Bush & The Environment

[lavender]

 

[medjay]

A bird in the hand is worth more than a Bush.

 

[teddybear4play]

How do you grade his performance?

In lieu of the numerous days of pollution warnings and how the pollution makes me feel (it's hell if you have migraines) I'm quite pissed that there isn't more activity to help assist our environment.

Bush, in my opinion, is an anti-environmentalist.

Ah, but he selected a woman for the head of the EPA. Tokenization is lovely.

What exactly would you like him to do?

And I love how you just naturally assume that the appointment of Christine Todd Whitman was "tokenization."

I also love how most of the "natural" areas in this country, especially out west, are heavily Republican, while many environmentalists live in big dirty cities. That amuses me.

TB4p

 

[alltherage]

I give him a d-. The single biggest environmental objective for this country out to be to end our dependence on foriegn oil. To do so would require an increase in the fuel economy standards set by the government of 3 per cent. Does not seem much but in order to achieve that much savings we would have to redesign or drastically cut the production and sales of SUVS.

A cut of that much would mean cleaner air, water, and it would mean that further drilling for oil would become less necessary thus preserving wilderness. It would free up our government to speak truthfully when discussing the middle east and once and for all we could confront the hypocracy of the Saudi's.

To do any of this we would need a president and congress not addicted to the money of oil companies, car companies, unions, shippers, etc etc etc. all in all i think the majority of politicians suck canary eggs.

 

[lavender]

 

[bluntforcemama]

He's a total Nitwit on vacation.

 

[RawHumor]

I give him a d-. The single biggest environmental objective for this country out to be to end our dependence on foriegn oil. To do so would require an increase in the fuel economy standards set by the government of 3 per cent.

3 percent? May I ask where you got that figure?

 

[SnowMedic]

Anti-Enviro

i think he's just pro business...if the environment fits in, he would worry about that too...i wish he would thought...

having majored in Environmental Science in college, sometimes i get scared...but i always have hope...

in my opinion the Environmental Regulation has to come from the business and industry of the world...economics drives business...and governement will follow if business goes that way...Sustainable Development...if you havn't heard of it...look it up...live it, learn it, love it...its the way of the future!

-SnowMedic

 

[alltherage]

alltherage,

Why haven't we made mad passionate love behind the grocery store yet?

I was waitiing but in the smog choked ally I guess we missed each other. woe is me.

 

[alltherage]

3 percent? May I ask where you got that figure?

That is a figure i have heard quoted on a few occasions by people I trust. It may be 4 percent or perhaps even 5 percent. Even if that was the case the problem remains the same. There has been next to no effort to resolve our energy problems through real sacrefice on the part of consumers. I mean really. Do we really need to fit the whole soccer tean in one suv. have american males penis' shrunk to such a degree that the only way to prove their manhood it to drive a bigger or faster car.
Has anyone asked themselves why afganistan is so important? Oil. Russian oil and pipelines. Its the grand game folks. We all need to wake the heck up.

 

[markb325]

How do you grade his performance?

(it's hell if you have migraines)

I have been fighting the damn things all summer. It doesn't help that we have been in the red for the past three weeks for polution. If it hit our highest level on the polution watch I would be up the creek with out a paddle(hell forget the paddle I would need the boat).

 

[RawHumor]

That is a figure i have heard quoted on a few occasions by people I trust. It may be 4 percent or perhaps even 5 percent. Even if that was the case the problem remains the same. There has been next to no effort to resolve our energy problems through real sacrefice on the part of consumers. I mean really. Do we really need to fit the whole soccer tean in one suv. have american males penis' shrunk to such a degree that the only way to prove their manhood it to drive a bigger or faster car.
Has anyone asked themselves why afganistan is so important? Oil. Russian oil and pipelines. Its the grand game folks. We all need to wake the heck up.

The reason I asked is that my company is in the auto part industry. A few percent may not sound like a lot, but it's not always as easy as using tupperware instead of steel for your hood or something like that.

 

[brokenbrainwave]

I'd say he has done a great job, who needs animals and trees any ole way

 

[lavender]

 

[alltherage]

No. That just can't be true.

*waves flag*

Whoops. Got pompous again. Sorry. (slinks silently off the deck into the cold cold ocean of oblivian which is her lot.)

 

[Calamity Jane]

The reason I asked is that my company is in the auto part industry. A few percent may not sound like a lot, but it's not always as easy as using tupperware instead of steel for your hood or something like that.

But isn't that basically what they're doing? My brand new truck is made out of far flimsier stuff than the one that was 3 years older. They've had to go very lightweight to meet current fuel economy standards.

Not everyone needs to drive as SUV, but those of us who require larger vehicles should at least get to drive safe ones.

Asking how Bush feels about the environment is like asking how Ashcroft feels about women.

 

[RawHumor]

But isn't that basically what they're doing? My brand new truck is made out of far flimsier stuff than the one that was 3 years older. They've had to go very lightweight to meet current fuel economy standards.

Yes, it IS what they're doing. My point was that as cars get more and more efficient and emissions get lower and lower, each percent gets harder and more expensive to cut off.

 

[sexy-girl]

before the american election i was hearing analysts here in england saying that the next american president would have to get americans away from their big car love and maybe in line with european car standards

it doesn't seem like bush has even attempted this ... and the dealings of international environmental affairs hasn't exactly impressed me either with him failing to ratify the kyoto treaty

he had an awful lot of money from oil companies in his election funding and that doesn't exactly inspire me for how much importance he will be giving future environmental issues either


i also see a lot of news reporting and government officials trying to discredit environmentalists as being nut balls ... environmentalists got blamed for the recent forest fires in america and i've noticed this happening more and more

 

[alltherage]

But isn't that basically what they're doing? My brand new truck is made out of far flimsier stuff than the one that was 3 years older. They've had to go very lightweight to meet current fuel economy standards.

Not everyone needs to drive as SUV, but those of us who require larger vehicles should at least get to drive safe ones.

Asking how Bush feels about the environment is like asking how Ashcroft feels about women.

up until now I think the more reactionary forces in the Bush administration have been covered by the war on terror. Ashcroft is on such example, but i take solice in the fact that he lost his reelection bid to a dead man. That takes skill and long after he is forgotten as attorney general he will be remembered for that. A tiny footnote in history for a tiny headed man. yehaaaaaaa. There is a god.

 

[Calamity Jane]

he had an awful lot of money from oil companies in his election funding and that doesn't exactly inspire me for how much importance he will be giving future environmental issues either

It's really not in an oil man's best interest to protect the environment, though, is it?

 

[sexy-girl]

It's really not in an oil man's best interest to protect the environment, though, is it?

exactly ... but for me the environment is important ... so i wouldnt of voted for him i guess

 

[Calamity Jane]

Ashcroft is on such example, but i take solice in the fact that he lost his reelection bid to a dead man.

Yeah, but had I known that by electing the dead man, I was sending Ashcroft to more power in Washington, I may have rethought my vote.

 

[alltherage]

Yeah, but had I known that by electing the dead man, I was sending Ashcroft to more power in Washington, I may have rethought my vote.

Its that damn Peter principal. fuck all.

 

[RawHumor]

Asking how Bush feels about the environment is like asking how Ashcroft feels about women.

Actually, that one I just don't get.

Is he anti-woman because he is pro-life?

 

[brokenbrainwave]

Yeah, but had I known that by electing the dead man, I was sending Ashcroft to more power in Washington, I may have rethought my vote.

LOL the joke ended up being on ya'll (and the rest of us)