California imposes comparable worth

[renard_ruse]

Apparently the extremist legislature has actually imposed the most extreme feminazi fantasy of all time, comparable worth (renamed inaccurately as "equal pay"). I actually hadn't even heard about this. Look for California to further become a shithole with lunatic social engineering like this.

 

[renard_ruse]

Why would anyone become a construction worker when being a cashier will pay the same.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Why would anyone become a construction worker when being a cashier will pay the same.

Because it won't.

 

[Sean]

Why would anyone become a construction worker when being a cashier will pay the same.

You have absolutely no understanding of what comparable worth actually means, do you?

 

[BotanyBoy]

You have absolutely no understanding of what comparable worth actually means, do you?

No he does...it means welfare but he doesn't understand how it works or the reasoning behind it.

 

[RoryN]

No he does...it means welfare but he doesn't understand how it works or the reasoning behind it.

...which, as Sean pointed out, indicates he has absolutely no understanding of what comparable worth actually means.

 

[BotanyBoy]

...which, as Sean pointed out, indicates he has absolutely no understanding of what comparable worth actually means.

True and you're right.

I should have phrased it differently.




Hey may not understand it but he does recognize it for what it is.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's not welfare it's just kind of beside the point ultimately. The fact that they are making a quality argument that secretaries are underpaid by comparison to construction workers isn't a legal problem so much as women need to just all get together and refuse to work for the next decade.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's not welfare

It's either that or oppression depending on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

You can no longer pay the guy who works 70hr weeks hard as fuck and pulls his boss's teeth every year to get every penny he can out of his employer, more than the 39.99 hr zero fucks given shit bag, if the shitbag has a vagina. Because that would be discrimination. I'm almost positive this law will work only one way and do nothing to protect men who are discriminated against...because that would be misogyny.

So good workers either can't get what they are worth, no raises or special pay for anyone, or they have to start handing out extra under performers should someone of the opposite gender is performing and thus being paid more.

it's just kind of beside the point ultimately. The fact that they are making a quality argument that secretaries are underpaid by comparison to construction workers isn't a legal problem so much as women need to just all get together and refuse to work for the next decade.

Why would they do that when they can just get liburhulz to write laws to punish their employers for paying them the least they can get away with ?

Negotiating salary and or working more hours is hard.....

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's either that or oppression depending on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

You can no longer pay the guy who works 70hr weeks hard as fuck and pulls his boss's teeth every year to get every penny he can out of his employer, more than the 39.99 hr zero fucks given shit bag, if the shitbag has a vagina. Because that would be discrimination.

So good workers either can't get what they are worth, no raises or special pay for anyone, or they have to start handing out extra under performers should someone of the opposite gender is performing and thus being paid more.



Why would they do that when they can just get liburhulz to write laws to punish their employers for paying them the least they can get away with ?

Negotiating salary and or working more hours is hard.....

It's neither welfare not oppression no matter which side of the fence your on. It's just kinda beside the point. The reality is that the person with the vagina in this case is objectively worth more than that dick who works 70 hours a week. Odds are she works 80. I've been in enough companies even construction for a year to know that in no office that I've ever seen is the secretary a dumb bitch answering the phone. What she is the second boss who runs most stuff while the real boss focuses on growing the business. The idea that she's not worth more than a random grunt has to do with the fact that she has a vagina.

Negotiating salary is nearly impossible when you've got centuries of being put upon on you. And frankly my issue with writing these laws is that it won't solve the problem. They'll just pretend she's got some new job and repeat the cycle. They should simply grind the country to a halt and hope like hell we don't all die in the process.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's neither welfare not oppression no matter which side of the fence your on. It's just kinda beside the point.

You can lie to yourself and others with that load all day long but I'm not buying. Any time the gov shits one someone else to get someone else paid more it's welfare/oppression.

The reality is that the person with the vagina in this case is objectively worth more than that dick who works 70 hours a week. Odds are she works 80.

Actually part of the 'pay gap' is partly due to the fact that on average women work less hours and are some like 68% more likely to interrupt their careers to care for a dependent family member.

I've been in enough companies even construction for a year to know that in no office that I've ever seen is the secretary a dumb bitch answering the phone. What she is the second boss who runs most stuff while the real boss focuses on growing the business. The idea that she's not worth more than a random grunt has to do with the fact that she has a vagina.

This is all made up liburhul bullshit theory crafting to deflect from the fact the 'gender' pay gap is largely due to the fact that women don't work as much, they work far less risky jobs, they take more career interruptions and are less likely to ask for raises.

Negotiating salary is nearly impossible when you've got centuries of being put upon on you.

Oh bull fucking shit excuses excuses.

My sister negotiated herself 750k a year with big pharma and my gangy negotiated billion dollar deals in DC for over 20 years back in teh day (81-03). That's AFTER she spend 15 years building a construction empire as a woman in the 70's hardballing guys in deals worth tens of millions.

If they along with millions of other women can do it no woman in this country has any excuse other than she didn't pull her big girl panties up and walk the fuck away from the negotiating table when she should have.

And frankly my issue with writing these laws is that it won't solve the problem. They'll just pretend she's got some new job and repeat the cycle. They should simply grind the country to a halt and hope like hell we don't all die in the process.

EXACTLY!!! until they walk away from the shitty offer they keep choking down they will keep getting fucked, it's just that simple.

And any laws they write to try and fix that are just welfare/oppression and will eventually be wormed around.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So what about your sister? A freak occurance doth not a rule make and I've read the law, this is about comparably important jobs. We know that once you factor in everything women STILL make less, as do minorities with the exception of Asians and Asians only barely squeak it out at the middle top, even they don't seem to keep up at the top level.

 

[4yourpleasureiam]

Now children, remember it is not a win loose situation. We all get 1st place ribbons for participating. Yes Johnny even you who hid in the closet while the class learned the valuable lesson of being getting a 1st place ribbon, you also get a 1st place ribbon because gosh because you deserve it. Grope hug now.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So what about your sister? A freak occurance
doth not a rule make

They aren't freak occurrences....there are millions of women out there every day negotiating big deals like fuckin' bawss's .

I got 2 in SF that hard ball me every fucking chance they get...bustin' mah bawlz on price points.

I've seen them on TV and read all manner of articles and books about women out there flippin n' stackin'.

If they can do it so can Suzy the secretary.

and I've read the law, this is about comparably important jobs.

You mean arbitrarily re-valued jobs via government bullshit.

We know that once you factor in everything women STILL make less

Most of the relatively sane sources I've read say by a whopping 3-6% depending on who's doing the research/calculations. And that's really only up at the top. Down below filthy fucking rich there are like 700+ career fields women actually get paid more in, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION!

But they still take more time off and choose lower risk/pay jobs than average non filthy fuckin' rich guys.

as do minorities with the exception of Asians and Asians only barely squeak it out at the middle top, even they don't seem to keep up at the top level.

And no one will for a very very very long time...the old money is what it is, but THEY are the freaks, the exceptions, not the rule. There are only like 250 of them in the whole fucking country.

 

[Sean Renaud]

3-6% is statisically signifant. Most of what I've read suggests closely to 5-8 but still. Yes your sister is a freak occurance, or hell if we play the odds she's getting 750k when she'd have close to 800k if she had a dick but go on believing what you want. The bottom line is you won this argument and until and unless liberals decide to stop trying to use the law as a tool and simply decide to let the country burn nothing will change.

And if they do the country will burn and we'll all starve to death. So I vote we keep being bitches.

 

[BotanyBoy]

3-6% is statisically signifant. Most of what I've read suggests closely to 5-8 but still. Yes your sister is a freak occurance, or hell if we play the odds she's getting 750k when she'd have close to 800k if she had a dick but go on believing what you want. The bottom line is you won this argument and until and unless liberals decide to stop trying to use the law as a tool and simply decide to let the country burn nothing will change.

And if they do the country will burn and we'll all starve to death. So I vote we keep being bitches.

Keep pretending it's 1915 and poor poor women are so oppressed they can't negotiate for themselves and need the government to do it for them.

Make sure to ignore the millions and millions of women who negotiate money into their pockets EVERY DAY, so you can cry about the ones that won't do it for themselves. They HAVE to be victims or teh narrative falls apart.

And reality is she replaced a man and he was paid almost 120k a year less because she sold the board of directors on her skillz. She showed them what she did for other companies, they haggled a price and she got it. So, you're just going to have to sell that 'all women all victims all the time' lie elsewhere bub I know far to many women who have talked millions into their pockets to buy that big pile of bewww shit.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Keep pretending it's 1915 and poor poor women are so oppressed they can't negotiate for themselves and need the government to do it for them.

Make sure to ignore the millions and millions of women who negotiate money into their pockets EVERY DAY, so you can cry about the ones that won't do it for themselves. They HAVE to be victims or teh narrative falls apart.

And reality is she replaced a man and he was paid almost 120k a year less because she sold the board of directors on her skillz. She showed them what she did for other companies, they haggled a price and she got it. So I'm sorry the all women all victims all the time narrative is a load of shit....sell that lie elsewhere bub I know far to many women who have talked millions into their pockets to buy that big pile of bewww shit.

They can't. Tis a simple fact, just because oppression changed from legal to simply institutionalized doesn't change the facts.

The stats show that by millions and millions you mean it doesn't happen.

He replacing a man means shit all do you happen to have all his educational stats and other performance records to show he was as good at his job as she is? If not your kinda full of it, but whatever you win.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They can't. Tis a simple fact,

They can and do....tis a simple lie you're pushing.

The stats show that by millions and millions you mean it doesn't happen.

It happens all day every day, wake up.

He replacing a man means shit all do you happen to have all his educational stats and other performance records to show he was as good at his job as she is.

IRRELEVANT! She is a woman and according to you she CAN'T do that because shes a woman. Even though she's done it a few times now.

You HAVE to call bullshit on anything I say that doesn't fit the narrative because you say it's not possible because woman = victim that can't negotiate her own terms of employment/pay.

You want to backpedal and admit women are perfectly capable of conducting business and do so on a daily basis or are you sticking with the liburhul delusion that women are totally powerless victims that need government to negotiate their employment/pay for them?

 

[NOIRTRASH]

This state imposed comparable pay. Then they had serious staffing problems when no one wanted to do the shit jobs. Shit jobs always paid more till Jeb Bush was elected and brought comparable pay. In the end Bush hadda bring back the higher pay and premiums, to fill the shit positions.

The girlie clerks want the money but refuse to go work in the ghetto in the middle of the night alone.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Why would anyone become a construction worker when being a cashier will pay the same.

Because it won't.

When you promote minimum wage laws for cashiers and harbor illegals who will do construction work for less than citizens will, then yes, it will pay about the same.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Now children, remember it is not a win loose situation. We all get 1st place ribbons for participating. Yes Johnny even you who hid in the closet while the class learned the valuable lesson of being getting a 1st place ribbon, you also get a 1st place ribbon because gosh because you deserve it. Grope hug now.

*chuckle*


I like this query alt.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Technology companies need to get the fuck out of CA and let the liberals fix CA, and make it into Detroit 2.0

 

[trysail]

My review of Liberal Fascism the other day provoked a very long comments thread and lots of strong views. I was therefore interested to see this article by Joel Kotkin - a Democrat, albeit a conservative one.

-Andrew W. Montford​

Today climate change has become the killer app for expanding state control, for example, helping Jerry Brown find his inner Duce. But the authoritarian urge is hardly limited to climate-related issues. It can be seen on college campuses, where uniformity of belief is increasingly mandated. In Europe, the other democratic bastion, the continental bureaucracy now controls ever more of daily life on the continent. You don’t want thousands of Syrian refugees in your town, but the EU knows better. You will take them and like it, or be labeled a racist.
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[BotanyBoy]

When you promote minimum wage laws for cashiers and harbor illegals who will do construction work for less than citizens will, then yes, it will pay about the same.

Except they don't, so get a clue and try again.