Charles Dickens

sweetnpetite

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OK, some folks may not be a Dickens fan, but I am. I think he's wonderful- imaginative plots, interesting characters and the best names ever.

Fezziwig
Bumble
Mrs Corney
Mrs Mann
Mr Sowerberry
Blathers
Duff
Ham Peggotty
Creakle
Charles Mell
Rosa Dartle
Miss Mowcher
Littimer
Mrs. Crupp
Samuel Pickwick
Nathaniel Winkle
Augustus Snodgrass
Tracy Tupman
Alfred Jingle
Job Trotter
Mr. Wardle
Rachael Wardle
Mrs. Joe Gargery
Wopsle
Uncle Pumblechook
Miss Havisham
Estella
Biddy
Herbert Pocket



the names he picks, reminds me of Roald Dahl and I love him to.

I haven't read even close to all I want of Dickens. I've only read parts of A Christmas Carol and Oliver Twist, but read and loved (one of my favorites) Great Expectations. [hated most of the movie, but loved Estella played so cold and heartless-what can I say, I'd had my own heart broken recently].

I get the sence that he must have had fun writing those crazy stories with those funny names and crazy colorful characters. And still, he put a lot of serious things, such as political and social comentary in them.

I've adopted Charles Dickens as my new literary idol. Although I doubt that my erotic fiction will change much:) But who knows.
 
sweetnpetite said:
OK, some folks may not be a Dickens fan, but I am. I think he's wonderful- imaginative plots, interesting characters and the best names ever.

Fezziwig
Bumble
Mrs Corney
Mrs Mann
Mr Sowerberry
Blathers
Duff
Ham Peggotty
Creakle
Charles Mell
Rosa Dartle
Miss Mowcher
Littimer
Mrs. Crupp
Samuel Pickwick
Nathaniel Winkle
Augustus Snodgrass
Tracy Tupman
Alfred Jingle
Job Trotter
Mr. Wardle
Rachael Wardle
Mrs. Joe Gargery
Wopsle
Uncle Pumblechook
Miss Havisham
Estella
Biddy
Herbert Pocket



the names he picks, reminds me of Roald Dahl and I love him to.

I haven't read even close to all I want of Dickens. I've only read parts of A Christmas Carol and Oliver Twist, but read and loved (one of my favorites) Great Expectations. [hated most of the movie, but loved Estella played so cold and heartless-what can I say, I'd had my own heart broken recently].

I get the sence that he must have had fun writing those crazy stories with those funny names and crazy colorful characters. And still, he put a lot of serious things, such as political and social comentary in them.

I've adopted Charles Dickens as my new literary idol. Although I doubt that my erotic fiction will change much:) But who knows.

Sweet,

I agree, late 19th century/early 20th century lit is the best. One reccomendation, "A Christmas Carol" isant very long. 2 hours straight read at best. On Christmas Eve, when the kids are down (if you have them), turn the tv and read it straight through.
 
Songcatcher said:
Dickins = soap drama
Your point? You might also call "Anna Karenina" or "Portrait of a Lady" such. Hell, the plot of "Hamlet" or "King Lear" would be fine bones to hang a soap on.
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Keep reading Dickens, Sweet. A fave of mine, though not so popular as others, is "Hard Times". Scenes from Dickens (read, not seen on film) have stayed with me as if I'd dreamed them, or as memories near real as my own.

Perdita
 
sweetnpetite said:
OK, some folks may not be a Dickens fan, but I am. I think he's wonderful- imaginative plots, interesting characters and the best names ever.

Fezziwig
Bumble
Mrs Corney
Mrs Mann
Mr Sowerberry
Blathers
Duff
Ham Peggotty
Creakle
Charles Mell
Rosa Dartle
Miss Mowcher
Littimer
Mrs. Crupp
Samuel Pickwick
Nathaniel Winkle
Augustus Snodgrass
Tracy Tupman
Alfred Jingle
Job Trotter
Mr. Wardle
Rachael Wardle
Mrs. Joe Gargery
Wopsle
Uncle Pumblechook
Miss Havisham
Estella
Biddy
Herbert Pocket



the names he picks, reminds me of Roald Dahl and I love him too.
You've got it the wrong way around- Raold Dahl reminds you of Charles Dickens (who, after all, is his predicessor by howver many year) :)
I've adopted Charles Dickens as my new literary idol. Although I doubt that my erotic fiction will change much:) But who knows.
Erotica in Dickens' style. That would be fun to read!
Dickens had a very clear and concise style, too, for his time.
 
Stella_Omega said:
You've got it the wrong way around- Raold Dahl reminds you of Charles Dickens (who, after all, is his predicessor by howver many year) :)
Erotica in Dickens' style. That would be fun to read!
Dickens had a very clear and concise style, too, for his time.


There were a few moments, I felt, in Great Expectations of what would either be erotic or sexual tension between Pip and Estella certainly nothing explicit, but its there and Dickens was capable.

This goes back to a thread awhile back as to why most erotic lit is written porn films as opposed to the old and new masters who seemed to illustrate it so well without being graphic...
 
sweetnpetite said:
OK, some folks may not be a Dickens fan, but I am. I think he's wonderful- imaginative plots, interesting characters and the best names ever.

Fezziwig
Bumble
Mrs Corney
Mrs Mann
Mr Sowerberry
Blathers
Duff
Ham Peggotty
Creakle
Charles Mell
Rosa Dartle
Miss Mowcher
Littimer
Mrs. Crupp
Samuel Pickwick
Nathaniel Winkle
Augustus Snodgrass
Tracy Tupman
Alfred Jingle
Job Trotter
Mr. Wardle
Rachael Wardle
Mrs. Joe Gargery
Wopsle
Uncle Pumblechook
Miss Havisham
Estella
Biddy
Herbert Pocket

< ... snipped .. >

How on earth could you miss out Uriah Heep? Somehow I can't see me ever writing an erotic staory in the style of Dickens with Uriah Heep as a leading character . . .

Well, not as the good guy!

Alex
 
bholderman said:
There were a few moments, I felt, in Great Expectations of what would either be erotic or sexual tension between Pip and Estella certainly nothing explicit, but its there and Dickens was capable.

This goes back to a thread awhile back as to why most erotic lit is written porn films as opposed to the old and new masters who seemed to illustrate it so well without being graphic...

There WAS sexual tension in the movie (1998) version with Ethan Hawke and Gwyneth Paltrow...and Robert DeNiro.

I LOVED the movie...as he was an artist...and the artist they used for his paintings was fantastic (Francesco Clemente)!
 
Songcatcher said:
Dickins = soap drama

Most of his books, when they were published, came out in "numbers," which were short publications of a few chapters each. He had an active correspondance going with many of his readers, and they often influenced what he did with his characters. I've often thought his writing is the 19th-century equivalent of soap opera because of this.

There's an apocryphal story about his writing of The Old Curiosity Shop, whose main character is a tubercular child named Little Nell. The "numbers" were apparently so wildly popular that when they were shipped to America, throngs of people would wait on the dock yelling "Is Little Nell dead yet?"

So your point is well taken. I just don't see it as pejorative. He's my favorite novelist--definitely a hero of mine. He was a prolific writer and a crusader for social justice.

Hi Perdita. :kiss:
 
Angeline said:
Most of his books, when they were published, came out in "numbers," which were short publications of a few chapters each. He had an active correspondance going with many of his readers, and they often influenced what he did with his characters. I've often thought he was the 19th-century equivalent of a soap opera because of this.

There's an apocryphal story about his writing of The Old Curiosity Shop, whose main character is a tubercular child named Little Nell. The "numbers" were apparently so wildly popular that when they were shipped to America, throngs of people would wait on the dock yelling "Is Little Nell dead yet?"

So your point is well taken. I just don't see it as pejorative. He's my favorite novelist--definitely a hero of mine. He was a prolific writer and a crusader for social justice.

Hi Perdita. :kiss:

Angeline,

Thanks for the reminder, I often forget that most "books" were first published by chapters iin the magazines of the times. I recall the flap over Doyale killing off Sherlock Holmes at Reichenbach Falls...
 
Alex De Kok said:
How on earth could you miss out Uriah Heep? Somehow I can't see me ever writing an erotic staory in the style of Dickens with Uriah Heep as a leading character . . .

Well, not as the good guy!

Alex

He is so manipulative in his begging, scraping way. I can't figure out if he'd be a secret sub or dom.

And what about Pip? Joe Gargery? And poor sweet Smike in Nicholas Nickleby?

I do love Charles Dickens. :D
 
bholderman said:
Angeline,

Thanks for the reminder, I often forget that most "books" were first published by chapters iin the magazines of the times. I recall the flap over Doyale killing off Sherlock Holmes at Reichenbach Falls...

You're welcome. It is, to me, a fascinating bit of history. :)
 
I always forget just how funny Dickens is until I open up the book again. Even in something as savage, in parts, as "Hard Times," there are brilliant strokes of wit all through.

Personally, the erotic novel I want to read is Sissy Jupe finally throwing off her prissy good-little-girl obsession and carrying on a wild, kinky, secret affair with Jem Harthouse - preferably out in the fields and barns and hedgerows and everywhere they can get their hands on each other with risk of discovery. But then, I never could resist the name "Jem."

Pumblechook. Best. Name. Ever.

Shanglan
 
(That said, I have to agree with Oscar Wilde ...)

"It would take a heart of stone not to laugh at the death of Little Nell."
 
No Droods Allowed?

sweetnpetite said:
OK, some folks may not be a Dickens fan, but I am. I think he's wonderful- imaginative plots, interesting characters and the best names ever.

Fezziwig
Bumble
Mrs Corney
Mrs Mann
Mr Sowerberry
Blathers
Duff
Ham Peggotty
Creakle
Charles Mell
Rosa Dartle
Miss Mowcher
Littimer
Mrs. Crupp
Samuel Pickwick
Nathaniel Winkle
Augustus Snodgrass
Tracy Tupman
Alfred Jingle
Job Trotter
Mr. Wardle
Rachael Wardle
Mrs. Joe Gargery
Wopsle
Uncle Pumblechook
Miss Havisham
Estella
Biddy
Herbert Pocket



the names he picks, reminds me of Roald Dahl and I love him to.

I haven't read even close to all I want of Dickens. I've only read parts of A Christmas Carol and Oliver Twist, but read and loved (one of my favorites) Great Expectations. [hated most of the movie, but loved Estella played so cold and heartless-what can I say, I'd had my own heart broken recently].

I get the sence that he must have had fun writing those crazy stories with those funny names and crazy colorful characters. And still, he put a lot of serious things, such as political and social comentary in them.

I've adopted Charles Dickens as my new literary idol. Although I doubt that my erotic fiction will change much:) But who knows.


So what's wrong with the name Edwin Drood--Dickensian as all hell, it seems to me.
 
BlackShanglan said:
"It would take a heart of stone not to laugh at the death of Little Nell."
One of my very fave quotes of O.W.'s. Made me grin (again). P.

(Hi Angeline :kiss: )
 
bholderman said:
There were a few moments, I felt, in Great Expectations of what would either be erotic or sexual tension between Pip and Estella certainly nothing explicit, but its there and Dickens was capable.

This goes back to a thread awhile back as to why most erotic lit is written porn films as opposed to the old and new masters who seemed to illustrate it so well without being graphic...
Well, I don't think many old masters did illustrate it at all well. That's why I write graphically. Sexual content is missing in too many of the classics. Tension- certainly- but the release of tension can move a plot forward. And it doesn't, not in Austin, Dickens, Swift, Burns...
 
Mr. Dickens was my inspiration for last years Holiday contest. Love that man. :heart:
 
the artfull dodger
bill sykes
"bulldog"
fagin

my four favorite characters..ever..of all time..
 
Alex De Kok said:
How on earth could you miss out Uriah Heep? Somehow I can't see me ever writing an erotic staory in the style of Dickens with Uriah Heep as a leading character . . .

Well, not as the good guy!

Alex

When I first saw the list of names, I wondered that too. I like Scrooge and Fagin too, although that is partly because those names are now part of the English language.
 
Books

I still have a large pile of 19th century quarter-bound leather Chapman & Hall Dickens editions in Quarto size and a long run of Household Words.

I am thinking of putting them on eBay. The only thing deterring me is pricing the cost of postage or shipping. They are large and heavy.

Some time ago I sold a complete set of The Times' History of World War I. The parcel weighed 35 kilos. I lost money on the shipping charges.

Og
 
I am thinking of putting them on eBay. The only thing deterring me is pricing the cost of postage or shipping. They are large and heavy.

doesn't the buyer pay shipping?

Here in the U.S. you could ship them "media mail" which is cheaper... I don't know if there's anything comparable in the UK...
 
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