Bush has been in office about a year.

[Azwed]

I am going to post two polls. This poll, the first one, will ask you to rate Bush's job. How good a job is he doing? That is all do not take into account how you feel about the man personaly.

I know it is hard to seperate personaly feelings about Bush's personality, ideology, or anything else but that is what you must do.

Only consider the job he is doing. In the second post you can say what you think of him as a person.

 

[Azwed]

Some opinions would be nice or at least bumbs to keep it up near the top.

 

[Texan]

I liked him and his policies when he was our state's governor and I like him even more as president. I'm glad I have had the chance to vote for him three times, and I'll vote for him again.

I confess, I would have almost assuredly voted for any Republican over Gore, but maybe that's because I am old enough to remember Johnson, Carter and Clinton....

just one man's opinion...... (and vote)

 

[MunchinMark]

He has very little respect for any other country. Pulling out of treaties and generally shafting anyone who isn't waving the Stars and Stripes are nothing at all to him.

You can quibble about domestic policy all you like, I can't really comment fairly on that.

 

[kotori]

Even a 'C' student can get to be president, right? Especially if his dad had the job. I've up his grade to 'C' since 9-11: goddamn it, I think it just might be possible to learn something on-the-job.

 

[Cheyenne]

I almost voted "other" because you forgot A+ as an option.

 

[WriterDom]

He has very little respect for any other country. Pulling out of treaties

What treaties? The environmental farce that our senate rejected by a vote of 96-0? Or the land mine treaty? We'll sign the land mine treaty when the EU replaces our 37,000 troops that are facing the North Koreans. If you really want to be nice, you can replace our 100,000 or so troops in Europe.

 

[Pokerman]

I heard today that Bin Laden may have escaped to Pakistan.

One local newspaper said this looks like this will be a war in the "Bush Tradition" - go to battle and accomplish everything but getting the person you went for in the first place....

 

[WriterDom]

I heard today that Bin Laden may have escaped to Pakistan.

One local newspaper said this looks like this will be a war in the "Bush Tradition" - go to battle and accomplish everything but getting the person you went for in the first place....

Typical liberal rubbish. The gulf war wasn't about removing a person. And if left up the the democrats, there would have been no gulf war. You don't remember Barbara Boxer crying during her speech to the House?

 

[Black_Bird]

C...

He knows how to talk a good talk and *start* a good walk - but just can't seem to keep going. I also just don't trust republicans...

 

[Cheyenne]

I also just don't trust republicans...

You don't trust any of us? Interesting. What a blanket statement THAT is.

 

[MunchinMark]

Kyoto only became a farce because of the conditions imposed by the US which then pulled out completely. Any international environmental agreement does need the US on board.

And with all those US troops on 'policing' operations abroad, I should have thought that a general ban on landmines would be in your own interest.

 

[SINthysist]

Cheyenne stole my answer.





KYOTO WAS BAD FUCKING SCIENCE BASED ON THE HOPES AND DREAMS OF WORLD SOCIALISM!

Proof:

The Sun has fucking warmed up.
Mars has fucking warmed up.
[also note aside from the basic argument that - The ocean temperature data was found to based on a faulty assumption.]

Now what polluting have we done on the sun?

What polluting have we done on Mars?

Why do you keep putting man in the center of the universe? Do you believe in a flat world?

But truth is, Texan argued this a lot better than I did long ago before his long departure and he has the credentials to back it up! Just ask ClosetDesire!

 

[MunchinMark]

The sun has been getting hotter slowly over the last 4.5 billion years. But it also has cycles of intensity and is indeed currently heating up, completely without human influence.

Do you think that all of those space probes sent to Mars vaporised themselves after they had done their job? No, they are now trash on Mars. But Mars is getting warmer because the sun is.

The Earth will get warmer for the same reason and because of it's own set of cycles and because of carbon dioxide and soot and water emissions (I did say water, water vapour is a greenhouse gas). We can't control a lot of this, but we should damn well try not to make it worse, and since a few degrees temperature is a whole lot worse we should do what we can.

The ocean temperature data is based on oxygen isotope levels in ice cores from Greenland and the Antarctic it relies on the fact that the proportion to which the isotopes of oxygen dissolve in water (the oxygen in the ice cores is from the air and was trapped in snow) depend on temperature and pressure (partial pressure for those who did chemistry). The assumption is that the physics of this hasn't changed since that ice fell as snow. So you can tell how warm the oceans were. If there is more than of one isotope, the temperature is cooler, if there is more of another, the temperature is warmer.

Of course you can just wait until those few degrees flood the coastal regions that provide most of the world's population, including most Americans, with a home and food.

I certainly don't place humanity in the centre of the universe. But it is in our own interest not to foul up our little corner.

 

[Azwed]

I almost voted "other" because you forgot A+ as an option.

A+ is not an option because I based that off a 4.0 scale, what most colleges use, and there is no A+ in that.

I just threw incomplete in there in case someone did not think he had been in office long enough to jugde.

 

[Rusher]

I'm also a Texan

And I can tell you that Bush's policies in Texas were nothing short of a disaster. He turned a budget surplus to a deficit in one budget cycle (2 years in TX). His education programs spawned a system geared totally towards passing a test as opposed to teaching students (test scores on the TX test have increased each of the last 3 years, while tests on national standardized tests have not improved overall, and have dropped substantially for non-white students). And now he has taken those same policies national. They will be the same disaster for the country they have been for Texas.

I have agreed almost completely with the way he has handled the events of September 11 and the war in Afghanistan (although his disappearing act ON September 11 was disturbing). I think he has shown tremendous leadership.

However, I did not agree with the way he handled the Chinese holding our soldiers and plane hostage.

And I was completely disgusted with the way he formulated his energy policy, allowing Enron to virtually write its own ticket (actually, Enron officials did write substantial portions of the policy). Also, his energy policy is horrible for this country.

I'll say this. Sooner or later, god willing, we will be able to bring home the troops and feel safe again. When that happens, Bush will have to concentrate on domestic issues. And when he does, he will get absolutely hammered, and you'll see that he really isn't all that sharp.

 

[SINthysist]

But Antarctica is getting colder. Also for years, water temperature of the oceans was recorded and an assumption was made that there was a direct correlation between the air temperature above it. this has been recently proven to be a fallacious assumption. Hence much of the temperature data for 3/4th's of the ocean surface for much of our record keeping is unreliable.

Plus the greater water pressure will cause plates to push up. The ratio of land to water, I believe is fairly consistent. At this point it is more likely thatNew Orleans will be taken by the ocean because it is sinking. Now that can be attributed to man's activities.

 

[BigDawg69]

C

We've amazingly gone back in time about 10 years. There's a Bush in the White House, the economy is in recession on the verge of depression and we're at war with a fourth world country that has the scientific and technological advances of cromagnon man. Meanwhile the rich will get richer the poor will get nothing and the middle class will get fucked, just like the good ol' 80's.

Just my opinion.

 

[Azwed]

Anymore people to vote anymore at all??

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by WriterDom
Typical liberal rubbish. The gulf war wasn't about removing a person. And if left up the the democrats, there would have been no gulf war. You don't remember Barbara Boxer crying during her speech to the House?

Or Algore selling his vote to the Republicans because they would give him more "face time" when he announced his support than would the Democrats when he would have announced his opposition. Speaks volumes of his integrity, doesn't it?

Originally posted by Black_Bird
. . . I also just don't trust republicans...

But you trust Democrats after eight years of the most vile, corrupt, criminal administration in American history. Now that's impressive.

Originally posted by SINthysist
The Sun has fucking warmed up.
Mars has fucking warmed up.

Proof my ass! It's them damned SUV's!

Originally posted by MunchinMark
The sun has been getting hotter slowly over the last 4.5 billion years. But it also has cycles of intensity and is indeed currently heating up, completely without human influence.

Also, for about the last 20,000 years, the earth's orbit has been devolving from elliptical toward circular which decreases the average distance from the sun, hence, more incident energy from the sun impinges on the earth, hence, it gets warmer. But the Global Warming enthusiasts never have nor ever will let science or facts get in the way of their propaganda.

Originally posted by Rusher
. . . His education programs spawned a system geared totally towards passing a test as opposed to teaching students (test scores on the TX test have increased each of the last 3 years, while tests on national standardized tests have not improved overall, and have dropped substantially for non-white students). And now he has taken those same policies national. They will be the same disaster for the country they have been for Texas. . .

I've been involved with educational pursuits enough to know that the policy is guidance establishing the long range goals or the terminal objectives. It takes competent, knowledgeable people implementing the policy to actually teach the students what they need to know. If you teach the enabling objectives (short term goals), your students are prepared for the tests because you have taught them the necessary information. Vastly simplified I admit, but people involved with the teaching profession should recognize the concepts I sketched.

So to blame the policy setter for the abysmal implementation is analogous to shooting the messenger. And that doesn't wash with me. And when the NEA is opposed to those ideas politically and ideologically, they are not likely to work toward making his long range goals a success, now are they?

I won't even address the insulting innuendo about September 11.

 

[SINthysist]

Great new fact UncleB, that one slipped by me. Of course it's the SUV's. Hell my wife went froma sportcar to a SUV and now vows to always be in the biggest tank on the road. Some power issues that she's working through I think.

 

[Azwed]

Last bumb before I tell you what my hypothesis was. Get in those last minute votes.

 

[rexfelis]

Re: C

We've amazingly gone back in time about 10 years. There's a Bush in the White House, the economy is in recession on the verge of depression and we're at war with a fourth world country that has the scientific and technological advances of cromagnon man. Meanwhile the rich will get richer the poor will get nothing and the middle class will get fucked, just like the good ol' 80's.

Just my opinion.

I agree almost 100% with you - except I had no more heart than to give him a D-.

Bush as Governor of Florida, everything goes to hell. Bush as President, everything goes to hell. Bush Jr. As President, everything goes to hell.

Coincidence, or is this a pattern forming here? Hmmmmmmmm....

I think the current Bush family in politics is the worst thing to happen to America since Pearl Harbor.

 

[Dumpington]

Pearl Harbor?

Are you blaming FDR for Pearl Harbor?

That's as stupid as blaming Bush for September 11th.

Or maybe you're just one of the "Blame America First" partisans, so common here during the 60's and 70's.

I'm sure Johnny Walker Lindh (the American Taliban kid) gives Bush an 'F' after losing so many of his buddies to American air attacks. Too bad he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison for treason, and therefore unable to participate in your poll.

 

[rexfelis]

Re: Pearl Harbor?

Are you blaming FDR for Pearl Harbor?

That's as stupid as blaming Bush for September 11th.

Or maybe you're just one of the "Blame America First" partisans, so common here during the 60's and 70's.

I'm sure Johnny Walker Lindh (the American Taliban kid) gives Bush an 'F' after losing so many of his buddies to American air attacks. Too bad he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison for treason, and therefore unable to participate in your poll.

Who said I was blaming anyone for Pearl Harbor? I don't know wehere the hell you came up with that! You're right, it would be stupid. Should I therefore jump to the conclusion that you're saying I am an idiot, and get upset?