Can one be religious, and not believe in spirits?

[renard_ruse]

The title explains itself. I am for one a very religious person that does not believe in God, and has rejected all forms of spirituality. But I want know others opinions on this subject since people find it so baffling.

 

[Que]

Since lots of people who are professed atheists do believe in ghosts sure why not the other way around?

I'm curious about your concept of God. I'm working on it myself.


And you say you do believe in God but not spirits that meaning if you believe in a God who is not of a spirit nature he's physically located somewhere or resided in the past and set things in motion, what?

Ok, Nevermind. I see what you did there I just missed the other

 

[subdued_passion]

The title explains itself. I am for one a very religious person that does not believe in God, and has rejected all forms of spirituality. But I want know others opinions on this subject since people find it so baffling.

How are you religious without believing in a God since all religions believe in some divine force(s).

When you say you are religious, do you mean you merely practice the rituals followed by a particular religion?

 

[KingOrfeo]

I dunno, does the Holy Spirit count?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Since lots of people who are professed atheists do believe in ghosts sure why not the other way around?

I'm curious about your concept of God. I'm working on it myself.


And you say you do believe in God but not spirits that meaning if you believe in a God who is not of a spirit nature he's physically located somewhere or resided in the past and set things in motion, what?

Ok, Nevermind. I see what you did there I just missed the other

My sense of God is that of a Cosmic Whole where all things are connected in some form or fashion, and all comply with the Natural Laws.

 

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[Tryharder62]

Boo!!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

How can there be no intelligent design, when the universe and everything in it are governed by a supreme demonstrable order?

I didn't say there wasn't. But I don't pretend to know what I don't know. Its safe to say that God is prolly a whole lot more than my puny brain can figger out. And that's what I had in mind.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It was only a rhetorical question. Maybe "God" is simply the immutable law of the universe.

I don't know, all I know is God gets better results than the government. Can you imagine the Democrats in charge of air and sunshine!

 

[Que]

My sense of God is that of a Cosmic Whole where all things are connected in some form or fashion, and all comply with the Natural Laws.

It's interesting the Human yearning for order and unification of explainations into one grand blueprint for everything. Einstein was pretty dissatisfied with E=MC2 for reasons (beyond me) of loose ends not covered by that.

Seems like most of mathematics and physics is trying to tie everything up in a bow, connect all loose ends, make "sense" of it all.

And for the most part as we understand it, math and science tends to make sense.

Then, recently some mathematical asshole wrote something that challenged my perceptions on that. His take was math makes sense because we made a language to make it make sense...still digesting that one.

Its like my friend that shattered my Rainmain numerical fascination tendencies as he pointed out that the numbers I find "interesting looking" only look that way in base10...if we had 5 fingers and a thumb on each hand the base12 system for the same number would have a different eye appeal.

How can there be no intelligent design, when the universe and everything in it are governed by a supreme demonstrable order?

See above...maybe it looks orderly because we use orderly notation to describe it.

It was only a rhetorical question. Maybe "God" is simply the immutable law of the universe.

He (Assuming for the sake of discussion that He is singlular, male, an actual distinct personage, and all other standard disclaimers so I sound philosophically open minded...) has got to either have fashioned or at minimum be bound by such immutable laws (As we understand them, subject to finding out we didn't know what it was that we dont now think we know...)

People get dogmatic about their chosen god and don't seem to get that no matter how they have fashioned/discovered/connected with Him, he clearly is constrained (voluntarily or not) there are things he CAN do, and things he CANNOT do...we may would all theologies teach us limits and boundaries?

So an omnipotent God CANNOT fashion a stone so heavy he cannot lift it.

 

[neci]

i believe joseph smith heard the voice of god in utah, based on the location of magic mushrooms along his trip. look it up on a map. hiking for days on end. looking for the lord. finally, happy little mushrooms, perfect for consumption.

and the lord spoke,

this land is my land
this land is your land
have a mushroom
your trip is done

 

[RoryN]

The title explains itself. I am for one a very religious person that does not believe in God, and has rejected all forms of spirituality. But I want know others opinions on this subject since people find it so baffling.

You said you're a "racial preservationalist".

The man who coined the term, Richard McCulloch, is a noted white nationalist.

Why do you subscribe to racist ideology?

 

[parodyluvr75]

Can one be religious, and not believe in spirits?

Is this a parody thread?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Each of us makes sense of the world using what came with us in the box.

It happens occasionally that our senses seem to befuddle and disorient us. It happened to me the other day. I looked and looked and could make no sense of what I observed. Later I could. Now, what happened was my eyeballs saw something novel that doesn't conform to the sensory templates in my brain. So it assembled close enough templates from what I have in stock. My brain reasoned I wasn't observing anything significant, and substituted something else. It works like Love Potion #9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rXhXLsNJL8

 

[subdued_passion]

I didn't say there wasn't. But I don't pretend to know what I don't know. Its safe to say that God is prolly a whole lot more than my puny brain can figger out. And that's what I had in mind.

So many things I need to have explained to me. So many things for which there are yet no explanations found.

I'm certain that if there is a supreme being/ creator/ God, I couldn't capture the concept with mere words.

It was only a rhetorical question. Maybe "God" is simply the immutable law of the universe.

Sometimes I think God is the energy that flows through the universe- changing form but ever constant.

I don't know, all I know is God gets better results than the government. Can you imagine the Democrats in charge of air and sunshine!

The belief in the concept of a god has definitely helped mankind a great deal. Religion on the other hand...

And JBJ I can't believe your talent for dragging the Democrats into any topic of discussion.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So many things I need to have explained to me. So many things for which there are yet no explanations found.

I'm certain that if there is a supreme being/ creator/ God, I couldn't capture the concept with mere words.



Sometimes I think God is the energy that flows through the universe- changing form but ever constant.



The belief in the concept of a god has definitely helped mankind a great deal. Religion on the other hand...

And JBJ I can't believe your talent for dragging the Democrats into any topic of discussion.

Believe it. I'm a psychologist and know the effectiveness of constant denigration. I'm doing my part for the extinction of dolts.