Can it be done?

RenzaJones

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After reading the thread on the appeal of incest, I have another quetion to pose. Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?

My inclination is to say yes. I don't find hetrosexual sex to be all that sexy. I've had less than a handful of fumbling sweaty encounters (and we are not talking about teenaged stabs in the dark). I have had sex with grown men and it was less fireworks and more flickering birthday candles. Anyway I think I could probably write a good erotic couplings story. What are your opinions?
 
Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?

Why sure I could. We've never had any incest in my family, and I couldn't really imagine it, but I took Genesis 19 and ramped it up a bit, (The Survival series) and I'm still getting positive feedback for it from time to time, especially part 2, so I must've done it right.
 
After reading the thread on the appeal of incest, I have another quetion to pose. Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?

My inclination is to say yes. I don't find hetrosexual sex to be all that sexy. I've had less than a handful of fumbling sweaty encounters (and we are not talking about teenaged stabs in the dark). I have had sex with grown men and it was less fireworks and more flickering birthday candles. Anyway I think I could probably write a good erotic couplings story. What are your opinions?

I'm pretty sure I could write in any category; the question, as you point out, is how good will it be? Passion is passion, and I imagine I could convey that no matter how the details change from one preference, fetish, whatever to another. This is actually a great question for Survivor contest participamts. I do think though that one's best writing is inspired by personal interest. :)
 
RenzaJones said:
After reading the thread on the appeal of incest, I have another quetion to pose. Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?

My inclination is to say yes. I don't find hetrosexual sex to be all that sexy. I've had less than a handful of fumbling sweaty encounters (and we are not talking about teenaged stabs in the dark). I have had sex with grown men and it was less fireworks and more flickering birthday candles. Anyway I think I could probably write a good erotic couplings story. What are your opinions?

Well, I wrote an incest story, not sure it's good, but that particular kink dosen't appeal to me. I think in some cases you can write a story on a subject that dosen't appeal, but in other's it becomes very problematic. A lot of what is erotic comes in where you place the emphasis of the story. In an F/F story I know what I find erotic and I know what a lot of other women find erotic, so I can play to the strength of what I know.

In incest, I don't know what to stress, what's important to a reader, do I have the participants call each other sis all the time? Is that helping or hurting? Frankly, I don't know. In B&D is it enough to have one partner tied up or do I need to really describe the ropes, cuffs and other restraints? What makes it sexy to a reader? The less you can understand that simple question the harder it becomes to write an erotic and entertaining story.

Moving further along the track I can't write men. I just can't get into a male character's head and if I cannot think for a character it is impossible to make them life like. They become almost parodys or caricatures. The less I understand about a particular category's apeal the more I am forced to rely on cliche, hackneyed and stock ideas, characters etc. It becomes increasingly hard to inject anything fresh and vibrant.

I have tried Scifi and fantasy and done all right. But the basic act is still woman to woman sex. As I try to grow from that concept it becomes ever more difficult to keep it enjoyable.

I envy those who can cross genre at will and keep it enjoyable.

-Colly
 
I'm not sure. I think I could write an OK story, but not a great one. I need a little "oooh, yes, baby!" in order to make the story come to life.
 
I write about a lot of things that I'm not personally into. Judging by the feedback, I must be getting something right ;)

Sabledrake
 
Writing about Things That Don't Turn Me On?

:) I don't think I would have any real problems unless it happens to be something that I consider to be gross and disgusting. I have written some stories involving bondage that were well received, and a couple that included spanking. :cool: I'm not the least turned on by either but I had no trouble writing about them. On the other hand, I don't think I could ever write about golden showers or water sports or mutilation or forcible rape or anything like that since I am so grossed out by the thought, or so opposed to it.

I have never written about incest but I would have no problem. I could write about Bill and Mary meeting in a bar and going to a motel for sex, or I could write about Bill and Mary, brother and sister, having sex when their parents were out of town. In the latter, I would mention the relationship early, then throw in references to "Mom" and "Dad" and other things to keep reinforcing the siblinghood, but the sex acts would be the same for the siblings or for the motel goers.:(
 
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Colleen Thomas said:
In incest, I don't know what to stress, what's important to a reader, do I have the participants call each other sis all the time? Is that helping or hurting? ...

Moving further along the track I can't write men. I just can't get into a male character's head and if I cannot think for a character it is impossible to make them life like. They become almost parodys or caricatures. The less I understand about a particular category's apeal the more I am forced to rely on cliche, hackneyed and stock ideas, characters etc.

I think for many incest fans, it's the relationship that is the turn on; so constant references to the relationship make the story better -- for those fans.

I think that's the difference between an "Incest Story" and a "Story about Incest" -- the former emphasizes the illicit nature of the relationship and the latter emphasizes the relationship itself. Persoanlly, I prefer "stories about incest" to "Incest stories" (within that genre)

One thing many authors often forget, it that men and women are, first and foremost, people. If you can write a story about people having sex, it doesn't really matter what sex they are -- most of the feelings and motivations for men and women aren't really all that different when it comes down to it.

Cliches and parodies are useful tools for building character quickly. If you apply a little thought, and/or deliberately go against a stereotype for contrast -- the sensitive man who prefers making his partner come many times is a common counter-stereotype -- you can make your characters believable (or at least interesting) no matter what sex they are.

As far as writing "fetishes" you don't understand, you only need to know that something turns your character on. Why it turns them on is rarely explored by authors who do understand a particular fetish -- or if it is explored, it is overdone to the point of completely alienating anyone who doesn't share the fetish.

Since every person is unique, the motivations you make up for your character to enjoy a given fetish is probably within the wide range of reasons that real people might enjoy the fetish.

For example, in the stories I've read that involved some degree of foot fetish, the reasons range from an asthetic appreciation of the structure of feet to a depraved interest in bad foot odor -- and numerous variations in between.

If you write stories about people and don't fixate on the sex of the people or why they enjoy a particular act, then you should be able to write for any category.
 
RenzaJones said:
Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?
Of course; most writers do it from time to time.

I have twelve and a half (joint author) novels published for money, all in the BDSM genre, and I have never even spanked someone, let alone tied them up and whipped them; nor have I any desire to do so.

When I have tried to write about things that turn me on, like romantic one-on-one sex between people of my own age group (mature+), I get too interested to be able to write at all well.
 
I have doen it a few times and i seem to pull it off ok!

My "double the pleasure" stories are based on my husband's fantasy to see me and another woman together doing things to please him as well as ourselves. I've got to say the girl on girl element doesn't do much for me but i managed to write it because I know what hubby would love about it and so i concerntrated on those bits.


Also I have written several different fetish type scenarios into custom stories I write and get paid for. I always get paid...last time I got £50 extra for writing a particularly stomaach churning scene involving...well I'll jst say woof woof and leave it at that.


I think that i write my own ideas and turn ons the best but I think I can switch off my own feelings and take on that of a character well enough to write things I find Icky fairly well.
 
RenzaJones said:
After reading the thread on the appeal of incest, I have another quetion to pose. Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?

I have done it. Depending on the motivation for tackling a subject that normally wouldn't appeal to the author, it can be done. For example, I know of several horror authors who despise romances, but wrote a few for the money (they want to write full time, and the romances helped pay the bills). Another motivation could be challenging yourself to see what you can do.

I wrote a story about a homosexual encounter between two men. I'm not against male on male sex, but it isn't my cup of tea. But I was pleased with the results of my experiment in writing.

It's a matter of doing a little research and keeping an open mind.

-Mike B.
 
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Colleen Thomas said:
Well, I wrote an incest story, not sure it's good

Oh hush, Colly. Nothing wrong with your incest story. I liked it, anyway.
 
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otherdarkmeat said:

I wrote a story about a homosexual encounter between two men. I'm not against male on male sex, but it isn't my cup of tea. But I was pleased with the results of my experiment in writing.

It's a matter of doing a little research and keeping an open mind.

-Mike B.

Yep, I remember that, and damn fine story it was, too. To me that's proof positive that it can be done, as I also know how very hetrosexual you are. :devil:

Tate ;)
 
I have written stories about unbirth which seems to work for those who like that.

The Virgin Unbirth (see link to my stories below) is popular but for many people it is just weird (or Euckk!).

It doesn't appeal to me but I seem to have written a story that the Unbirth aficionados like enough to copy.

Og
 
RenzaJones said:
After reading the thread on the appeal of incest, I have another quetion to pose. Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?

I believe so, it's a challange but one to rise to!

Recently my dark enslavement tales required the use of scat, which is as far as I'm concerned about the most obscene thing there is (even more so than Vomit porn). It was, however, really necessary to further develop two of my more interesting characters for the reader to really grasp the level of horror imposed by their Master.

It really turned my stomach to first imagine it and then actually write it, and it remained equally disturbing to read it again in proofing. But I feel I used it effectively, and the one proofer I found that would admit to a fascination with scat said she felt I did it well.

It would appear that Ministry is correct in that a "A mind is a terrible thing to taste."
 
RenzaJones said:
After reading the thread on the appeal of incest, I have another quetion to pose. Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really turn you on?


Like someone else stated, I can't claim that it's good, but "Games" had a decent amount of anal play in it, first a man's wife penetrating him with her finger, then him penetrating her with his penis. Neither particularly turns me on, but the story got at least decent feedback.

Perhaps it would have done better had it been in the Anal category instead of Erotic Couplings. Of course, it had some voyeurism in it too, and some mild (very mild in my viewpoint) non-consent, not to mention...
:rolleyes:
 
Do you think you could write a good erotic story about something that doesn't really

I think I can write well enough about something that doesn't really turn me on. I have one story, "David Scores Online", about male homosexuality, and that is not a subject that turns me on, but it also doesn't turn me off or gross me out. The story was well enough received by readers and I got some very complimentary feedback, even though I am competely indifferent to gay male porn, either live, film or written. I have nothing against it; I just have no interest in it. I don't know if I could write about enemas or golden showers or brown showers or vomit or stuff like that, but I do know that I am not going to. I write erotic, or dirty or smutty or pornographic stories about things that I like to write about; why should I write about something that I find revolting. I will probably write a story about incest some day, but it wouldn't be disgusting, or it wouldn't be posted in literotica. A man molesting his infant son or daughter, or a teenage boy raping his kid sister would be disgusting but they wouldn't be accepted in Literotica. A story about two adult siblings who live in their parents' home, and suddenly develop the hots for each other would be incest, but not disgusting because they would both be operating under their own free will. It would be illegal but, as long as they were careful, not harmful to anybody, so I could write about it.
 
Sabledrake said:
I write about a lot of things that I'm not personally into. Judging by the feedback, I must be getting something right ;)

Sabledrake

Same here. I just think of the other person as me, or my present live in lover, then go back and edit to fit the genre. I also draw on his vivid, and very trashy imagination. The things men come up with sometimes is so gross that it has to work. LOL

DS
 
I think I could probably a story about something that doesn't turn me on, but only to some extent. Some topics are easier for me to fake, but I doubt I'd be good at BDSM stuff. In fact, I just know I'd be terrible at it. On the other hand...it would be a great challenge, but I'd need to have someone to ask questions about the lifestyle.

When it comes to pov, I have actually noticed I prefer to write from a male pov. Strange, but true. Perhaps I'm trying to understand the way they think. No clue if I'm doing it good though!
 
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