CBT. Warning: explicit.

[Licia]

After hearing the hub's view on the power of a blindfold, I decided to give CBT an elementary round.

Impromtu as the session was, the only bondage device which came to mind was the scrunchie I had in my hair. Ripping it free from my curls, I wound the piece around the base of his cock. Before I could ask if it were too tight, he exclaimed over the sensation. "Mmk then. Tighter bondage!"

Three-fingered sharp slaps delivered to the frenum harmonised with bondage and induced a near climax. My goal is tantric in nature, but I wanted to change bondage direction: balls!

Those boys were hiding. Meh. I stretched the scrotum down a bit, but fearing testicular torsion I changed direction once again and wound a tight bond around both the penis and the scrotum together. Semi-compliance met, his testicles were subjected to light fingernail scratches, finger tapping, etc tmi.

I've been wondering if new shoelaces would work well for CBT. I've also been pondering: stretch the scrotum while the business is flaccid?

Channeling tantra through bdsm, I'm trying to teach him orgasm control. I think there may be a connection with him being able to control his erection, but I'm not entirely sure.

This site helps with saftey concerns.

My questions: is it best to begin CBT while the penis is flaccid? Do shoestrings sound like a safe alternative to the more traditional method? Anyone have any personal experience they care to share?

 

[desertslave]

Cockrings are a very, very good thing.

I would be concerned with shoelaces unless they were the thick round type. Hair elastics, especially those which have lost some of their rebound, would be better. It's VERY important to check on circulation regularly and frequently.

The most user-friendly ones I've used are adjustable straps of a non-stretchy fabric (or leather) with multi-sized straps. Easy to put on and to remove, just in case. Most good toy sites carry something similar.

Oh, and YES, starting with a flaccid member works best.

Have fun!

 

[BiBunny]

Shoelaces work well. So do hairbands, as you've already discovered. You can use more than one at a time to change the tightness of the bands. I never have found a cock ring that worked like it was supposed to.

And if you're binding his cock, definitely don't tie it up (at least not tightly) while it's still soft, or you run the risk of it being way too damn tight when he does get a full erection.

 

[Shankara20]

You might find some info in this old thread...

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I'll try to offer some more suggestions in a little while.

 

[Licia]

Thanks for the replies.

desert and Bunny, cockrings: I lack experience. We've played with the jelly type, but they seemed the dud in the lot of fireworks. Two twists are nigh impossibile for function. Metal: beyond my current comfort zone, but we're progressing. Leather: he hasn't earned that fetish yet. Maybe rubber gates could work? I guess I could ask google if any non-latex sort are made since I'm allergic.

Chastity coercion has been in the works for quite a while, but I do want to have symmetrical CBT before the lock and key mechanic.

Shank, you've helped to organize my dungeon! Do come back as time allows.

I think I will bring up how-to's with the home (mountain munch) group after the preliminaries are satisfied.

 

[alwaysknow]

Quick question - what is the relationship between your "hub's view on the power of a blindfold" and "CBT an elementary round."?

 

[Licia]

Quick question - what is the relationship between your "hub's view on the power of a blindfold" and "CBT an elementary round."?

He described himself as shy and easily spooked. Twas framed around a stallion rationale: strong and independent, but a horse sometimes needs blinders so it doesn't freak out. Phrasing his preference another way so that I could understand, he laid it out simply, "If I can't see them, they can't see me."

There have been a few snags as play intensifies because I did not understand what he would not articulate: I need a blindfold, visual deprivation. Why is always my next question, and the honesty surrounding the query used to cause him anxiety. He would have to admit his own sexuality.

We've played at extremely light CBT over the years: after a shower, I would use a few fingers to press an erection downward, suspend wet towels from the member, grab hold and squeeze his cock, or constrict the scrotum with my hand. His positive biological reactions (smiles and a playful demeanor) revealed the truth of what his lips would not; however, fear over the activity was obvious.

In the end I had to be absoluetly sure he wasn't trying to use the blindfold as a metaphor for non-consent. He must earn that substyle.

The easiest answer to the question posed--training purposes.

 

[smallbreastman]

in the past few weeks i have found myself getting more and more into cbt, i find tying my balls apart , squeezing them and whipping them such a massive turn on, i have used candle wax,squash boards,elastic bands , many other things as well. i always thought of this as a sick thing to do, but once you try,and if you like, go for it...for me pain goes with pleasure.

 

[Licia]

in the past few weeks i have found myself getting more and more into cbt, i find tying my balls apart , squeezing them and whipping them such a massive turn on, i have used candle wax,squash boards,elastic bands , many other things as well. i always thought of this as a sick thing to do, but once you try,and if you like, go for it...for me pain goes with pleasure.

My sadistic personality is married to the d/s dynamic, and men are my primary attraction--conventional etiquette tethered me to misery. I am neither a masochist or a switch, so I, too, broke the bonds; albeit early.

Culture being what it is, I think sub/masochist men are misunderstood and mischaracterized by society as often as domme/sadistic women are. Preconcieved notions or judgements can inflame the problem, so good for you for casting off the dead weight.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I recently listened to a lecture on CBT, which went into SO MUCH detail on anatomy that a lot of people were yawning-- but not me. I listened with all my ears. because of course, if I had that junk on my own body, I'd be torturing it all the time.

The two most dangerous things to do are these;

The top of the shaft is where two corpus cavernosum are, one on each side of center, and running all the way to the head.. The site OP linked to said they are spongy tissue, but that is not true: They are truly "caverns" meaning empty sacks made of very strong, very stretchy version of blood vessel walls, that literally fill up with blood like a hydraulic lift.

These guys have a sphincter that cannot control blood filling them, but does prevent it from draining until orgasm releases them. The thing is-- IF the walls of the corpus cavernosum are ever pierced or cut, a man can bleed to death. So keep needles shallow on the upper shaft, for instance. Never poke straight in. And if blood keeps on welling up from the upper shaft, think about going to ER.

The other big danger is to the testicles. They can take ungodly amounts of rough handling, but-- Each one has a little ligament that comes from the center front, and attaches to the frontal part of the scrotum. They keep the testicles in place, and if on gets torn loose, there will be nothing to prevent it from, for instance, twisting until the duct twists closed-- which Ive been told is extraordinarily painful and a matter for ER. So-- when you're playing with the scrotum, you can pull the sides out to make a butterfly, you can flatten it like a pancake, between two boards, clothespin it, whatever you can think of-- but do not pull the front of the scrotum away from the balls inside it.

Keeping those two things in mind, and of course sanitation and hygiene -- and limits-- have at it

 

[Licia]

I recently listened to a lecture on CBT, which went into SO MUCH detail on anatomy that a lot of people were yawning-- but not me. I listened with all my ears. because of course, if I had that junk on my own body, I'd be torturing it all the time.

I hear ya. Those ...things... fascinate me, sadistic mad-scientist style. Maybe not your cup 'o joe. *shrugs*

The two most dangerous things to do are these;

The top of the shaft is where two corpus cavernosum are, one on each side of center, and running all the way to the head.. The site OP linked to said they are spongy tissue, but that is not true: They are truly "caverns" meaning empty sacks made of very strong, very stretchy version of blood vessel walls, that literally fill up with blood like a hydraulic lift.

Yes, I've noticed them. They resemble the inner tubing of a tire when viewing the 90 degree erect penis from naked eye perspective (I think). If memory serves correctly, during my light anatomy studies I seem to recall that a penis is contracted while flaccid; relaxed while erect. Eh, I'll have to dig through my books.

These guys have a sphincter that cannot control blood filling them, but does prevent it from draining until orgasm releases them. The thing is-- IF the walls of the corpus cavernosum are ever pierced or cut, a man can bleed to death. So keep needles shallow on the upper shaft, for instance. Never poke straight in. And if blood keeps on welling up from the upper shaft, think about going to ER.

Thanks for bringing this up. We're a far cry from needles, but possibilities are bouncing around in my thoughts.

I was a bit shocked by how much his perception of pain transformed into pleasure in conjunction with the blindfold, so safety is a major concern right now. He had raspberry action displayed from the frenum, 360 to the tip of the glans.

The other big danger is to the testicles. They can take ungodly amounts of rough handling, but-- Each one has a little ligament that comes from the center front, and attaches to the frontal part of the scrotum. They keep the testicles in place, and if on gets torn loose, there will be nothing to prevent it from, for instance, twisting until the duct twists closed-- which Ive been told is extraordinarily painful and a matter for ER. So-- when you're playing with the scrotum, you can pull the sides out to make a butterfly, you can flatten it like a pancake, between two boards, clothespin it, whatever you can think of-- but do not pull the front of the scrotum away from the balls inside it.

Luckily, I read up on exactly what you have bolded before taking on more serious experimentation. I noticed another issue with the original link to safety concerns with the OP: something about twisting the balls. I don't think that's wise with the danger of testicular torsion. That site appears less than reliable.

Keeping those two things in mind, and of course sanitation and hygiene -- and limits-- have at it

Definitely. Thanks.

 

[Shankara20]

[/B] So keep needles shallow on the upper shaft, for instance.

(photos on request )

Never poke straight in.

 

[Shankara20]

Yes, I've noticed them. They resemble the inner tubing of a tire when viewing the 90 degree erect penis from naked eye perspective (I think).

You might be thinking about the urethra, the tube often visible running the length of a penis along the bottom. Insertion play using sounds is another topic all together. There are risks that we can discuss if you are
interested.

 

[Licia]

(photos on request )

*hands forming a tent as her elbows rest against the arms of her chair, she states matter-of-factly*

"Science is nothing without the use of visual aids and diagrams."

...mahaha...

 

[Shankara20]

*hands forming a tent as her elbows rest against the arms of her chair, she states matter-of-factly*

"Science is nothing without the use of visual aids and diagrams."

...mahaha...

it will be a day or two, perhaps, but photos on the way....

 

[Stella_Omega]

You might be thinking about the urethra, the tube often visible running the length of a penis along the bottom. Insertion play using sounds is another topic all together. There are risks that we can discuss if you are
interested.

regard; the corpus cavernosum.

Ive had sounding done on my female parts: it didn't hurt or anything, but it isn't nearly as much fun as the men seem to have with theirs.

 

[Shankara20]

Ive had sounding done on my female parts: it didn't hurt or anything, but it isn't nearly as much fun as the men seem to have with theirs.

This is a often heard comment. I expect it has to do with the penis being a lovely sensation collecting device and insertion play impacts the full length of it.

I do experience some pain, in the most delightful use of the word, at the start of insertion play, as well as burning urination for a day or so after sounds play. I have come to enjoy that pain as well.

 

[Licia]

You might be thinking about the urethra, the tube often visible running the length of a penis along the bottom. Insertion play using sounds is another topic all together. There are risks that we can discuss if you are
interested.

Hmm.

Let me try and offer a disected 90 degree erection diagram.

trunk: \ . /

glans: /`\

shaft: |()I()|

The flaccid 0 degree diagram:

trunk: \ . /

shaft: |()I()|

glans: \ , /

While "I" is the urethra, "()" is the inner tubing or cavernous tissue which has been mentioned?

Yes, I'm interested in insertion play as several body ...appendages... have already explored the territory. What are the risks involving sounds?

 

[Licia]

regard; the corpus cavernosum.

Ive had sounding done on my female parts: it didn't hurt or anything, but it isn't nearly as much fun as the men seem to have with theirs.

Well that was much easier than my diagraming, thanks.

 

[Stella_Omega]

This is a often heard comment. I expect it has to do with the penis being a lovely sensation collecting device and insertion play impacts the full length of it.

Yep. Women have all of their sensation collecting material concentrated in a few areas-- which paradoxically, allows women to feel sensation in more diffused and prolonged ways. Except for sounding. The top tried a vibrating sound on me, and when she used it to press my urethra against my pubic bone-- that felt pretty good, but then any sort of vibration does. We wanted to see if she could stimulate a Gspot from the inside. It didn't work that time, but I have a feeling that, if there were something inserted into the vag at the same time-- we might have gotten somewhere. Like maybe the stratosphere!

Hmm. Whoah. gotta investigate that now. For, you know-- science.

I do experience some pain, in the most delightful use of the word, at the start of insertion play, as well as burning urination for a day or so after sounds play. I have come to enjoy that pain as well.

You dog you-- Pavlovian, of course.

 

[Shankara20]

"Science is nothing without the use of visual aids and diagrams."

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my custom made wand for long term insertion play

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While "I" is the urethra, "()" is the inner tubing or cavernous tissue which has been mentioned?

In general the urethra is located below the two "tubs" sorta like

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What are the risks involving sounds?

Serious infection risk and risk of tearing inner surfaces. I consider this edge play and requires research, education, and training and safe practice.

There is material I can share about safe sound play if you wish.

 

[Shankara20]

but I have a feeling that, if there were something inserted into the vag at the same time-- we might have gotten somewhere. Like maybe the stratosphere!

Wow! Did it just get very very hot in here???

You dog you-- Pavlovian, of course.

Wolf!

 

[Shankara20]

So keep needles shallow on the upper shaft, for instance. B]do not pull the front of the scrotum away from the balls inside it. [/B]

Again - if the skin is opened, it is edge play and must be approached this education and safe play rules...

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[Stella_Omega]

Wow. what's your tumblr, so I can follow it?

 

[Shankara20]

After hearing the hub's view on the power of a blindfold, I decided to give CBT an elementary round.

So on the way home tonight I asked myself "What Would Shank Do" with a cock and balls presented while the owner of said equipment was restrained?

After a moment or two my mind offered up a list of things to consider bringing to the party that was about to start:

cloths pins
Tiger Balm
banjo picks
ice
candles for hot wax play
stiff brush
makeup brush
and I know there are more items.​

Anything here we want to discuss?