Caprica

[Byron In Exile]

The latest episode just came up in my Hulu queue.

It's entitled: "Know Thy Enemy."

All the millions of dollars they're spending on this thing, and they couldn't find one single person to point out that it's "Know Thine Enemy?"

Let history record that civilization ended on Earth long before it did on Caprica.

 

[philosophygirl]

know thy proper possessive pronoun
might have been more appropriate.

 

[Byron In Exile]

know thy proper possessive pronoun
might have been more appropriate.

How does such a silly mistake get made with all that money flowing around?

Oh, wait, the US government. I forgot for a moment...

 

[philosophygirl]

How does such a silly mistake get made with all that money flowing around?

Oh, wait, the US government. I forgot for a moment...

I can't explain the government but comparing hollywood to them is not a stretch.

Maybe they thought it sounded right and were unfamiliar with a dictionary or the spell/grammar check thingy didn't highlight it, so it had to be right?

 

[Byron In Exile]

I can't explain the government but comparing hollywood to them is not a stretch.

Maybe they thought it sounded right and were unfamiliar with a dictionary or the spell/grammar check thingy didn't highlight it, so it had to be right?

The "spell/grammar check thingy"?

I rest my case.

The dialogue is mediocre, the characters are interesting, the plot is... well... loose as a wizard's sleeve.

You have a series which is in danger of being immediately cancelled, and you let a moron compose the title of an episode?

That message goes out to all the world: "Here's what we're about!" — "Wait, was I not more specific? We don't care!!!"

In other words, "we're all about error as long as it pays off, because we will never come close to Battlestar Galactica, and yet, like buzzards, we believe there's flesh to pick at, yet."

Where did the fucking writers go?

They can't have all suddenly died.

 

[Phelia]

I think the deeper problem is that "Know Thy/Thine/Thou/Thee/Thunst/Thyour Enemy" is the most boring, uninspired title for any episode of anything.

The error is mildly irritating, though, and if they end up doing that thing where they tack "methinks" to the wrong end of the Hamlet quote, I'll be so galdurned mad.

 

[philosophygirl]

The "spell/grammar check thingy"?

I rest my case.

The dialogue is mediocre, the characters are interesting, the plot is... well... loose as a wizard's sleeve.

You have a series which is in danger of being immediately cancelled, and you let a moron compose the title of an episode?

That message goes out to all the world: "Here's what we're about!" — "Wait, was I not more specific? We don't care!!!"

In other words, "we're all about error as long as it pays off, because we will never come close to
Battlestar Galactica, and yet, like buzzards, we believe there's flesh to pick at, yet."


Where did the fucking writers go?

They can't have all suddenly died.

I can't say about the writers. Body snatchers? Microchips? Microwaves? Food poisoning from sushi or ill placed Botox injections?

Seldom a sequel or a spinoff is as good as the original, I am hoping it will turn around but it probably won't.

I will just sit and quietly drool over the lovely men and hope for explosions and some dog fights.

 

[Byron In Exile]

I think the deeper problem is that "Know Thy/Thine/Thou/Thee/Thunst/Thyour Enemy" is the most boring, uninspired title for any episode of anything.

The error is mildly irritating, though, and if they end up doing that thing where they tack "methinks" to the wrong end of the Hamlet quote, I'll be so galdurned mad.

It just seems incongruous to me.

It's like doing a shitload of work editing something, and then slapping on a label that says, "Best Edititing Ever!"

 

[Byron In Exile]

I can't say about the writers. Body snatchers? Microchips? Microwaves? Food poisoning from sushi or ill placed Botox injections?

Seldom a sequel or a spinoff is as good as the original, I am hoping it will turn around but it probably won't.

I will just sit and quietly drool over the lovely men and hope for explosions and some dog fights.

Honestly? I find the show interesting.

But it's vampiric.

Its connection to BSG is simply for the purpose of luring BSG fans.

That's alright — BSG is over — but... do something with it, gods dammit!!

 

[Byron In Exile]

I will just sit and quietly drool over the lovely men and hope for explosions and some dog fights.

Good luck with that.

On a more serious note, Baltar's Cylon test is unreliable.

We need a more permanent way to resolve this question.

Have you ever shot the Admiral of the Fleet?

 

[Phelia]

It just seems incongruous to me.

It's like doing a shitload of work editing something, and then slapping on a label that says, "Best Edititing Ever!"

To be fair, though, I can't imagine that too many things have ever been editited. It's entirely possible that they did do the best edititing job ever considering how thin the competition must be in such an up-and-coming field.

I do agree with you. It's ridiculous that something could pass through so many channels of high-paid approval with an error that winks at you from the cover page. But don't you ever have that moment right after a movie cuts to credits where you consider that with all of the time, money, and collaboration necessary to get it produced that no one bothered to point out that the idea, script, and execution are about as interesting as a breaking news story on the fact that water is wet?

 

[philosophygirl]

Honestly? I find the show interesting.

But it's vampiric.

Its connection to BSG is simply for the purpose of luring BSG fans.

That's alright — BSG is over — but... do something with it, gods dammit!!

Bill's first connection with the Cylons. Where his disdain for his father came from. How the cylons evolved. Religious fanatics. Love. Hate. Greed. Stupidity. It has potential for a good show.

Fully realized or not.

 

[philosophygirl]

Good luck with that.

On a more serious note, Baltar's Cylon test is unreliable.

We need a more permanent way to resolve this question.

Have you ever shot the Admiral of the Fleet?

No...but I punched out a superior officer, married a cylon, acted all surly, and smoked several cigars.

Btw I hate fracking tests.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Bill's first connection with the Cylons. Where his disdain for his father came from. How the cylons evolved. Religious fanatics. Love. Hate. Greed. Stupidity. It has potential for a good show.

Fully realized or not.

Yes, exactly. Potential. But what's added doesn't really make a difference. We all deal with this sort of stuff every day.

They're capitalizing on the backstory, not using it to say anything more.

Here's one of the most moving moments for me, from BSG:

<appropriately pregnant pause>

















"In all your travels, have you ever seen a star supernova?"

"No."

"No? Well, I have. I saw a star explode and send out the building blocks of the universe, other stars, other planets, and eventually other life. A supernova. Creation itself. I was there. I wanted to see it, and be part of the moment. And do you know how I perceived one of the most glorious events in the universe? With these ridiculous gelatinous orbs in my skull. With eyes designed to perceive only a tiny fraction of the EM spectrum, with ears designed only to hear vibrations in the air."

"The five of us designed you to be as human as possible."

"I don't want to be human. I want to see gamma rays, I want to hear X-rays, and I want to smell dark matter. Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly, because I have to — I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me. I'm a machine, and I can know much more, I could experience so much more, but I'm trapped in this absurd body. And why? Because my five creators thought that God wanted it that way."

 

[Byron In Exile]

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[Byron In Exile]

No...but I punched out a superior officer, married a cylon, acted all surly, and smoked several cigars.

Btw I hate fracking tests.

Hm. You're in.

Just don't leave your dogtags where you can find them later on your own body.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Angel...

 

[Byron In Exile]

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[philosophygirl]

That is a wonderful moment and a brilliant speech. One of my favorite moments is between starbuck and leoben. It reveals so much of starbuck's motivation, why she acts with her 'self-destructive almost martyrdom.'

The part of his speech that I love starts with the line "I have a soul..."

Sadly no copy/paste on my phone.

Yes, exactly. Potential. But what's added doesn't really make a difference. We all deal with this sort of stuff every day.

Yes, but if done properly can be very moving. The power of the ordinary obstacle and our ability to relate to the characters troubles, should not be underestimated...still delivery is everything!

They're capitalizing on the backstory, not using it to say anything more.

Here's one of the most moving moments for me, from BSG:

<appropriately pregnant pause>

















"In all your travels, have you ever seen a star supernova?"

"No."

"No? Well, I have. I saw a star explode and send out the building blocks of the universe, other stars, other planets, and eventually other life. A supernova. Creation itself. I was there. I wanted to see it, and be part of the moment. And do you know how I perceived one of the most glorious events in the universe? With these ridiculous gelatinous orbs in my skull. With eyes designed to perceive only a tiny fraction of the EM spectrum, with ears designed only to hear vibrations in the air."

"The five of us designed you to be as human as possible."

"I don't want to be human. I want to see gamma rays, I want to hear X-rays, and I want to smell dark matter. Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly, because I have to — I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me. I'm a machine, and I can know much more, I could experience so much more, but I'm trapped in this absurd body. And why? Because my five creators thought that God wanted it that way."

 

[philosophygirl]

Hm. You're in.

Just don't leave your dogtags where you can find them later on your own body.

I am always losing things but never fail to be surprised to when I find them in the places I have been.

All this has happened before and will happen again or some such rot.

Angel...

Only a messenger...

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

The latest episode just came up in my Hulu queue.

It's entitled: "Know Thy Enemy."

All the millions of dollars they're spending on this thing, and they couldn't find one single person to point out that it's "Know Thine Enemy?"

Let history record that civilization ended on Earth long before it did on Caprica.

They just keep talking and talking. I wonder if Eric still has his Joseph Merrick mask? That would be great at Halloween. There's a thin line between thy and thine. They certainly weren't trying to be brief.

Talk, talk, talk.