Canadians hurl abuse at U.S. hockey peewees

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Ooops.....looks like our friendly Quebec French population did it again. From the front page of today's Globe & Mail.

It might be a good idea for Americans to stay away from Quebec, especially Montreal, for a while....

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Canadians hurl abuse at U.S. hockey peewees


By INGRID PERITZ
Wednesday, April 2, 2003 - Page A1

MONTREAL -- A peewee hockey tournament in Montreal became a trip into hostile territory for a busload of Americans who say they encountered such fierce anti-Americanism that they will think twice before returning.

During a four-day visit, boys travelling with their Massachusetts hockey team witnessed the burning of the Stars and Stripes and the booing of the U.S. national anthem. When travelling in their bus emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue "Coach USA" logo, they saw people on the street who extended their middle fingers or made other angry gestures.

On the ice, the Canadian players told their visiting counterparts that "the U.S. sucks" and dispensed other anti-American insults, the Americans said.

"It was a shock to go to a tournament and have kids saying this to us. These are our friends that are doing this," Brockton Boxers coach Ernest Nadeau said.

"We didn't expect Canadian players -- especially young boys -- would take things to that extreme," he said in an interview.

The 11- and 12-year-old boys from Brockton, 30 kilometres south of Boston, had been looking forward to the hockey tournament in Montreal. But parents who accompanied them said they were unprepared for the depth of anti-American sentiment over the U.S.-led war against Iraq.

One parent, Bill Carpenter, was so upset he cancelled his family's vacation to Quebec this summer.

"We were very offended by the whole thing," said Mr. Carpenter, who accompanied two sons on the trip.

"I understand the opposition to the war. But we were made to feel unwelcome just about anywhere we went.

"Montreal is a 5½-hour drive for us. It's not like we were travelling to Syria or France or Germany," he said. "As Americans, we felt in the past that Canada was our closest ally and friend. No one told us we were heading into unfriendly territory."

The trip soured soon after the Americans rolled into Montreal on March 20.

Their bus entered downtown Montreal just as hundreds of college and university students were marching through the streets in an antiwar demonstration. Police cruisers spotted the U.S. bus and escorted it to its hotel on Sherbrooke Street as a safety precaution. A police officer urged the visitors to remain in the bus until the protest passed.

The children watched as several demonstrators made obscene gestures toward the bus. A U.S. flag was dragged through the street.

"We felt horrible," Mr. Nadeau said. "How would you feel if the Canadian flag was dragged down the streets in the U.S.A.? This is a country that's supposed to be our ally."

That night, about a dozen families went to the Montreal Canadiens-New York Islanders game at the Montreal Bell Centre, a much-anticipated visit planned months in advance. In a gesture later condemned, the U.S. national anthem was widely booed by the crowd, leaving the visiting American children perplexed.

"The kids were just questioning, 'Why are they doing this?' " said David Cruise, who was there with his 12-year-old son. "It's hard for them to realize we weren't in America any more; we were in a different country.

"I said, 'They're booing our national anthem because they don't like us.' "

Mr. Cruise felt so uncomfortable that he left with his son after the first period. "Whether you're for or against the war, we have guys over there dying," Mr. Cruise said. "The next time, we'll stay in the States. I'm not going back there again."

The visitors say anti-American comments continued when the young players faced off against the Beverly Bandits, a team from Beverly, Ont. U.S. players say the Canadians hurled insults during face-offs and at other times.

"They told us we sucked, gave us the finger and said 'Down with the U.S.A.' or 'The U.S.A. sucks," Mr. Nadeau said. At one point, a Canadian player made a disparaging remark about the United States "and the referee turned around and said, 'I agree with you.' "What stunned us was that the referee, who is supposed to be unbiased, is agreeing with the boys on the ice."

His players "wanted to retaliate" against the Canadians, but Mr. Nadeau said he urged them "not to do anything foolish."

Denis Desrochers, president of the minor hockey team in Beverly, west of Hamilton, said in an interview that he had heard nothing about the anti-American slurs.

"It boggles my mind that the kids would say that. They don't even talk about it," he said. "I wouldn't tolerate it. Whether you're American or Canadian, you're not allowed to swear at any kids." On Saturday, Mr. Carpenter went for a walk downtown with his two children as another antiwar demonstration unfolded in Montreal -- one of several that drew huge crowds in a province staunchly opposed to the war.

Mr. Carpenter came across a knot of demonstrators surrounding a protester who, with an Iraqi flag and a U.S. flag, had climbed atop a traffic light.

The crowd cheered when the man waved the Iraqi flag, and booed the U.S. flag, Mr. Carpenter said. Then the protester doused the U.S. flag in kerosene.

"It went up in a puff of smoke and flames, and the crowd went wild. They were all cheering," said Mr. Carpenter, whose 24-year-old son, a U.S. Marine, was sent to retrieve bodies of Americans killed in the 2001 terrorist bombing of USS Cole in Yemen.

Mr. Carpenter tried to explain the anti-American displays to his children. "I said to my kids, 'These folks disagree with our government, not you personally.' "

As they crossed the border into the United States, cheers went up in the bus. "We were very, very happy to get back home," Mr. Nadeau said.
 
(His last words spoken while in Canada before being tarred and feathered)
Yeah but who cares? It's just hockey. PFffffth.
 
P. B. Walker said:
(His last words spoken while in Canada before being tarred and feathered)
Yeah but who cares? It's just hockey. PFffffth.

HEATHEN BLASPHEMER!!

Ya' gotta' love Quebec..... I think the only thing that makes us want to hang on to them is there women.... and full nudity strip clubs
 
Expertise said:
HEATHEN BLASPHEMER!!

Ya' gotta' love Quebec..... I think the only thing that makes us want to hang on to them is there women.... and full nudity strip clubs

And the clothes.

And the restaurants.

And the Habs.

Quebers are like Canada's Texans....the big assholes we're always making excuses for when they behave like dinks.

What pisses me off is the way 11-13 year olds (of both countries)had to be exposed to this sort of behavior.
 
From the posts I've seen on this board, this article doesn't suprise me at all.


What a shame!
 
zipman7 said:
From the posts I've seen on this board, this article doesn't suprise me at all.


What a shame!

Yeah, it's a bit beyond the pale I think.

My boy is in a big tournament stating tomorrow with teams from all over Canada and the eastern USA....I certainly hope I don't see any of that crap going on or one of those fancy 100$ Nike hockey sticks I keep buying could wind up in someone's poop chute....I'd hate to get in a fight before the game; etiquette says the fathers shouldn't enter into fisticuffs until after the game.
 
Lancecastor said:
Yeah, it's a bit beyond the pale I think.

My boy is in a big tournament stating tomorrow with teams from all over Canada and the eastern USA....I certainly hope I don't see any of that crap going on or one of those fancy 100$ Nike hockey sticks I keep buying could wind up in someone's poop chute....I'd hate to get in a fight before the game; etiquette says the fathers shouldn't enter into fisticuffs until after the game.

I don't have any children, but I have always been fascinated (and disgusted) by the behaivor of parents at their chilren's sporting events.

It seems as though the kids having fun is the last thing considered. I was walking through my parents suburban neighborhood while visiting them and saw a little league baseball game being played. I watched two innings and then the game was interupted when a parent rushed the Umpire, screaming, cursing and threatening them over a call. Instead of trying to restrain the lunatic, the other parents all started arguing over the call. It was insane.
 
zipman7 said:
I don't have any children, but I have always been fascinated (and disgusted) by the behaivor of parents at their chilren's sporting events.

It seems as though the kids having fun is the last thing considered. I was walking through my parents suburban neighborhood while visiting them and saw a little league baseball game being played. I watched two innings and then the game was interupted when a parent rushed the Umpire, screaming, cursing and threatening them over a call. Instead of trying to restrain the lunatic, the other parents all started arguing over the call. It was insane.

In hockey, the mothers are way more evil than the fathers....plus you can't tell them they're stupid, wrong or to fuck off, cuz they go mental.

Wimmins should be told to stay away from hockey rinks...at least until they learn the Rules.
 
Lancecastor said:
In hockey, the mothers are way more evil than the fathers.

I hear the Mother's at those beauty contests are even worse!
 
Ughh. That story sickened me. The first part I understand. They showed up during the middle of a peace march so what can you do but everything they had to endure during the tournement was just disgraceful. Humiliating. Why is it that the lowest common denominator always gets its day in the sun. I would rather the kids play to empty arenas with their parents waiting in the parking lot than have to see that crap. The refs should be fined and fired. I really feel bad about the behaviour that has been demonstrated by other Montrealers during all of this. The lack of respect is just... humiliating.
 
What goes around, comes around....

That's okay, since the true nature of Canada has surfaced, I took my Canadian-American flag pins off my riding vest. I give shit to any (former ally) Canadian that comes into the bike shop, and either they leave pissed, or laughing, it's up to them.
I haven't burned any Maple leaf flag, I have too much respect for the soldiers that died so Canuckistan can fall into ruin from within.

The French are like that piece of food in your teeth, no matter how well mannered you are, your date will remember that funky piece of food.


Phuque de Francais.
 
I swear to God, it's only Quebec that is ignorant like that.

At the Baseball game here the other night, no one booed any anthems, no one booed when they played it during the seventh inning stretch.

Most of us are appalled by that kind of ignorance.
 
Lancecastor said:
And the clothes.

And the restaurants.

And the Habs.

Quebers are like Canada's Texans....the big assholes we're always making excuses for when they behave like dinks.

What pisses me off is the way 11-13 year olds (of both countries)had to be exposed to this sort of behavior.

Nahhh bad analogy. Texans have swagger and things to be justly be proud about... beyond Celine Dion and Cirque de Soleil

PS HABS BLOW and no i'm not a leaf fan
 
Re: What goes around, comes around....

Lost Cause said:
That's okay, since the true nature of Canada has surfaced, I took my Canadian-American flag pins off my riding vest. I give shit to any (former ally) Canadian that comes into the bike shop, and either they leave pissed, or laughing, it's up to them.
I haven't burned any Maple leaf flag, I have too much respect for the soldiers that died so Canuckistan can fall into ruin from within.

The French are like that piece of food in your teeth, no matter how well mannered you are, your date will remember that funky piece of food.


Phuque de Francais.

It must be frustrating to believe you're doing the right thing yet all your friends think you're an asshole.

It reminds me of trying to tell your buddy that the grrl he's dating is a huge mistake that's going to fuck him up...does he listen?

Noooooooooo.

:)
 
Re: Re: What goes around, comes around....

Lancecastor said:
It must be frustrating to believe you're doing the right thing yet all your friends think you're an asshole.

It reminds me of trying to tell your buddy that the grrl he's dating is a huge mistake that's going to fuck him up...does he listen?

Noooooooooo.

:)


Nice analogy, Lance.
 
Lancecastor said:
In hockey, the mothers are way more evil than the fathers....

AMEN to that!!

Although figure skating mothers are devil's spawn...
 
P. B. Walker said:
(His last words spoken while in Canada before being tarred and feathered)
Yeah but who cares? It's just hockey. PFffffth.


JUST HOCKEY???!!?!?!?! Watch out or the hockey gods will strike you down with a ferocious hip check!!!

Well the Montreal Canadiens fans boo'd the US anthem at the beginning of this war. They just happen to be in town tonight, one of the radio stations in town is trying to set up some kind of revenge. LOL

Cant wait.

GO LIGHTNING!
 
tell your buddy that the grrl he's dating is a huge mistake that's going to fuck him

Especially when the friend telling you that is gay.
 
SweetLuvin said:
Well the Montreal Canadiens fans boo'd the US anthem at the beginning of this war. They just happen to be in town tonight, one of the radio stations in town is trying to set up some kind of revenge. LOL

This is why I don't think anthems should be played at sporting events.. It's just stupid how people disrepect an opposing nations anthem and then try to pass it off as protesting or 'revenge' because 'the other country did it.

It's also stupid to play only two anthems when there are also Russians, Swedes, Finns and so on also on the ice...

Play the one home anthe and leave it at that.
 
Liontamr said:
This is why I don't think anthems should be played at sporting events.. It's just stupid how people disrepect an opposing nations anthem and then try to pass it off as protesting or 'revenge' because 'the other country did it.

It's also stupid to play only two anthems when there are also Russians, Swedes, Finns and so on also on the ice...

Play the one home anthe and leave it at that.


Yeah theyeve actually considered doing that here, we have Chec republic, Canadian,American, a Swede and some Finnsh guys on our team. I guess it would take to long to play all the anthems!!! :)
 
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