Can Love conquer all ????

Samuelx

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There is this couple that I know.


The husband is named Patrick and the wife is Samantha. Samantha is a tall lady.
If there was a girl's football league, she'd be in it. Patrick is average height and build.
He is a smart and funny man. She is stoic and the silent type. They have three grown
kids and their kids are my friends. I once talked to Patrick about choices and
sexual orientation (not long ago). I learned a lot from talking to those two. Patrick said that he
is bisexual and his wife is okay with it. I was shocked. They knew each other since high school. Patrick was 17 when he realized he was bisexual and wanted to commit suicide because he was a christian and didnt want to shame his family. Samantha was his friend at the time and she talked him out of suicide. They remained friends after that. She encouraged him to explore himself. Patrick actively explored his sexually with literally dozens of women and quite a few men.
One day, he came to Samantha after ending an affair with a woman AND a man ! She comforted him. They made love. They began to live together. Patrick saw in Samantha the person who completed him and made him feel whole in ways no man or woman ever had.
Samantha confessed to having loved Patrick since high school. They got married and had kids.

I find their story to be fascinating.

I am quite cynical in matters of love, politics and whatnot. But it makes me wonder. Can love conquer all ?
 
That is such a cool story

I like to think that there is someone that fits perfectly with that special someone. Not that you can choose to be happy with whoever you want.

I often wonder what the stories are of happy couples that seem to be such an odd couple.
 
Samuelx said:
There is this couple that I know.


The husband is named Patrick and the wife is Samantha. Samantha is a tall lady.
If there was a girl's football league, she'd be in it. Patrick is average height and build.
He is a smart and funny man. She is stoic and the silent type. They have three grown
kids and their kids are my friends. I once talked to Patrick about choices and
sexual orientation (not long ago). I learned a lot from talking to those two. Patrick said that he
is bisexual and his wife is okay with it. I was shocked. They knew each other since high school. Patrick was 17 when he realized he was bisexual and wanted to commit suicide because he was a christian and didnt want to shame his family. Samantha was his friend at the time and she talked him out of suicide. They remained friends after that. She encouraged him to explore himself. Patrick actively explored his sexually with literally dozens of women and quite a few men.
One day, he came to Samantha after ending an affair with a woman AND a man ! She comforted him. They made love. They began to live together. Patrick saw in Samantha the person who completed him and made him feel whole in ways no man or woman ever had.
Samantha confessed to having loved Patrick since high school. They got married and had kids.

I find their story to be fascinating.

I am quite cynical in matters of love, politics and whatnot. But it makes me wonder. Can love conquer all ?

What exactly was the point in that? I'm not being bitter or attacking or anything but if these two have got together despite his colourful past don't really matter if you believe in that stuff as they are clearley happy. And what has love 'conquered'? not like he's dying (I hope he isn't) or anything.
 
Just another thing to add: my experience with my husband has allowed me to continue to believe that love can conquer all...I have always thought this (I'm a bit of an idealist I guess) but I do admit that when I was with my ex-boyfriend (2.5 year relationship) I lost faith in that....then my (now) husband and I got back together and this belief just soared within me! :)

Harrowborg - I understood your question: what has love conquered? in the story that started the thread. Then I thought about it some more and another point to it is that Patrick possibly felt "dead" in a way before he and Samantha got together???...just a thought
 
I took from the first post that 'love conquered' her initial feelings of anger/amazement/disgust/curiosity/whatever, that was her first reaction when she discovered his affairs (regardless of the gender link) and 'love conquered' his guilt feelings about the whole Christian ethic.

His love for her made him hope that she would understand him and in doing so it would help him to understand and 'maybe' acknowledge that bi-sexual side.

If she had not loved him she would have walked away, if he had not loved her he would not of taken the risk of telling her and taking whatever consequences his previous actions would result in.

Is that what you had in mind Samualx if not what did you have in mind? xx
 
without the affairs and torment of xtianity that could be my fiance and me.

Yeah, there are queer and poly oriented people who manage to get together and keep score on the bedpost together, make sex a game and a pleasure and not something to cry over.
 
Samuelx said:
There is this couple that I know.


The husband is named Patrick and the wife is Samantha. Samantha is a tall lady.
If there was a girl's football league, she'd be in it. Patrick is average height and build.
He is a smart and funny man. She is stoic and the silent type. They have three grown
kids and their kids are my friends. I once talked to Patrick about choices and
sexual orientation (not long ago). I learned a lot from talking to those two. Patrick said that he
is bisexual and his wife is okay with it. I was shocked. They knew each other since high school. Patrick was 17 when he realized he was bisexual and wanted to commit suicide because he was a christian and didnt want to shame his family. Samantha was his friend at the time and she talked him out of suicide. They remained friends after that. She encouraged him to explore himself. Patrick actively explored his sexually with literally dozens of women and quite a few men.
One day, he came to Samantha after ending an affair with a woman AND a man ! She comforted him. They made love. They began to live together. Patrick saw in Samantha the person who completed him and made him feel whole in ways no man or woman ever had.
Samantha confessed to having loved Patrick since high school. They got married and had kids.

I find their story to be fascinating.

I am quite cynical in matters of love, politics and whatnot. But it makes me wonder. Can love conquer all ?


Is this really "love" conquers all? It sounds more like best friends......If our SO were are best friends and we treated them like that....wouldnt more people understand and accept what they are going thru......And adjust their life accordingly......most of our SOs are not our best friends so that is where the jealousy and ideas spring from
 
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sxylegs said:
Is this really "love" conquers all? It sounds more like best friends......If our SO were are best friends and we treated them like that....wouldnt more people understand and accept what they are going thru......And adjust their life accordingly......most of our SOs are not our best friends so that is where the jealousy and ideas spring from

Well I'm lucky enough to have a girlfriend who is also my best friend, then again it wasn't really luck. *shrugs* it was one of my criteria for someone I would date, that I wouldn't date someone who wasn't a friend to me first. I can't comprehend dating an 'acquaintance' or someone I met in a bar. Friendship should be first, relationship next for the relationship to last.

Sorry for the rant ^_^()

-Zergplex
 
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