Cesar Millan - Child Whisperer... ;) ;)

[4est_4est_Gump]

I've been saying for some time that I learned my parenting skills from watching Cesar train people to live with their dogs. I have one well-behaved kid.

While American parents in general and our author in particular seem to struggle with getting their children to behave, the French have deftly identified for these poor people the (obvious) source of the problem: allowing the children to be in charge. The consequences of this unnatural order of things elude the French's American counterparts.

After a while, it struck me that most French descriptions of American kids include this phrase "n'importe quoi," meaning "whatever" or "anything they like." It suggests that the American kids don't have firm boundaries, that their parents lack authority, and that anything goes. It's the antithesis of the French ideal of the cadre, or frame, that French parents often talk about. Cadre means that kids have very firm limits about certain things -- that's the frame -- and that the parents strictly enforce these. But inside the cadre, French parents entrust their kids with quite a lot of freedom and autonomy.

Wow! This is almost like rocket science or something! Maybe the French really are better than we are! Wait, there's more.

Authority is one of the most impressive parts of French parenting -- and perhaps the toughest one to master. Many French parents I meet have an easy, calm authority with their children that I can only envy.

Ah, there's the rub: authority. For a large segment of American parents, authority is anathema, associated with mental rigidity and the exertion of illegitimate power and control. Why this distorted view? Thank our twelve- to eighteen-year public liberal-emersion education system. Those who fall sway to this indoctrination program emerge as liberal adults fully invested in liberalism's first principles: equality, fairness, and non-judgmentalism.

Liberal parents attempt to raise their offspring according to these guiding principles (unlike their conservative peers, who managed to escape with their critical thinking skills intact and raise their kids...well, more like the French do). For liberals, the highest moral standard is fairness, and there is no sin greater than being judgmental.

As parents, they find themselves in constant conflict with their key values. Exercising parental authority to exert control over their children requires inequality of treatment on occasion and near-constant judmentalism. No wonder liberal parents are always stressed. And no wonder the author envies the French, who, au contraire, are genetically judgmental and have no problem whatsoever with authority.

Their kids actually listen to them. French children aren't constantly dashing off, talking back, or engaging in prolonged negotiations.

So what exactly is it about French parenting that is superior? This is what I gather: they are not uncomfortable treating their children like untrained puppies until such time as the children have learned to stop peeing in the house. Which is to say: French parents assume the role of alpha dog with their children rather than the other way around

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012..._american_parents_inferior.html#ixzz1mjwivqJZ

Now, my wife's kid isn't always as well behaved because the tail has learned to wag the dog.

 

[rosco rathbone]

"There can never be any regular government of a nation without a marked subordination of mother and children to the father" John Adams

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Finest Hops

Samuel Adams


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"As soon as we abandon our own reason, and are content to rely upon authority, there is no end to our troubles."
Bertrand Russell

 

[RoryN]

I have one well-behaved kid.

I'm sure I speak for a number of members when I say that I'm very sorry to hear you have a child.

But then I'm reminded that you're probably lying.

 

[rosco rathbone]

My personal inclination is for authoritarian parenting because I can't stand disrespectful disobedient kids. My brother and his wife are helicopter parents (and both college professors natch) and I don't like to see it. I think it leads to pussification of their son. On the other hand, people have been complaining about permissive parenting since at least that Adams quote in 1803 or whatever.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm sure I speak for a number of members when I say that I'm very sorry to hear you have a child.

But then I'm reminded that you're probably lying.

Thank you White Nigger for your continued positive vibes...

Keep up the good work, there's Affirmative Action battles to be fought all over the board in the name of Entertainment Tonight and MTV.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

My personal inclination is for authoritarian parenting because I can't stand disrespectful disobedient kids. My brother and his wife are helicopter parents (and both college professors natch) and I don't like to see it. I think it leads to pussification of their son. On the other hand, people have been complaining about permissive parenting since at least that Adams quote in 1803 or whatever.

Isn't the original lament in Greek?

 

[RoryN]

Thank you White Nigger for your continued positive vibes...

Keep up the good work, there's Affirmative Action battles to be fought all over the board in the name of Entertainment Tonight and MTV.

Has anyone else on this board ever had the "expose yourself" bait that I'm able to put on the hook? It's like magic.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Has anyone else on this board ever had the "expose yourself" bait that I'm able to put on the hook? It's like magic.

If being delusional is what you consider magic, then buddy, you're a freaking Wizard...



:nods:

 

[Saint Peter]

(and both college professors natch)

I had to google natch.


I feel so old.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I had to google natch.


I feel so old.

I think he just missed the s...




It's from the German natürlich...

 

[rosco rathbone]

The best parent I know is my friend R. All his interactions with his son take the form of "ok, I'm going to fix the roof/mow the north 40/chainsaw this log/excavate a pond and you can tag along". He's always doing something, and his son is always involved, even if it's just sitting between his legs in the tractor seat. There's no "fuck, now I have to take time out from Facebook to pretend to be interested in playing with these stupid action figures" or whatever.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The best parent I know is my friend R. All his interactions with his son take the form of "ok, I'm going to fix the roof/mow the north 40/chainsaw this log/excavate a pond and you can tag along". He's always doing something, and his son is always involved, even if it's just sitting between his legs in the tractor seat. There's no "fuck, now I have to take time out from Facebook to pretend to be interested in playing with these stupid action figures" or whatever.

This is a good method, but have you not seen lately the push against these clear violations of child labor law? Stuff like this is why OSHA was created.

 

[Bidin~Time]

If a Man Answers, 1962

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If a Man Answers, 1962

If a Woman Answers, 25or6to4?

 

[Bidin~Time]

When your pet comes when called, make sure to lavish praise on him.

or something to that effect.

works beautifully 'til they figure it out.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

When your pet comes when called, make sure to lavish praise on him.

or something to that effect.

works beautifully 'til they figure it out.

That does not work with Dachshunds unless it is very cold outside.

They come when they are damned well ready.

Like my wife...

 

[Bidin~Time]

Dachshunds are not normal canines.

They are miniature dictators merely disguised as dogs.

Their dachshundness gives them away

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Dachshunds are not normal canines.

They are miniature dictators merely disguised as dogs.

Their dachshundness gives them away

I swear to Gawd there's some weasel in the woodpile!

 

[Bidin~Time]

I swear to Gawd there's some weasel in the woodpile!

It's that sitty-uppy thing they do, isn't it?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's that sitty-uppy thing they do, isn't it?

That and demoling the entire yard...


It's like the surface of an asteroid around here.