Can one of you yanks explain to me...

Sean

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...where this "people in NJ cheered as the WTC collapsed" came from? Is Trump just completely off his nut or is this an actual conspiracy theory I've just never heard of?
 
I'm not sure what you're speaking of, but yes, Trump is totally off his nut.
 
It really happened. It was our blacks in NYC. Reverend Al and some others stopped it but not before plenty saw it.
 
It was an Internet rumor. Nothing more. It was actually supposed to have occurred in Paterson instead of Jersey City. Trump swears he saw it on TV though.
 
The Brit. defending New Jersey's honour.
This one trumps Zumi (who's not black) fighting against Smooth (who's black) for their civil rights.:rolleyes:;)
 
His move is completely tactical, and makes a lot of sense given his demographic.

Imagine how many people on here believe that it's true, even though there is no evidence to back it up.

People like jbj, neverendingme, eyer and millions of other un-educated simpletons are all ready to stand behind trump on this matter. He's "Standing up" to the muslims, and that's what they care about. Never mind that they couldn't tell a Muslim from a Hindu...
 
Lies lies lies! Anything ANYTHING to get votes!

Canadian 9/11 Terrorist Myth Resurfaces. Again.

https://canadasworld.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/canadian-911-terrorist-myth-resurfaces-again/

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

By now I suspect everyone’s heard of U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano’s gaffe Monday when she perpetuated the oft-repeated yet completely incorrect notion that 9/11 terrorists entered the U.S. from Canada. This story has been repeated so often that apparently our embassy there has a chart of incidents and issues a stock refutation to the media every time it happens.

What made the incident especially newsworthy this time may just be that it happened in the post-Bush era – and the fact that it came from someone who really, really should have known better.

Among those who have had their hands slapped for repeated this story are Sen. Conrad Burns, Newt Gingrich, then Sen. Hillary Clinton, and Rep. Ruben Hinojosa, who claimed that “as we all know, terrorists entered the U.S. from Canada on Sept. 11, 2001, using passports that the Canadians accepted as valid despite the fact that the documents were doctored.”

Let’s hope this is the last time the Canadian Embassy has to send out that press release.

UPDATE: Well, that didn’t take long…

McCain Repeats False Claim That Sept. 11 Hijackers Entered U.S. From Canada

…when asked about the gaffe on FOX News Friday, McCain said: “Well, some of the 9/11 hijackers did come through Canada, as you know.”

Groan.
 
there was cheering in some parts of the middle east, i remember seeing that stomach-turning news footage on cnn. but i never saw any of that stateside.

then again, ta'nahesi coates seemed to derive some measure of glee from that day. :-/
 
He just gets confused between the west bank of the Hudson and THE West Bank.
 
...where this "people in NJ cheered as the WTC collapsed" came from? Is Trump just completely off his nut or is this an actual conspiracy theory I've just never heard of?

His whole campaign in fueled by this type of stupid and he needs to come up with something new on a regular basis. Just beating the same old drum won't due. I would expect to see more and more of this stuff as he starts to sink, and he will.
 
I was cheering that they let us go from school. And I'm in NJ,maybe that's what he was talking about? Lol
 
I was cheering that they let us go from school. And I'm in NJ,maybe that's what he was talking about? Lol

It's your fault! You should call the Donald and explain it to him. Tell him you were only a kid at the time and didn't know.
 
Trump is depending on Right Wing Extremists (some of these Right Wing crazies are Neo Nazi enthusiasts!) for information that he needs. It is possible that one of his fans experienced a hallucination, and reported it as a real, meat world experience.

The Extremist Right Wing has been caught using film footage appropriated from unrelated events, to attempt to prove their racist and bigoted points. It is possible for Trump to have watched a video clip, online, and "mis- remembered" where he saw the video clip of "thousands and thousands" of Islamic people cheering.

gsgs comment-

For all that I know, it could have been a video clip of people celebrating the fall of the Shah. That certainly did not happen in Paterson, New Jersey.

/end gsgs comment


Trump Doubles Down On Claim He Saw Thousands Cheer In N.J. On 9/11
Updated November 23, 2015


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has shown he is not one to back down.

In fact, when he was questioned by ABC News today about his assertion that "thousands and thousands of people" cheered the collapse of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 just across the river in New Jersey, Trump doubled down.

"It did happen. I saw it. It was on television. I saw it," Trump said.



http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-down-on-claim-he-saw-thousands-cheer-on-9-11


NPR investigates-


We asked our library to look through contemporaneous news reports. They tell us that that they could not turn up any news accounts of American Muslims cheering or celebrating in the wake of Sept. 11.

A 2007 piece from Reuters about Paterson, New Jersey, does address the celebrations but it concludes that they never happened. Reuters reports:

"Paterson was shaken by the September 11 attacks. On that day, a report circulated on some radio stations and Internet sites that Muslims in Paterson had demonstrated in celebration.

"Paterson officials promptly issued a statement denying the report, and Muslim leaders insist it was pure fabrication."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/11/donald-trump-muslims-cheering-911-video



" if Trump really did see thousands of Americans cheering the traumatic demise of the World Trade Towers and the horrific deaths of thousands of their fellow citizens—which, of course, he did not—this did not seem to affect him greatly at the time. Two days after 9/11, Trump granted an interview to a German television station. With the smoke still rising from the remains, Trump was…well, completely sane. He described the horrors he had seen at Ground Zero. He noted that he was sending over 200 workers to help with the removal and rescue operation underway. He called for the rebuilding of a "majestic" project on the site. And when asked how the United States ought to respond, Trump calmly replied, "I think they have to respond quickly and effectively. They have to find out exactly what the cause was, who did it. And they have to go after these people because there is no other choice."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ew-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/

Jersey City Mayor Fulop

"No one in Jersey City cheered on Sept. 11. We were actually among the first to provide responders to help in lower Manhattan.”


Possible source ?


Some conspiracy Web sites cite a column by controversial blogger and commentator Debbie Schlussel, who is highly critical of Muslims, that makes a reference to an MTV broadcast of protests and riots in Paterson, N.J.; this claim has never been authenticated.) As the Newark Star-Ledger put it in an article on Sept. 18, 2001, “rumors of rooftop celebrations of the attack by Muslims here proved unfounded.”
 
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