By Request: Muffie's Porn Board Speech Redux

KillerMuffin

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This isn't a porn board. This isn't an erotica board either. This isn't a sex board. We have those, namely the Sexual Role Playing Board and the Amateur Pic Feedback Board.

This is a community. We were brought together by a common interest in pornographic/erotic/smut stories and happened into this particular place. This is a place where we discuss everything from politics, war, and social ills to who is wearing green panties, what kind of fruit would we be, and fun flirting. This is a well-rounded community where people get together to talk about anything that pleases them.

We are all human beings. We all have good days when we're friendly and we all have bad days. Some of us are passive, most assertive, some aggressive; just like every other community in existence. Because we are a whole community of human beings, we will have things that aren't necessarily fun, that aren't very friendly, and that generally demonstrate the ugly side of human nature. This is, actually, a good thing. It gives the people who come here a place to be completely themselves.

You can be whomever you want here. Most of us figured out that the best person to be is yourself. One of the greatest, and rarest, qualities of this board is the fact that you do not have to censor yourself. Only a few things are taboo: spam, posting another's private information, and physical threats (see forum guidelines, bottom of page). This is a freedom that you just don’t find anywhere else on the planet. There is no where that you can say whatever you like without fear of retribution from the local constabulary or civil litigation.

To call this place a porn board is to cheapen the friendships that have developed here. If this were just a porn board, or even an erotic board, then there would be no lasting friendships, there would be no lives touched and changed. Why not? Because the only thing that would exist here would be sex and that is not something you can base a commitment of oneself on.

Every last one of us has made good, close friends here. We didn't do with cybersex. We didn't do it looking at pornographic pictures or erotic art. We didn't do it by discussing sexual issues. We did it by reading a wide variety of opinions by those friends, deciding we liked their posting style, and then we began a personal dialogue that deepened into friendship. People have moved to different countries because this board and the people in it made that possible. People have left abusive homes and moved across the country to have the basis of a successful start in life all because of the people on this board.

When anyone refers to this place as a porn board, they are denying the very friendships that surround this place. They are denying the strong and wonderful communications that exist here. They are denying the fact that people in this community touch each other’s lives and make a real difference. To say this is a porn board denies the humanity in it.

People come here for solace when they hurt. They come here to vent when they are angry. They come here to flirt when they want to have fun. They come here to discuss issues that disturb them. They come here be with their friends. They come here to troll because they have an inadequacy within themselves to fill. No one comes here only for sex. People who start out that way quickly leave or come back for other reasons. Why? This is not a porn board.



You're welcome, darlin. :)
 
Purple Haze said:
Here's a pic of me and Killer...

Man I dunno who's funnier haze, you or Raw.....you guys crack me up...Thanks!
I think we need to have a joke off........
 
Do you think, Muff, that only some of us think about it that way..Lit being a community? Maybe for some thats not what it is. Maybe thats why they behave the way they do, they don't feel a part of anything.
 
I think of lit as a community, and
am very pleased I was directed here by
someone I got to know on the net.

Thanks for the reminder KM.

Merry Christmas to all. :)

:rose:
 
estevie said:
Do you think, Muff, that only some of us think about it that way..Lit being a community? Maybe for some thats not what it is. Maybe thats why they behave the way they do, they don't feel a part of anything.

I'm sure that's true for a few. However, a lot of people show up and behave like assholes simply because they can. The don't feel the need to be a part of anything.

They show one face to the board and then they show another in PM. They "play" on the board, being as nasty as they wanna, and offer you sweetness and love in PM. Perhaps they don't feel a part of anything simply because they not only don't wish to be a part of anything, but they hold the entire community in derision.
 
Bravo, KM... BRAVO!

Well said and more...

And damn if I didn't wish I had said it!

You rock.
 
You're right, KM

I have found a few close friends here because of my interest of the romance stories on Lit, which made me venture on the boards.

These people have supported me, and listened, while giving advice that I hope to take up one day.
Some of the people I befriended turned out to be a disapointment to me, but they aren't to other people.
I choose not to take part in the more serious threads, but that's me.
I never think of it as just a porn board, but a place to laugh and perhaps "cry" on a friends shoulder.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know I like your post.
:rose:
 
I read that and all I could think was "that was true in December 2002, but that's not how it is now."

Very sad to think that.
 
It IS how it is now. If not, you're the one who has changed, not the board.
 
I'm amazed at Killswitch's transformation from trolling kiss ass, to trolling racist.
 
Cheyenne said:
It IS how it is now. If not, you're the one who has changed, not the board.

I know I've changed. I'll be the first to admit this place has done much for me. I've grown in many ways directly as a result of the people I've interacted with here since April 2002. But the General Board in particular HAS changed over the past two years, and in my opinion (and many others who have spoken to me about it) it has not been for the better.

There is a vein of maliciousness that has taken over the place as a cancer, nay, it has been fed and encouraged to fester and grow. Most people put off by it have simply left. The list is depressingly long of those who's posts I once enjoyed, but who have, over the past year especially, left Lit instead of standing up to the bullshit.

In 2002 this was a much more open and caring place, where people felt safe to share personal information and genuinely help each other publically. Now, sadly, that caring is done mostly behind the scenes. Now days, need and vulnerability are seized on by the blood-lusted pack as weakness to be pounced on and devoured. Perhaps that pack was active in 2002, but they weren't the driving force of the GB as they are now.

Those who will discredit me and my opinion might care to examine their own participation in such pack activities before doing so.
 
someplace said:
I know I've changed. I'll be the first to admit this place has done much for me. I've grown in many ways directly as a result of the people I've interacted with here since April 2002. But the General Board in particular HAS changed over the past two years, and in my opinion (and many others who have spoken to me about it) it has not been for the better.

There is a vein of maliciousness that has taken over the place as a cancer, nay, it has been fed and encouraged to fester and grow. Most people put off by it have simply left. The list is depressingly long of those who's posts I once enjoyed, but who have, over the past year especially, left Lit instead of standing up to the bullshit.

In 2002 this was a much more open and caring place, where people felt safe to share personal information and genuinely help each other publically. Now, sadly, that caring is done mostly behind the scenes. Now days, need and vulnerability are seized on by the blood-lusted pack as weakness to be pounced on and devoured. Perhaps that pack was active in 2002, but they weren't the driving force of the GB as they are now.


Those who will discredit me and my opinion might care to examine their own participation in such pack activities before doing so

.

Sure there's change. I don't think it has been a negative in many respects.

Maybe it was important to learn that sharing too much information on the web isn't a good idea, even if you do it under an assumed name.

Maybe you can still have the positive interactions if you haven't become bitter.

Maybe you can adjust to the fact that there are differing opinions and different styles and that's all good.

I highlighted that last sentence in your quote because I found it offensive. One of those "If you don't agree with me and my opinion, then you must be wrong." type statements that cause part of the problems that you are complaining about...
 
someplace said:
Those who will discredit me and my opinion might care to examine their own participation in such pack activities before doing so.

That was a nice little addition. Now anyone who disagrees with you is a pack member.

If it sucks so bad why are you still here?
 
ksmybuttons said:
I highlighted that last sentence in your quote because I found it offensive. One of those "If you don't agree with me and my opinion, then you must be wrong." type statements that cause part of the problems that you are complaining about...
Discrediting her and disagreeing with her aren't necessarily the same thing.

I don't have a problem with anyone disagreeing with someone. I have a problem with the grade school mentality that usually permeates such disagreement.

You know what I mean. When one person responds to your posts with "What a fucking moron" or something similar, than all the zombies jump in with the fact that your father obviously fucked goats.

That's not discussion. And it's what this board has degenerated into.
 
I still marvel at the idea that there are people who think that there can't be a handful of individuals in a particular place who agree on the same things.

If people support each other in having the same opinions or likes or dislikes, then you're accused of being in a "clique" or a pack.
 
MWG said:
I still marvel at the idea that there are people who think that there can't be a handful of individuals in a particular place who agree on the same things.

If people support each other in having the same opinions or likes or dislikes, then you're accused of being in a "clique" or a pack.


You gang up on just about anybody who disagrees with you. Watch, your little gang will come harp on me now that I dare say it.
 
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