Carly Fiorina Is Doomed

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

She fired 30,000 people at Hewlett-Packard. No one's thinking about it but it happened, and Trump will remind us soon enough.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

America has been watching The Donald gleefully fire people for years now...

 

[Lancecastor]

Plus, she's ugly.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We can clearly see that the men do not want a female candidate.



That attitude from the HP board may have been her main problem...



Now JAMES, are you able to lead us in a CEO-level discussion on the trajectory of HP before she was tapped as the first woman to head a top 20 company and how she did, or did not exacerbate that trajectory?

In other words, since I think you are too obtuse to get the point, ,

How many jobs did she "save?"

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

We want our wimmin to be Seals and Whales

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Executives almost never make a mistake in firing people. Their mistakes are usually evident in who they keep.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Executives almost never make a mistake in firing people. Their mistakes are usually evident in who they keep.

This is politics. Trump will use the firings to kick her ass. Its 30K. Recall that Romney had it used against him in 2012.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Trump will appear on FOX tomorrow. He's making the rounds with guest appearances there. But Megyn aint one of the lucky hosts. So I predict she will hafta kneel and kiss Donald's ass publicly or miss out.

 

[MrBates2]

Plus, she's ugly.

So is your mama!

 

[Aquagal]

She sounds like Holly Hunter when she talks.

 

[Killswitch1]

She sounds like Holly Hunter when she talks.

I'd hit it. She has that big nose I dig. lol

 

[someoneyouknow]

Executives almost never make a mistake in firing people. Their mistakes are usually evident in who they keep.

Possibly, but in Carly's case not only did she fire 20,000 people, she bragged she hadn't fired enough people, or fast enough.

Now normally when you fire people you do so for many reasons but the end result should be the same: your company's profitability increases because it now has less expenditures which means your stock price should also rise.

That didn't happen in the case of HP. In fact, HP's stock price has NEVER recovered since her term:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/07/news/carly-fiorina-gop-debate-hp-hewlett-packard/

Even worse, the one area HP was really good at, printers, she nearly destroyed. Some of you may remember the HP 4 series of printers. They were literally tanks. Unlike the scene from Office Space where they're beating the crap out their printer, an HP 4 printer would laugh if you tried the same thing. After she got through with her firings and "reorganizations", one was afraid to touch HP printers they were so fragile. Even today they haven't fully recovered from her rampage.

Carly shows exactly what is wrong with large businesses today. She was rewarded for her incompetence not only with an exorbitant salary and perks, but a humungous golden parachute when she was shoved out the door. In fact, as the CNN article above relates, HP's stock went UP when it was announced she was leaving.

Anyone who thinks Fiorina would make a good president must literally be on drugs, and not the good kind. She is so inept I wouldn't have let her take care of my cat (when I had him) for the weekend she would screwed up that simple task.

 

[Ishmael]

Executives almost never make a mistake in firing people. Their mistakes are usually evident in who they keep.

Bingo.

Ishmael

 

[Beco]

She fired 30,000 people at Hewlett-Packard. No one's thinking about it but it happened, and Trump will remind us soon enough.

stock holders didnt seem to mind.....

 

[Aquagal]

I'd hit it. She has that big nose I dig. lol

I don't think she's bad looking at all, maybe it's her voice that has me mesmerized. All I can think of is Holly Hunter being a bad girl on that Grace TV show when I watch her talk.

 

[someoneyouknow]

stock holders didnt seem to mind.....

HP stock lost 50% of its value while Carly was at the helm. I think stockholders minded very much.

 

[Killswitch1]

I don't think she's bad looking at all, maybe it's her voice that has me mesmerized. All I can think of is Holly Hunter being a bad girl on that Grace TV show when I watch her talk.

Trump said shes smart but after about five minutes listening to her he gets a migraine.


lol

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Executives almost never make a mistake in firing people. Their mistakes are usually evident in who they keep.

*chuckle*

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

stock holders didnt seem to mind.....

But voters mind. And trump will remind them.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

How exactly does Carly Fiorina’s tenure at HP—where she was CEO from July 1999 until she was fired in February 2005—stack up? It’s true that HP was flagging when Fiorina came on board. And you can find a few Carly defenders out there: Bob Knowling, who was on HP's board of directors during Fiorina's tenure recently told CNN that, "Contrary to what has been written in terms of a lot of negative things, she did what she was hired to do and that was to lead a transformation.” Another person close to the company says: “She certainly does not deserve all the blame, there is plenty to go around, and you could argue that no one could have saved HP from its decline from a once great company.”

Much more frequently though, the informed commentary is less flattering: “She was polarizing [and] disenfranchising,” a top HP executive, who joined the company immediately after Fiorina left, told Yahoo Finance. “She was a value destruction machine with near zero cultural sensitivity,” says a top tech CEO. “Carly self excused the barrage of criticism by saying it all came with her necessary role as a change agent. I guess history doesn't welcome all saviors. The [Silicon] Valley opinion was universally and viscerally negative. I literally don't know a single person who thinks she was great and unfairly treated.”

Redneck translation: Politically correct weenies were offended because she triggered their too-sensitive (possibly masculine superiority being threatened in the all-boys club; how dare a woman treat them like that!) insecurities and pushed against their comfort zone. The latter happens every time you get a new boss or a new process in the workplace; volumes have been written about it. It is up to the employee to adapt, or quit, but all too often they engage in subterfuge and sabotage.

The Col and Ish are right: She fired the wrong people in trying to right a sinking ship.

Also, you need to prove that the printer business is still the high profit center that it used to be when you can get one very cheaply because of the advancement of technology. The only money is in making ink and there's no way you have a top 20 company making and selling ink.

Hewlett-Packard had become a bloated content corporate dinosaur and was too slow to realize and then to react to a dynamic paradigm shift in the market and got their lunch eaten by smaller, newer, more savvy and more nimble competitors. The incompetence of the whiners was a much more fatal knife in the back than Fiorina.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/carly...ewlett-packard--by-the-numbers-184234108.html

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Redneck translation: Politically correct weenies were offended because she triggered their too-sensitive (possibly masculine superiority being threatened in the all-boys club; how dare a woman treat them like that!) insecurities and pushed against their comfort zone. The latter happens every time you get a new boss or a new process in the workplace; volumes have been written about it. It is up to the employee to adapt, or quit, but all too often they engage in subterfuge and sabotage.

The Col and Ish are right: She fired the wrong people in trying to right a sinking ship.

Also, you need to prove that the printer business is still the high profit center that it used to be when you can get one very cheaply because of the advancement of technology. The only money is in making ink and there's no way you have a top 20 company making and selling ink.

Hewlett-Packard had become a bloated content corporate dinosaur and was too slow to realize and then to react to a dynamic paradigm shift in the market and got their lunch eaten by smaller, newer, more savvy and more nimble competitors. The incompetence of the whiners was a much more fatal knife in the back than Fiorina.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/carly...ewlett-packard--by-the-numbers-184234108.html

HP was once a Cadillac test equipment company. Hewlett and Packard started in a garage, building good, cheap test equipment for college labs. Now the company makes crap for WALMART.

 

[Sailor904]

Trump said shes smart but after about five minutes listening to her he gets a migraine.


lol

Well... she does use a fair number of large words... thats not exactly in his wheelhouse.

Also, if he's smart, he'll leave that alone... the guy with four bankruptcies probably doesn't want to go down the 'failed to meet obligations' road.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Well... she does use a fair number of large words... thats not exactly in his wheelhouse.

Also, if he's smart, he'll leave that alone... the guy with four bankruptcies probably doesn't want to go down the 'failed to meet obligations' road.

But he's winning and no loser like you.

 

[Beco]

But voters mind. And trump will remind them.

I'm sure Trump has fired more than 30k in his day....

 

[Beco]

HP stock lost 50% of its value while Carly was at the helm. I think stockholders minded very much.

If you have a good link, I'd be interested in reading it. I read whre she resurrected the company, took it in new directions and made is a leader in the printer industry. She also got stonewalled by the board of directors..