Catholic Priests

[Jud]

What should a Catholic Priest do when his pecker gets hard?

 

[MissTaken]

What he should do? Pray, or so the church teaches.

What should he be allowed to do? Have a life partner/wife. He should be able not only to relieve himself, but set forth a model example of love, commitment and a healthy union under God.


Just my two cents.

 

[Jud]

They have a real problem. The church says they are married to the church. But that doesn't take the sex drive out of person. I think priests should be allowed to mary.

 

[TeenSub]

Hey, he's wearing a collar, it's kinky

I just wish the priest at my church wanted to fuck my little Catholic schoolgirl pussy, rather than the stupid choirboys...
Molestation of children=bad
Cock Knocking Gabriel Byrne as his fatherly Stigmata character=goooood!
TeenSub

 

[RasputinGrigori]

You're Right!

What he should do? Pray, or so the church teaches.

What should he be allowed to do? Have a life partner/wife. He should be able not only to relieve himself, but set forth a model example of love, commitment and a healthy union under God.


Just my two cents.

You are RIGHT, MissTaken! Priests should be allowed to marry - not just (as in the Eastern Orthodox churches) permit married men to be ordained to the priesthood. And lets go even further: let gay priests enter into permanent unions with a partner. And, yes, lets not limit the priesthood to men only: women too!

The Catholic Church's position of sexuality - though it rightly stresses the value of fidelity - also needs to be rethought considerably: sexuality should be seen as something developmental (ie one grows into one's sexual identity; we learn often by our mistakes, etc); it is also NOT true that all sex must be open to procreation - its primarily about growth in relationship.

The Church needs to get its act together. Pedophilia is a symptom of a much greater crisis.

 

[RasputinGrigori]

A Question...

Seriously though, folks, given the fact that by the looks of it the Catholic Church will not in the forseeable future change the rules on priestly celibacy, what is a priest to do?

Would you regard it as wrong for a priest to have a lover in secret?

And what about if the lover is in his parish? From a professional point of view having a lover in his parish would be like a lawyer, doctor or psychotherapist having sex with a client - a violation of professional conduct and certainly might be seen as misuse of power....

 

[MissTaken]

If a priest were to take on a lover, yes, I feel it should be from outside the parish. However, the likelihood of that being the case could be slim.

Priests are men, first and foremost. There are not infallible, have the same needs as men and the Catholic Church needs to stop dealing out mixed messages concerning the matter.

I am Catholic. I won't confess my sins to a mortal. And I don't expect a mortal human being to act in a God like fashion.


Please, dont' misunderstand this post....I am NOT defending the priests who have commited acts of child sex abuse. There is no defense for that...but as previously stated, it is a clear indicator of a far bigger systematic problem wihtin the church.

 

[da_cats_pjs]

As a Catholic in the midst of a crisis, I'm not sure there is any answer that doesn't first start with the entire restructuring of the church. I hold my Catholic faith dear, yet I have come to see that the Catholic faith and the Catholic Church are two very seperate things.

But that aside, at this point if a priest feels the need to take a lover, I think he just needs to leave the Church. Its not like he wasn't aware of the sacrifice he was committing to make, if he can no longer keep his committments then he should no longer retain his position. MAybe if enough priests walked out, the church would be forced to examine its views. Oh well. back ot fornicating along the highway to hell.

 

[MissTaken]

Good point!

Doh!

Until things change, priests do know what is expected of them well in advance of any commitment being made. AS with any job, if ya can't meet the terms of your contract, you should leave or be fired.

 

[navarre]

what they said

If a priest were to take on a lover, yes, I feel it should be from outside the parish. However, the likelihood of that being the case could be slim.

Priests are men, first and foremost. There are not infallible, have the same needs as men and the Catholic Church needs to stop dealing out mixed messages concerning the matter.

I am Catholic. I won't confess my sins to a mortal. And I don't expect a mortal human being to act in a God like fashion.


Please, dont' misunderstand this post....I am NOT defending the priests who have commited acts of child sex abuse. There is no defense for that...but as previously stated, it is a clear indicator of a far bigger systematic problem wihtin the church.

Miss Taken,
I agree with what you said.
Looking at this through the eyes of an Eastern Orthodox I fail to see how a Catholic priest could function as a priest without experiencing the joys/pain of having sex and children.
RG is right. There needs to be some restructuring going on.

 

[1sexylady]

What should he do????????

Put it anywhere but a childs mouth, ass or hands.... There are toys for that is there not...?????????

 

[MissTaken]

Re: What should he do????????

Put it anywhere but a childs mouth, ass or hands.... There are toys for that is there not...?????????

That's a given.

No one suggesting that chastity is a defense for pedophilia.

I have long believed that clergy men should be permitted to marry and possibly even procreate.

 

[1sexylady]

Re: Re: What should he do????????

That's a given.

No one suggesting that chastity is a defense for pedophilia.

I have long believed that clergy men should be permitted to marry and possibly even procreate.

I agree with you and I am catholic also... What everyone forgets is just because they are priests, that they are not human as well...but hey go for the women and leave out the children that is what I get pissed about...and if that is what they do kick their asses out of the church....

 

[princess4u]

priests who have allegations of sexual abuse made against them are immediately removed from ministry in the archdiocese where i reside - they remain a priest for life (unless that status is removed by a lengthy canonical procedure which is seldom used) but they do not "minister" - that includes the right to celebrate public mass or to even part of ANY parish - that has been true since a sexual abuse policy was instituted in 1989 - the sad part is that at that time the "church" refused to institute a "national" abuse policy - which in light of the present situation hopefully they will do during the next few months

 

[princess4u]

to answer the question

i think he should masturbate if he is so inclined - a vow of celibacy does not remove the desire - they are "men" - it is unlikely that the catholic church will ever change its stand on priests marrying - it will certainly not happen in the lifetime of anyone reading this

in most cases celibacy is not the driving force behind a pedophile - priests do not become pedophiles because of a lack of sex - sometimes pedophiles enter the priesthood with hopes that the lifestyle will remove those desires and on very rare occasions they enter the priesthood because it will allow them to minister to children and young adults - that is the same as pedophiles who become sports coaches, teachers, school maintenance persons, etc.

 

[MissTaken]

What saddens me is the dark shadow placed over all priests by the heinous acts of a few and the church's response.

I have known several who were devout, moral and very instrumental parts of my life at one point or another.

It is comparable to incidences of child sexual abuse in the school system. For a while after a teacher has been accused, all teachers are looked at with condemnation.

All suffer the stigma. The liability and risk that goes with working with children and families is enough to make one reconsider.

*a few mumblings from a very tired Miss T*

 

[princess4u]

MissT

i couldn't agree with you more - it is a sad situation for the devout men who have dedicated their lives to their church and given so much to so many ~

 

[Mountain Man]

Allowing priests to marry would not stop those so inclined to molest children...

Like in the Lay world..there are those who molest children...many of those who do are married...

the though that allowing priests to marry would stop the crime...are shortsighted and naive...


sorry for adding my 2 cents.