CDC: We were wrong about China virus deaths

[OldJourno]

The number is actually 9,210

It's not 153,000, the number that scares the shit out of so many people. The 153,000 who had Covid-19, but it didn't kill them.

It seems to me we can get back to life as it is supposed to be lived.
Mask optional.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's about damned time that Trump-appointed administrators "adjusted" that number! The original number represented a "clear and present danger" to Trump's re-election chances!

 

[jaF0]

The number is actually 9,210

It's not 153,000, the number that scares the shit out of so many people. The 153,000 who had Covid-19, but it didn't kill them.

It seems to me we can get back to life as it is supposed to be lived.
Mask optional.

Hey OldShit, CounselBore beat you to it:

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1530473

 

[OldJourno]

Link please?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/...dbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI

 

[OldJourno]

Hey OldShit, CounselBore beat you to it:

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1530473

Two people here ruined your day with good news.

 

[silver gurl]

So the rest of the world it is a hoax as well...

 

[jaF0]

Two people here ruined your day with good news.

Read my post over there Juice.

And tell us what you did to Nicole.

 

[Conager]

The headline is hyperbolic. The official didn't outright admit any such thing, but the methodology used she details has manipulated the numbers exactly as suggested.

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/maricopa-county-health-official-admits-manipulating-covid-19-deaths/amp/?fbclid=IwAR2nFkrdTVRL7hih48eH4NWCafBoXazIrOC9i_JuUU25bI6HYgb29iR43ic

 

[Adre]

You just knew it would come to this. The BIG LIE. My wife literally just heard a woman in a shop complaining about her mask when “only 9000 people have died.”

 

[rockcasbah]

You just knew it would come to this. The BIG LIE. My wife literally just heard a woman in a shop complaining about her mask when “only 9000 people have died.”

Is she bringing her home so you can “respect” her?

 

[Conager]

No, the "Big Lie" was that healthy people are significant vectors for Covid. They are not. The CDC admitted as much, then did a tepid, non-walk-back walk-back saying it "may" be a concern with zero evidence to back that up. Major contact tracing study in China backs that up. No contact tracing study has found significant transmission by asymptomatic carriers. No epidemiologist claims that anything short of significant contact (i.e 15 minutes in close proximity) with a carrier is likely to result in infection.

The Big Lie was to justify quarantine of healtht people which has never been done as a control measure before, and it has little to no effect on outcomes.

Masks are the Big Lie fig leaf to reverse course on the damage caused by Big Lie #1. Rather than simply admit that asymptomatic carriers were never a significant concern and that although you should stay home if you are feeling poorly, if you are not febrile and have no symptoms- there is no reason not to resume your life. Masks are to get people to resume life with a security blanket that has no effect on aerosolized droplets light enough not to simply fall to the ground.

 

[adrina]

The report doesn't say what you think it does.

 

[jaF0]

Like I said in the other thread .... it's all been crap from the beginning. The Governors fucked up and need to be made to pay with their jobs.

 

[rockcasbah]

This is all going to make a really good Michael Moore movie in a few years.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The CDC and the FDA have been drug down into the SWAMP by Tricky Trumpy.

Just wait until the rushed vaccine is released. Be first in line.

 

[Liar]

Wait, are you all spazzing the fuck out over a report that says nothing new and nothing surprising?

 

[rockcasbah]

CBD and nanotrackers, USPS next day delivery.

Everyone docile and mapped.

 

[adrina]

Wait, are you all spazzing the fuck out over a report that says nothing new and nothing surprising?

Yes.

They're being told it's saying something different than what it says.

Shocking I know.

 

[silver gurl]

A clip, not from me:
"A lot of news articles are claiming that “94% of COVID-19 deaths were due to a comorbidity according to the CDC.” That is NOT what the CDC published. They wrote that most of the deaths were from respiratory or cardiac failure which is CAUSED by COVID-19. The report stated that only 6% of deaths had COVID-19 listed as the only cause, which we all know isn’t true.

Type 1 diabetes itself doesn’t cause immediate death (at least in today’s world, we have all kinds of human insulin available for treatment). What generally kills a diabetic is heart disease, infections, and several other conditions.

This means 94 percent of people who died of the virus in the US had other conditions, which contributed to their death in addition to COVID-19.

This information is what public health officials have stated since the pandemic began – people with underlying health conditions are at higher risk of complications and death due to the coronavirus.

The CDC statistic does not mean that 94 percent of people listed as COVID-19 deaths are listed incorrectly. It means 94 percent of people died of COVID-19 and something else.

Because amateurs are interpreting complex science to further their goals that COVID-19 isn’t dangerous, we get this garbage information. They want to believe that COVID-19 is only dangerous to the elderly and those with comorbidities. Those people do have a higher risk, but the Rona has killed people across the health spectrum.

So if a death certificate says COVID-19 AND respiratory failure, the damn virus caused the respiratory failure."

 

[PaxNurgle]

The number is actually 9,210

It's not 153,000, the number that scares the shit out of so many people. The 153,000 who had Covid-19, but it didn't kill them.

It seems to me we can get back to life as it is supposed to be lived.
Mask optional.

No.

The actual number of infected people in the US is well over FIVE MILLION and counting. The death toll is officially 182,000 and counting.
I hate to be the one spreading pessimism and despair because there is more than enough of that going around.

But there is so much blatant DIS information being spread on this very board that I feel obliged to step in and correct it. I wish your statistics were true, by the way. But the official CDC site says otherwise. See the link below. (Oh and don't give me that "Fake News" garbage because you would prefer the CDC statistics not to be true. Because I hear plenty of THAT garbage on this site as well.)

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tr...019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html#cases

 

[Conager]

Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[butters]

A clip, not from me:
"A lot of news articles are claiming that “94% of COVID-19 deaths were due to a comorbidity according to the CDC.” That is NOT what the CDC published. They wrote that most of the deaths were from respiratory or cardiac failure which is CAUSED by COVID-19. The report stated that only 6% of deaths had COVID-19 listed as the only cause, which we all know isn’t true.

Type 1 diabetes itself doesn’t cause immediate death (at least in today’s world, we have all kinds of human insulin available for treatment). What generally kills a diabetic is heart disease, infections, and several other conditions.

This means 94 percent of people who died of the virus in the US had other conditions, which contributed to their death in addition to COVID-19.

This information is what public health officials have stated since the pandemic began – people with underlying health conditions are at higher risk of complications and death due to the coronavirus.

The CDC statistic does not mean that 94 percent of people listed as COVID-19 deaths are listed incorrectly. It means 94 percent of people died of COVID-19 and something else.

Because amateurs are interpreting complex science to further their goals that COVID-19 isn’t dangerous, we get this garbage information. They want to believe that COVID-19 is only dangerous to the elderly and those with comorbidities. Those people do have a higher risk, but the Rona has killed people across the health spectrum.

So if a death certificate says COVID-19 AND respiratory failure, the damn virus caused the respiratory failure."

all of the above. the deniers, the ignorant, the deliberate spreaders of misinterpreted information? they choose to believe and/or use a false interpretation.

 

[butters]

You just knew it would come to this. The BIG LIE. My wife literally just heard a woman in a shop complaining about her mask when “only 9000 people have died.”

and the holocaust didn't happen either, according to some even now.

and the only reason this has been allowed to be broadcast to spread like wildfire is down to bad leadership... bad leadership that sidelines the experts, denies the scientific facts/extrapolations of these, rolls in the mud with conspiracy theories and generally plays to the lowest common denominator of its supporters.

 

[Conager]

Absolutely!

A true leader would have kommissars and a network of very aware Karens looking out to nip disinformation in the bud. Offenders could be sent to camp for reeducation and the gulag for the especially stubborn!

Good thing you only listen to all the very best experts who are never wrong and are generous enough to share your bounty of truths gleaned from these wondrous experts.

Too many people listen to credentialed experts in the fields they are renderening an opinion on when you can just tell they don't know what the hell they are talking about. There is no reason for a so-called expert, regardless of his area of expertise or credentials to disagree with the consensus view. This is how science and medicine works! You build consensus and you suppress those that are spouting false narratives!

 

[PaxNurgle]

^I believe it was you who stated that coronavirus cannot be spread by asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic people. Hence, you are guilty of spreading disinformation as well.

As it has been repeatedly demonstrated and proven by medical experts (you know, people with actual degrees in medicine, biology, and study of infectious diseases) that the majority of cases are spread exactly by that method.

For what it's worth, We all wish you were right on that. I would rather believe you than the experts, because it would be so much easier to avoid catching or spreading the virus if only symptomatic people could spread it. However, there is a reason you are not a microbiologist- because your belief, wishful though it is, is not correct.