Bush caught in lie while obstructing justice.

[Guest]

WASHINGTON, Jan. 31 — President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have said their refusal to give Congress information about the administration's contacts with energy industry executives was based on the executive branch's fundamental right to receive "unvarnished" advice from people outside the government.

But two months ago, the Bush administration authorized the release to Congress of thousands of e-mail communications by senior White House officials in the Clinton administration, including messages sent by outside advisers and senior aides to Vice President Al Gore.

With the approval of the Bush administration, the National Archives and Record Administration turned over to the House Committee on Government Reform 2,000 pages of Clinton White House e-mail messages. The committee is headed by Representative Dan Burton, the Indiana Republican who requested the records in September.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/01/business/01DISC.html

 

[Guest]

SHUT UP

LOSER

 

[notenufsx4me]

Is this Todd? i mean with the hand job sig and all...

 

[Guru]

 

[SempreAngela]

Oh what a shock!! A politician that cannot tell the truth. I am amazed.

 

[SINthysist]

But again, note that the Liberals will not attack under thier own handle, but must troll, while the conservatives, not being ashamed of thier position in life come right out and say, "The Clinton Administration was the most corrupt administration since the days of the Teapot Dome scandal, and as the press goes after the Republicans, they are forced to dish out the dirt that impicates far more Democrats than Republicans, and now they don not know how to handle the damage control."

 

[RisiaSkye]

Fuck you, "W." And the Cheney you rode in on.

Amen.

SIN, glad to see you've finally found a title that fits. How do you manage to blame the Clinton administration for the unethical and illegal activities of the Bush administration? You are truly an amazingly full of shit baiter.

And, I notice you said nothing about the original article. Does this tactic work for you in RL?

 

[JazzManJim]

SIN, glad to see you've finally found a title that fits. How do you manage to blame the Clinton administration for the unethical and illegal activities of the Bush administration? You are truly an amazingly full of shit baiter.

Risia, I'm ashamed of you. You usually do your homework better than this.

The current administration hasn't done anything illegal or unethical as of yet. It's involved in a pissing contest between the White House and the GAO, and nothing more.

The Clinton Era information was released because it was subpoenaed by a body which has the legal right to do so - whether or not the former President consented to it or not. The GAO does not have subpoena powers and the Bush administration is saying that it has no right to that information. The court will end up having to decide that, just as it did during the Clinton administration. Did you forget the months of battles between Congress and the Clinton Administration which the courts *did* have to settle involving not only Hilary's health-care meetings, but also the WH Travel Office firings and the Whitewater scandal? The difference then and now is that Congress does has subpoena powers and the court sided mostly with that body. Most experts are saying right now that the GAO will lose this pissing contest until it finds a way to have a legitimate Congressional committee subpoena the records.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Is this Todd? i mean with the hand job sig and all...

No this is not todd, I post, copy&Paste, and anything else under my own name

 

[rexfelis]

"The current administration has not done anything illegal yet..."

Republicans continually amaze me.

 

[SINthysist]

That's because Todd is a Conservative/Libertarian.

And Risia, I am not going to read anything anybody posts as a guest or unregistered. I only reply with like tripe using tried and true Democratic tactics. Where have you been for the last three years? Don;t you know my act by now?


OR AM I NOT THE DUMBEST MEMBER OF THE BOARD?

 

[SINthysist]

Democrats continually amaze me with thier love of the criminal element. Clinton is still a god even after a perjury conviction and disbarment!

I AM AMAZED! Every fawking day!

 

[rexfelis]

Democrats continually amaze me with thier love of the criminal element. Clinton is still a god even after a perjury conviction and disbarment!

I AM AMAZED! Every fawking day!

If the Democrats were to do to Bushy what the Reps did to Clinton, Bush would be impeached, his father would be implicated, his brother would be implicated, and he would be up on charges that could land him in prison.

That's a rather conservative estimate, I think, as well.

But arguing it isn't going to get us anywhere, so why bother?

 

[Spinaroonie]

Oh... right... Clinton was evil... Uh huh...

Clinton was under constant investigations lead by Republican charges since BEFORE he went into the White House. During the eight years of his administration there was not one day that he wasn't under investigation, yet he did a wonderful job. It's a terrible position to be given a job and then have a guy in the next cubicle watching everything you do to see if you screw up once, yet he did it.

I find that admirable. Bush couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I doubt most of us here could.

 

[rexfelis]

Oh... right... Clinton was evil... Uh huh...

Clinton was under constant investigations lead by Republican charges since BEFORE he went into the White House. During the eight years of his administration there was not one day that he wasn't under investigation, yet he did a wonderful job. It's a terrible position to be given a job and then have a guy in the next cubicle watching everything you do to see if you screw up once, yet he did it.

I find that admirable. Bush couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I doubt most of us here could.

Here here! That the man achieved *anything* with all that crap being dumped on him is astounding! Yet, he still achieved some pretty amazing things.

I say it's too bad he couldn't have had a third term.

 

[SINthysist]

Oh yeah, history will show him to be a real paragon of virtue. Of course, he and Algore were looking the other way and nervously whistling when a DNC operative launched the DUI attack campaign. Hey politics ain't beanbag, and Clinton had his own vicious personal attack-dog James Carville who ruined good people based on political motive and Clinton's personal CYA.

 

[SINthysist]

PS

James Carville is my personal political hero and role model! The master of tactic, Machiavelli reincarnate...



J_CARVILLE: Now shut da' fuck up there A_J, you about to make an ol' country boy blush an' stamma' heah! Don't you know that evil ol' Kan Sta', you se, we invented that word evil, and now ol' shrub owut dere usin' it like his very own, damn idiot I tell you, an he had it commin' Ken Sta' did for making yo' babies smoke cigarettes, flyin' around in a flyin' sauca' wid little green men giving free smokes,to kids, ah, excuse me, did I get some of that on you, here, lete me wipe it off. As I was sayin' Ken Sta' was really a lot like A-J, he deserved what he got. SHUT UP A_J!

 

[rexfelis]

Oh yeah, history will show him to be a real paragon of virtue. Of course, he and Algore were looking the other way and nervously whistling when a DNC operative launched the DUI attack campaign. Hey politics ain't beanbag, and Clinton had his own vicious personal attack-dog James Carville who ruined good people based on political motive and Clinton's personal CYA.

The great thing about history is that you can change it after the fact to suit your desires. Now that the Republicans are in power, they will do just that. They have already begin doing it, by brainwashing the American people with all their "rah rah rah" crap. When the government calls on Hollywood, Hollywood responds, dammit!

Too bad Clinton didn't think of using Hollywood to brainwash the nation. I guess he's just not as honest as Shrubby & Co.

History is only as accurate as the current regime wants it to be. Remember that.

 

[Tim1]

great thread

Finally a thread worth reading. I don't agree with everything in it but what the hell....

Hey didn't Clinton get a few BJ's in the oral office. I mean oval office?

Sounds like a guy I would have wanted for a third term.

 

[WriterDom]

Re: great thread

Finally a thread worth reading. I don't agree with everything in it but what the hell....

Hey didn't Clinton get a few BJ's in the oral office. I mean oval office?

.

Kenneth Lay stayed in the Clinton White House many times. I'm not sure who sucked who.

 

[krista_kisses]

hmmmmmmmm....interesting.