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Camille Paglia: Trump Already Headed Towards Reelection, Democrats Have Overplayed Their Hand

Posted By Tim Hains
On Date April 19, 2017

New York Times columnist Frank Bruni moderates a 'Times Talks' discussion between legendary feminist Camille Paglia and 'Watch What Happens Live' host Andy Cohen about life in the Trump era.

Paglia says Bruni's newspaper and the Democratic Party still have "soul searching" left to do about why they called 2016 wrong. "It is incumbent upon the defeated party to pull itself together, or else we're going to get the reelection of the present administration," she said.

"I didn't take him seriously at all," she said about the early days of the Trump campaign. "And then, shortly after the very first Republican debate, I saw Diamond & Silk, the African-American sisters doing a pro-Trump attack on Megyn Kelly on their podcast, and... I suddenly saw the populism, and from that moment forward, I could feel the momentum of it."

"The New York media was in an absolute bubble about this," she added.

The rest here, triggered snowflakes call Mom:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ion_democrats_have_overplayed_their_hand.html
 
Sad news for demolished Dems:



Camille Paglia: Trump Already Headed Towards Reelection, Democrats Have Overplayed Their Hand

Posted By Tim Hains
On Date April 19, 2017

New York Times columnist Frank Bruni moderates a 'Times Talks' discussion between legendary feminist Camille Paglia and 'Watch What Happens Live' host Andy Cohen about life in the Trump era.

Paglia says Bruni's newspaper and the Democratic Party still have "soul searching" left to do about why they called 2016 wrong. "It is incumbent upon the defeated party to pull itself together, or else we're going to get the reelection of the present administration," she said.

"I didn't take him seriously at all," she said about the early days of the Trump campaign. "And then, shortly after the very first Republican debate, I saw Diamond & Silk, the African-American sisters doing a pro-Trump attack on Megyn Kelly on their podcast, and... I suddenly saw the populism, and from that moment forward, I could feel the momentum of it."

"The New York media was in an absolute bubble about this," she added.

The rest here, triggered snowflakes call Mom:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ion_democrats_have_overplayed_their_hand.html

Do you still drive that plastic shitbox you call "American Muscle"?
 
Sad news for demolished Dems:



Camille Paglia: Trump Already Headed Towards Reelection, Democrats Have Overplayed Their Hand

Posted By Tim Hains
On Date April 19, 2017

New York Times columnist Frank Bruni moderates a 'Times Talks' discussion between legendary feminist Camille Paglia and 'Watch What Happens Live' host Andy Cohen about life in the Trump era.

Paglia says Bruni's newspaper and the Democratic Party still have "soul searching" left to do about why they called 2016 wrong. "It is incumbent upon the defeated party to pull itself together, or else we're going to get the reelection of the present administration," she said.

"I didn't take him seriously at all," she said about the early days of the Trump campaign. "And then, shortly after the very first Republican debate, I saw Diamond & Silk, the African-American sisters doing a pro-Trump attack on Megyn Kelly on their podcast, and... I suddenly saw the populism, and from that moment forward, I could feel the momentum of it."

"The New York media was in an absolute bubble about this," she added.

The rest here, triggered snowflakes call Mom:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ion_democrats_have_overplayed_their_hand.html

I wrote about the Trump phenomena over a year ago, in Jan. of 2016 I believe and how he should be taken seriously. I was personally attacked non-related to the subject, as you have been (and will be), and called silly for even thinking that Trump was a serious candidate. Of course that's all history now.

The left, and a not insubstantial portion of the right, still hasn't come to grips with Trump. First and foremost is the fact that he's not ideologically driven. He doesn't fit conveniently into some political equivalent of a Biblical 'rule' set. It drives both sides nuts trying to figure him out. Further is the fact that the guy has two faces as far as they're concerned. There is the public Trump (tweet-o-rama) and the private Trump, measured and decisive, action. You may disagree with his action, but he is going to take decisive action.

Trump sees a problem and he wants it resolved, off his desk "You're fired" if you will. N. Korea is a good example. That's a can that's been kicked down the road for decades now. Trump wants it off his desk and it appears that the Chinese are believers in that regard. Trump has assessed, and rightly so, that kicking that can down the road isn't going to make the solution any easier.

Camille is spot on in the assessment that you can't fight a fire if you have the wrong address. The democrat party has to wake up to the fact that politics as usual isn't going to work with this administration.

Ishmael
 
~Correction~


Abu Ivanka al-Amriki is only driving one side nuts.


The other side has been nuttier than rat crap in a pistachio cannery for decades now...
 
I wrote about the Trump phenomena over a year ago, in Jan. of 2016 I believe and how he should be taken seriously. I was personally attacked non-related to the subject, as you have been (and will be), and called silly for even thinking that Trump was a serious candidate. Of course that's all history now.

The left, and a not insubstantial portion of the right, still hasn't come to grips with Trump. First and foremost is the fact that he's not ideologically driven. He doesn't fit conveniently into some political equivalent of a Biblical 'rule' set. It drives both sides nuts trying to figure him out. Further is the fact that the guy has two faces as far as they're concerned. There is the public Trump (tweet-o-rama) and the private Trump, measured and decisive, action. You may disagree with his action, but he is going to take decisive action.

Trump sees a problem and he wants it resolved, off his desk "You're fired" if you will. N. Korea is a good example. That's a can that's been kicked down the road for decades now. Trump wants it off his desk and it appears that the Chinese are believers in that regard. Trump has assessed, and rightly so, that kicking that can down the road isn't going to make the solution any easier.

Camille is spot on in the assessment that you can't fight a fire if you have the wrong address. The democrat party has to wake up to the fact that politics as usual isn't going to work with this administration.

Ishmael

Good to hear from someone other than a couple of triggered paranoids on my ignore list. Camille has correctly pinpointed the Democrat pathology that ushers them into defeat time and time again. The short answer is a delusional denial of political reality. We saw it in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders. We'll see it again in Elizabeth Warren as well.

They know their doctrine requires the acceptance of a basket of political superstitions about the United Sates and an outright suspension of human experience. They err however when they project their own willingness to accept this intellectual mythology as universal among the voting majority of American body politic.

Despite their propaganda arms 24/7 efforts in their behalf regular voting Americans consistently reject their flawed and unAmerican values. I hope they continue their insanity because it propels them further from the mainstream and into the kind of political purgatory they're trapped in now.
 
Camille is spot on in the assessment that you can't fight a fire if you have the wrong address. The democrat party has to wake up to the fact that politics as usual isn't going to work with this administration.

That is why, starting with the Women's March and continuing with the Justice Democrats, etc., we have seen an upsurge in politics not as usual.
 
That is why, starting with the Women's March and continuing with the Justice Democrats, etc., we have seen an upsurge in politics not as usual.

Bullshit, same old tired left wing crap productive America is sick of and ran to Trump as a way to ridicule it.
 
Please, all we're seeing is another chaotic Democrat meltdown. They aren't going to become relevant turning further to the left.

Turning left is the only way the Dems can become relevant. They lost in 2016 partly because the American people are sick and tired of the plutocracy, and the establishment Dems (like the Pubs) are controlled by it and have posed no serious challenge to it in decades, and a lot of people got the idea Trump could and would. The Dems can start winning again if they change enough to present that serious challenge to plutocracy, but they can't win on a promise to continue with the economic neoliberal status quo, and they can't win on social/cultural issues alone.
 
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Turning left is the only way the Dems can become relevant. They lost in 2016 because the American people are sick and tired of the plutocracy, and the establishment Dems are controlled by it and have posed no serious challenge to it in decades, and a lot of people got the idea Trump could and would. The Dems can start winning again if they change enough to present that serious challenge to plutocracy, but they can't win on a promise to continue with the economic neoliberal status quo, and they can't win on social/cultural issues alone.

Why would they challenge the plutocracy they protect?

LOL....how can we have a neoliberal status quo and a plutocracy??

How exactly does a plutocracy exist without their gummint buddies protecting them??
 
Turning left is the only way the Dems can become relevant. They lost in 2016 partly because the American people are sick and tired of the plutocracy, and the establishment Dems (like the Pubs) are controlled by it and have posed no serious challenge to it in decades, and a lot of people got the idea Trump could and would. The Dems can start winning again if they change enough to present that serious challenge to plutocracy, but they can't win on a promise to continue with the economic neoliberal status quo, and they can't win on social/cultural issues alone.

Bullshit, America isn't ready to be Sovietized by the Stalinists running the Democrat Party.
 
Why would they challenge the plutocracy they protect?

The Establishment won't. But the Justice Democrats, if they succeed in Tea Partying the Dems from the left, will.

LOL....how can we have a neoliberal status quo and a plutocracy??

Because neoliberal economic policies are exactly what the plutocracy wants.

Bot, you are always pointing out that business interests dominate our government. And many including me would agree with you. That itself is plutocracy. As for neoliberalism -- Bot, have you never noticed that WRT to your wilder assertions, such as denying that economic neoliberalism is what we have had since the 1980s; or asserting that what we do have is "corporatism"; or that what you mean by corporatism is somehow incompatible with neoliberalism but indistinguishable from both socialism and fascism -- have you never noticed that practically nobody agrees with you? No politician, no political scientist, no economist, no think-tanker, no journalist or pundit or commentator anywhere along the spectrum. Do you really think it's possible that a farmer on a messageboard is right about those things, and all the people who devote all their attention to political matters and public affairs and economics are wrong?

Consensus reality. Learn it. Live it. Be it.
 
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Bullshit, America isn't ready to be Sovietized by the Stalinists running the Democrat Party.

:rolleyes: Neither the Establishment Dems nor the Justice Dems are in any sense Stalinist, and America is ready for anyone willing to take on the plutocracy.
 
:rolleyes: Neither the Establishment Dems nor the Justice Dems are in any sense Stalinist, and America is ready for anyone willing to take on the plutocracy.

Tom Perez and Ellison meet that specification, so does Warren.
 
The "willing to take on the plutocracy" specification, yes; the "Stalinist" specification, no; the two are not synonymous, you know.

Maybe not in Russia but standing in America and advocating their forms of government totalitarianism, they represent the next best thing.
 
Maybe not in Russia but standing in America and advocating their forms of government totalitarianism, they represent the next best thing.

Social democracy is not government totalitarianism, not even by American standards, it is only a new New Deal, and polls on every relevant issue show the people are ready for it -- ready for single-payer health care, ready for a more income-progressive tax system, etc.
 
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