Can I get away with no incest in incest?

[lovecraft68]

This is a follow up to my post of getting new sex ideas for the same characters in a long running series. My issue was simply having already written 35+ scenes with the same characters it's getting tough not to be boring. I had a couple of people suggest "starting over" in a new series but that's not an option it would just be the same two in the next series.

I did get an idea however; I have involved both the brother and sister with others sexually (as a lot of the story is done in flashbacks) but always finished with them together. My idea is to have a chapter or two have the erotica involve the two with others but not with each other. Obviously people read incest fo, well... incest. I know if I tried this in a short series I would get hammered but I'm 25+ chapters with a consistent readership who I feel are along for the story more than the sex at this point. With that in mind do you think I could pull this off? The sex will be hotter because it will be a different "combination" and I'll be more inspired to right it. Just wondering if I'll take a beating.

 

[1sickbastard]

I say go for it.

Mark & Megan still have a strong emotional bond and sexual attraction. Let them branch to other partners. They can still 'have sex', but instead of writing about it in detail, you can gloss over it in passing, instead focusing on their 'outside' relationships.

Then if the outside characters develope enough, you can introduce one or two into the inner secret of the brother/sister dynamic, which can add some interesting twists to the story.

 

[sillypanda]

I don't know how you would feel about this, but I have frequently read chapters that crossed genres - started in one, went to another, maybe went back or maybe when to another - you might consider that.

Once I've started a series that I like, I quite often don't even pay attention to the category, I just click the link to the next chapter or click the author's profile for their other works.

I'm quite new as a writer, of course, so I suggest this just as a reader / fan. You know better than anyone what your readers look for and what you feel comfortable writing.

However, just from personal experience, I prefer to follow a story into other genres than read a story in a particular genre that doesn't seem to belong there.

Best of luck with your next chapter(s)!

 

[Weird Harold]

In your specific case, you'd still be writing about characters in a longstanding incestuous relationship. I don't think you'd be in very much trouble with your established readers.

 

[lovecraft68]

I say go for it.

Mark & Megan still have a strong emotional bond and sexual attraction. Let them branch to other partners. They can still 'have sex', but instead of writing about it in detail, you can gloss over it in passing, instead focusing on their 'outside' relationships.

Then if the outside characters develope enough, you can introduce one or two into the inner secret of the brother/sister dynamic, which can add some interesting twists to the story.

I think that's a happy medium to "gloss" over a quickie with the two of them or perhaps even have it just end with it looking like after sex with another they are going right back into the other siblings bed.

On another note and I'll only mention it because we have corresponded otherwise I don't get into to much detail in the posts. What i feel is a bit unique with M/M is no one has ever come into the "Brother/sister" dynamic. for these two. They have never risked it as teens and certainly cannot as extremely successful adults. (although if you read Siblings with Benefits Samhain) there is one other person who knows there secret. Honestly 1sick I think you should check that one out nothing like an orgy on the altar at a Satanic ritual. it's my only venture into group sex as of yet and is as much of a all out stroke fest as anything you'll find in conflicted or party of five.

Personally I like the one on one take. Even in Back Rub for Julia (here's a plug for Fist of Fury) as much as I like the Brother/sister/cousin for the hot sex i find myself disappointed Jack is not going to stay with just his sister but is going to try the "Poly" relationship. So with M/M I will hold to the ideal that
A-they will never take a chance of being found out (at least not in that dumb of a way)
B- although they have had other lovers when they spend time together they are together.

Do like the quickie non detailed sex idea though, kinda just "hint" at it enough to qualify it in the incest category.

 

[lovecraft68]

In your specific case, you'd still be writing about characters in a longstanding incestuous relationship. I don't think you'd be in very much trouble with your established readers.

That's really what I am hoping. Just looking for some more experienced author's to confirm it. Thanks Harold!

 

[lovecraft68]

I don't know how you would feel about this, but I have frequently read chapters that crossed genres - started in one, went to another, maybe went back or maybe when to another - you might consider that.

Once I've started a series that I like, I quite often don't even pay attention to the category, I just click the link to the next chapter or click the author's profile for their other works.

I'm quite new as a writer, of course, so I suggest this just as a reader / fan. You know better than anyone what your readers look for and what you feel comfortable writing.

However, just from personal experience, I prefer to follow a story into other genres than read a story in a particular genre that doesn't seem to belong there.

Best of luck with your next chapter(s)!

Not only have I considered that but tried it back further along. The powers that be at Lit popped it back into incest anyway. The title of the series is Siblings with benefits. I'm sure they feel it won;t fit anywhere else and I won;t "rename" it for a chapter. Good idea though and you're right I look for my favs on their page not by category or new releases.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

They could be having sex with someone else, but thinking about their sibling as they reach the climactic end to the night.

 

[Ldy_Sea]

One writing trick that has never failed is when a story is getting dull add new characters. Unfortunatly I am not familiar with this story but why not add other relatives into the sex or even another incestous set of siblings or the like.

 

[lovecraft68]

One writing trick that has never failed is when a story is getting dull add new characters. Unfortunatly I am not familiar with this story but why not add other relatives into the sex or even another incestous set of siblings or the like.

The main thing is that I am keeping the brother and sister "closed". no one knows of their relationship and they will not risk being caught. There are alos no other siblings or family members involved. This is a twisted type of love story and it is not a stroke fest where everyone from dad to the third cousins jump in. There is a ton of background information and long story short they both have a lot of issues and that's where their relationship started. No offense to the fans of series like "Party of five" but I think it loses its attraction when it becomes a complete "family affair"

 

[1sickbastard]

One writing trick that has never failed is when a story is getting dull add new characters. Unfortunatly I am not familiar with this story but why not add other relatives into the sex or even another incestous set of siblings or the like.

The siblings are the only family they have, so adding relatives to the mix isn't an option.

BUt SeaUrchin does have an idea, Mark or Megan could end up invloved with someone who has had, or is also having (and hiding) an incestous relationship.
You needn't add them into the Mark/Megan relationship. It could function as a spin-off...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Or Blow Stuff Up, as some thriller writer said.

You talk about some very dark happenings in their earlier life-- have something dark happen now, that challenges their relationship and then cements it.

 

[lovecraft68]

The siblings are the only family they have, so adding relatives to the mix isn't an option.

BUt SeaUrchin does have an idea, Mark or Megan could end up invloved with someone who has had, or is also having (and hiding) an incestous relationship.
You needn't add them into the Mark/Megan relationship. It could function as a spin-off...

You know what's funny here? My original draft called for a scene where a third party did join in. If you're following the series Megan mentions that her girlfriend Betty from college became her first female lover. I also mention in Lex Talionis Chapter 1 and 3 that Mark fucks Betty once in awhile. Betty leg Meg drinls to much and does coke. My original outline called for a two chapter scene where Betty seduces Megan, after wards after Mark loses Krissy. Megan has Betty "cheer" mark up after that there was to be a scenario where Meg and Betty are fooling around and totally wasted on coke. Mark (who had been drinking heavily) comes in and Mark and Megan end up fucking the shit out of Betty. I decided to scrap it as one the series is long enough as is and two one of Megan's dilemmas with being with Mark is people finding out. she may not be so concerned if there had already been an incident. Tell you what though from the suggestions I'm getting it was the way to go to a point. On another note I actually feel like a prude. I tell most people I write incest and they think I'm sick on LIT I'm tame because the whole family isn't involved.

 

[lovecraft68]

Or Blow Stuff Up, as some thriller writer said.

You talk about some very dark happenings in their earlier life-- have something dark happen now, that challenges their relationship and then cements it.

That's coming in about 3 more chapter's.

 

[lovecraft68]

The siblings are the only family they have, so adding relatives to the mix isn't an option.

BUt SeaUrchin does have an idea, Mark or Megan could end up invloved with someone who has had, or is also having (and hiding) an incestous relationship.
You needn't add them into the Mark/Megan relationship. It could function as a spin-off...

Hey, just to let you know Fist of Fury and I were at one point discussing the younger version of Mark and Megan running into Jack and Katy (or Julia). Could be fun no? Fist was hung up on which of his girls he would give up to Mark (he had read breaking of Allison which stars Mark without Megan) fist said he couldn't let either of them get treated that way. On my end Jack's dominant ass would have to tone it down as at that age Megan had to be control with a guy or she wouldn't play with him. could still happen though. You read both series what do you think?

 

[1sickbastard]

You know what's funny here? My original draft called for a scene where a third party did join in. If you're following the series Megan mentions that her girlfriend Betty from college became her first female lover. I also mention in Lex Talionis Chapter 1 and 3 that Mark fucks Betty once in awhile. Betty leg Meg drinls to much and does coke. My original outline called for a two chapter scene where Betty seduces Megan, after wards after Mark loses Krissy. Megan has Betty "cheer" mark up after that there was to be a scenario where Meg and Betty are fooling around and totally wasted on coke. Mark (who had been drinking heavily) comes in and Mark and Megan end up fucking the shit out of Betty. I decided to scrap it as one the series is long enough as is and two one of Megan's dilemmas with being with Mark is people finding out. she may not be so concerned if there had already been an incident. Tell you what though from the suggestions I'm getting it was the way to go to a point. On another note I actually feel like a prude. I tell most people I write incest and they think I'm sick on LIT I'm tame because the whole family isn't involved.

Yeah, that's pretty funny.
The thing about incest is that it's all relative...
(Yeah, I said it!)

 

[lovecraft68]

Yeah, that's pretty funny.
The thing about incest is that it's all relative...
(Yeah, I said it!)

Yeah you did. Wasn't bad though

 

[michchick98]

Not only have I considered that but tried it back further along. The powers that be at Lit popped it back into incest anyway. The title of the series is Siblings with benefits. I'm sure they feel it won;t fit anywhere else and I won;t "rename" it for a chapter. Good idea though and you're right I look for my favs on their page not by category or new releases.

If the "theme" of the chapter really doesn't fit the category of the rest of the chapters, be sure to include a note in the Notes field stating this. Otherwise, the moderator/editors will just plunk the story into the same category as the rest figuring it's just a continuation....well, it is...but the subject matter might be different. As for your readers, I can't really say, but if they're loyal, you shouldn't have any problems.

That's all the advice I can offer. I don't read or write incest so I can't give you any more feedback than that.

 

[lovecraft68]

If the "theme" of the chapter really doesn't fit the category of the rest of the chapters, be sure to include a note in the Notes field stating this. Otherwise, the moderator/editors will just plunk the story into the same category as the rest figuring it's just a continuation....well, it is...but the subject matter might be different. As for your readers, I can't really say, but if they're loyal, you shouldn't have any problems.

That's all the advice I can offer. I don't read or write incest so I can't give you any more feedback than that.

You have a point I didn't "say" anything to the moderators in the notes. I think I ma just going to wing it with a chapter featuring the brother with his former lover and have him telling sis the story (while their lying naked in bed) maybe that will sort of satisfy the incest needs. Thank you for your advice!