movie, I'll miss everything because I'm going to be watching for him to pull on his ear.
 
sticky_keyboard said:
Now when I see the movie, I'll miss everything because I'm going to be watching for him to pull on his ear.

When he says "okay little girl," to Veruca Salt, you're going to have a 1970s flashback.

I enjoyed Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, but not as much as Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory. Johnny Depp was excellent, but the Oompa Lumpas were a disappointment as was the music. And, the ending was extremely anticlimactic compared to the original.
 
Saw it yesterday and LOVED it. I could have done without the music myself, but some of the funniest lines were in the songs. Now I really want to read the book. The first movie didn't make me want to read the book. Plus Johnny Depp is just dreamy.
 
crazybbwgirl said:
Saw it yesterday and LOVED it. I could have done without the music myself, but some of the funniest lines were in the songs. Now I really want to read the book. The first movie didn't make me want to read the book. Plus Johnny Depp is just dreamy.

The original movie was just magical to me as a child, and the music was so incredible. My favorite song was "Pure Imagination" but "The Candy Man" by Sammy Davis Jr. actually became a legitimate hit on the radio. Now that I'm thinkng about it, I'm going to buy the DVD on my lunch hour.
 
Hooper_X said:
There has been a lot said in the media about Johnny Depp's characterization of Willy Wonka having been inspired by Michael Jackson. Having now seen the movie, and being 30 something years old, I can tell you his main influence was Carol Burnett not Michael Jackson.

If you're old enough to remember Carol Burnett, listen to Willy Wonka's repeated pronunciation of "little girl." It's so spot on Carol Burnett that it sounds like a sample. He's wearing Carol Burnett's hair too...

i hadn't heard that but i couldn't stop thinking of MJ during the film. creepy.

i was thinking more carol channing than carol burnett at times
 
Hester said:
i hadn't heard that but i couldn't stop thinking of MJ during the film. creepy.

i was thinking more carol channing than carol burnett at times

The teeth were Carol channingesque, but his voice and mannerism were classic Burnett. I kept expecting Harvey Corman to do a cameo in which he couldn't keep a straight face.
 
Hooper_X said:
The original movie was just magical to me as a child, and the music was so incredible. My favorite song was "Pure Imagination" but "The Candy Man" by Sammy Davis Jr. actually became a legitimate hit on the radio. Now that I'm thinkng about it, I'm going to buy the DVD on my lunch hour.
I bought it too! and "Pure Imagination is a better song, you are so right.
You have excellent taste, I've noticed that before :D

But- I really liked this movie better than the first, overall. And I am a big fan of Danny Elfman. I was around for his very first band, "The Mystic Knights of The Oingo Boingo" which was a jazzy, burlesque sound with a lot of Django Reinhardt, Cab Calloway and Klezmer sounds- and then the "Oingo Boingo" band of the 80's which was new wave/rock- still with some Klezmer influences.
The Oompa Loompa songs in this film were practically a retrospective of his musical life, I got a kick out of that. And Danny did all the vocals, too. He has a terrific voice, with a sneer in it, he would have been a great jazz vocalist.

Depp said he was thinking about Mr Rogers and Captain Kangaroo- I wonder if Carol Burnett was a subconscious thing... or something he isn't admitting to? :rolleyes:
 
Stella_Omega said:
Depp said he was thinking about Mr Rogers and Captain Kangaroo- I wonder if Carol Burnett was a subconscious thing... or something he isn't admitting to? :rolleyes:

I'm inclined to believe that Johnny Depp knows exactly what he's doing acting wise. Incidentally, I just read Roger Ebert's review of Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, and he noticed the Carol Burnett thing too.

"Weird Science" is a favorite song of mine to this day.
 
Hooper_X said:
I'm inclined to believe that Johnny Depp knows exactly what he's doing acting wise. Incidentally, I just read Roger Ebert's review of Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, and he noticed the Carol Burnett thing too.

"Weird Science" is a favorite song of mine to this day.
yeah, Depp is a master craftsman, IMO.
"Weird Science" is good- but of course, nothing as good as some of the unknown album cuts, none of which I can remember at this time!
I was raised without a teevee so I don't really know from Carol Burnett like that. But if you and Roger say so- I believes ya!

I have to say that, although when you think of childish reclusive celebrities with private theme parks, you think of MJ, the poor sod- I did NOT see him in any of Wonka's mannerisms. And "Charlie and The Chocolate Factory" was written decades before Michael began his slide.
And I WANT that top hat!
 
Stella_Omega said:
I have to say that, although when you think of childish reclusive celebrities with private theme parks, you think of MJ, the poor sod- I did NOT see him in any of Wonka's mannerisms. And "Charlie and The Chocolate Factory" was written decades before Michael began his slide.
And I WANT that top hat!

It's been my contention all along that the Depp Jackson comparisons owed more to coincidence and bad timing than any desire on Depp's part to channel Jackson. Additionally, the media can't seem to let go of the fact that Depp used a rock star as his inspiration for this characterization of Capt. Jack Sparrow (whatever) in that pirate movie.

I wouldn't mind having his glasses.
 
phrodeau said:
http://www.funtocollect.com/wonkahat.html

Depp took some of his character from Marilyn Manson.
I'm sort of a MM dummy too, don't know him well enough to recognise the references...

I see I'll have to make my own hat, that one looks like they just ran out quick and reused the Mike Meyers "Cat In The Hat" pattern. :catgrin:
Let's talk about your av, phrodeau, what do you think of Ralph Bakshi? His work stands up better that I thought it would.
 
Hooper_X said:
It's been my contention all along that the Depp Jackson comparisons owed more to coincidence and bad timing than any desire on Depp's part to channel Jackson. Additionally, the media can't seem to let go of the fact that Depp used a rock star as his inspiration for this characterization of Capt. Jack Sparrow (whatever) in that pirate movie.
yep, exactly. Poor Mike! All that talent, and he was a REALLY handsome man before his surgeries started. I would swear that all the nose jobs changed the timbre of his voice, too.
I wouldn't mind having his glasses.
these ones?
 
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