Burn a Koran for me, Ducky!

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When an obscure Pastor of an obscure Church with a congregation of fifty souls, decided to hold a public burning of the books of the Muslim religion as a protest against Islamic Terrorism, it should have passed with minimal publicity.

That is not the case.

The luckless left has pounced upon this event with a vengeance and turned it into an international media event.

Why?

The arms wide sympatric symbiotic relationship of the liberal progressive apologists applaud flatulence in the face of 9/11 survivors but are aghast at the scent of smoke from toasting the Islamic bible.

Go figure…(at least appreciate my writing style…heh):)

your everlovin' Amicus:rose:
 
While I know you feel I am on the left I feel strongly about this issue. Probably not for the reasons you expect though.

This Pastor is one of way too many who feel that their religion and theirs alone is right and all others are worthy only of hatred. I have followed this since it was first announced and have even done some research on this Pastor and his "Church".

His hatred is not alone for Muslims. He also hates Jews, Catholics, Mormons, Hindi's and anyone else who doesn't agree with his own brand of belief.

In other words he is what he claims to hate, an extremist.

Cat

I wonder how he would react if I showed up at his burning with a car load of Bibles?
 
What precisely is he trying to do by burning a Koran? While I understand anger over 9/11, it's not just the extremists he's insulting/ protesting. He's spitting in the face of normal everyday people, who, just like Christians, have great capacity for both Good and Evil.

While it bothers me that he feels it's ok to do this, it is his right under freedom of speech. Just as it's the Cities right to douce the fire and fine the Church into non exisistance for breaking a city ordinance.

More Power to both of them.
 
While I know you feel I am on the left I feel strongly about this issue. Probably not for the reasons you expect though.

This Pastor is one of way too many who feel that their religion and theirs alone is right and all others are worthy only of hatred. I have followed this since it was first announced and have even done some research on this Pastor and his "Church".

His hatred is not alone for Muslims. He also hates Jews, Catholics, Mormons, Hindi's and anyone else who doesn't agree with his own brand of belief.

In other words he is what he claims to hate, an extremist.

Cat

I wonder how he would react if I showed up at his burning with a car load of Bibles?[/
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Hello again, SeaCat, I don't necessarily read your offerings as being from the left, you seem to be balanced somewhere in the middle on many issues.

I do want to disagree with your conclusion about 'hate', or extremism, as being a 'bad' thing.

Passion in a belief or in knowledge is, I offer, an essential ingredient in human nature and man's attempts to discover truth. For example, when a medical doctor first attempted a cure by innoculating the ill with the material of the disease, he was called a murderer and a charlatan. Immunization today is a well known and much practiced procedure in preventing disease.

It was this man's passion, his dedication to his 'truth', that changed the world.

Each different religion by definition, must reject all others in order to sustain its' own primacy. While religion is subjective and based on faith and belief and science is objective, based on fact, reason and rationality, the passion involved is a reflection of the best in men, not the worst.

"Truth will out." And eventually it will, in all things.

Thanks, I appreciate your response...

amicus
 
What precisely is he trying to do by burning a Koran? While I understand anger over 9/11, it's not just the extremists he's insulting/ protesting. He's spitting in the face of normal everyday people, who, just like Christians, have great capacity for both Good and Evil.

While it bothers me that he feels it's ok to do this, it is his right under freedom of speech. Just as it's the Cities right to douce the fire and fine the Church into non exisistance for breaking a city ordinance.

More Power to both of them.[/
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Hello Miss Pixie...I remember when you were approaching 100 posts, now you are knocking on the door of 1,000...time sure does fly, eh?

Just as in the Mosque at Ground Zero, extremists have a right to flaunt Islam near the site of 9/11, a right protected by law. So too does this Pastor, but you err when you turn to the City, government, to punish the Church for exercising its' constitutional rights.

The function of our government, here in America, is to protect those rights, not hinder them.

Amicus
 
While I know you feel I am on the left I feel strongly about this issue. Probably not for the reasons you expect though.

This Pastor is one of way too many who feel that their religion and theirs alone is right and all others are worthy only of hatred. I have followed this since it was first announced and have even done some research on this Pastor and his "Church".

His hatred is not alone for Muslims. He also hates Jews, Catholics, Mormons, Hindi's and anyone else who doesn't agree with his own brand of belief.

In other words he is what he claims to hate, an extremist.

Cat

I wonder how he would react if I showed up at his burning with a car load of Bibles?[/
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Hello again, SeaCat, I don't necessarily read your offerings as being from the left, you seem to be balanced somewhere in the middle on many issues.

I do want to disagree with your conclusion about 'hate', or extremism, as being a 'bad' thing.

Passion in a belief or in knowledge is, I offer, an essential ingredient in human nature and man's attempts to discover truth. For example, when a medical doctor first attempted a cure by innoculating the ill with the material of the disease, he was called a murderer and a charlatan. Immunization today is a well known and much practiced procedure in preventing disease.

It was this man's passion, his dedication to his 'truth', that changed the world.

Each different religion by definition, must reject all others in order to sustain its' own primacy. While religion is subjective and based on faith and belief and science is objective, based on fact, reason and rationality, the passion involved is a reflection of the best in men, not the worst.

"Truth will out." And eventually it will, in all things.

Thanks, I appreciate your response...

amicus

Ami,

Let me see if I can explain this so you can understand where I am coming from. (And no I'm not attacking you with this, I'm merely attempting to explain my views.)

Extremism is in many cases much like hatred and yet it is slightly different. Extremism is the rejection of any belief system other than your own. (Sorry, I'm not pointing this at you. I just don't know of another way to phrase it.) This rejection doesn't neccasarily include hatred, although it can. This is not based on fear but rather on the certainty that you are correct and only your belief system is correct.

Hatred on the other hand is based on fear. Fear that you or your belief system is possibly flawed and under attack.

One who is an extremist can look upon another and ignore them because their belief system doesn't match.

One who feels hatred will lash out at those who don't agree with them in an attempt to destroy them without regard to how this will affect them personaly.

Hatred is a wasted emotion. It destroys the person who feels it.

Yes, many extremists feel hatred and rely upon it to support and succor them.

In the case of this so called Pastor, I don't know if he hates.

As for organised religion, they all breed extremists as well as those filled with hate. (Which always amuses me as I know their tenets and in none of the major religions neither hatred nor extremism is advocated except by extremists.)

AS for me, yes I'm a centrist. On some things I'm quite liberal while on others I'm very conservative, and I admit it.

Here's a song you may remember and one that I think is quite telling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luQhAc6RNqI

Cat
 
Hitler admired Islam and used Muslim troops throughout the Balkans and in the USSR.
 
Hitler admired Islam and used Muslim troops throughout the Balkans and in the USSR.

Being a bit of a history buff I would like to see your citations on this.

I do know of course about the conscripted troops but I know nothing about his use of Islamic Troops or his admiration of Islam.

Cat
 
early political johhny cash (Vietnam war era)

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I know Johnny Cash, but never heard that song before....

What your belief's are and from whence they came, is not for me to know or criticize; to each his own.

Hate is a human emotion, and part of our psyche', like it or not.

One can either understand the source of hatred or just accept it and live it out.

The arguments concerning good and evil have been around forever; I would offer that hatred of evil is a valid human emotion and acts as a moral barometer by which one can guage one's choices in life.

Whatever else Islam may be, a religion that routinely stones women to death for adultry, is worthy of hatred by any rational person.

I can understand the rage of a man whose wife cheated on him; hatred for both the woman and her cohort seems to me to be a common expression of hatred in the lives of people throughout all time. But for a Church to step in and administer 'justice' in the eyes of religion, is barbaric.

Amicus
 
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Hello Miss Pixie...I remember when you were approaching 100 posts, now you are knocking on the door of 1,000...time sure does fly, eh?

Just as in the Mosque at Ground Zero, extremists have a right to flaunt Islam near the site of 9/11, a right protected by law. So too does this Pastor, but you err when you turn to the City, government, to punish the Church for exercising its' constitutional rights.

The function of our government, here in America, is to protect those rights, not hinder them.

Amicus


He has a right to express himself, and the Muslims have a right to practice their religion, and feel secure doing so.


I had a favorite teacher in High School, He taught US Government. His Favorite saying was "My right to swing my fist, stops at your face." This is a situation where that isn't necessarily something that applies. He has a Right and so do they. But what bothers me is the unrest that this could stir up.

Muslims in Iraq probably won't see this as an isolated incident. They will see this as the American View on Islam. What would this really mean for our troops in Iraq? What standard would this set at home about what is acceptable?
 
Muslims in Iraq probably won't see this as an isolated incident. They will see this as the American View on Islam. What would this really mean for our troops in Iraq? What standard would this set at home about what is acceptable?

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An entire Islamic Nation, Iran, has declared war on the Western world, giving notice that they intend to obliterate Israel and confront every aspect of western civilization around the globe.

And you think we should be concerned what they think of America?

Islamic Terrorists have killed people in a dozen cities in Europe, Africa and Asia and are attempting to impose Sharia Law in many European Nations, Canada and elsewhere and you are advising tolerance and understanding?

America, and the world, is about to commemorate the 9th anniversary of the murder of nearly 3,000 people; we will never forget the tragedy visited on the free world by Islamic Terrorists.

There will be another terrorist attack on American soil that takes innocent lives; do you need yet another example of the core of evil that emanates from the Koran?

Amicus
 
100 Death Threats and he still prevails!

Despite the mounting pressure to call off Saturday's bonfire, Jones said at a Wednesday news conference that he also has received much encouragement, with supporters mailing copies of the Quran to his Dove Outreach Center of about 50 followers. The plan comes as an emotional debate continues over a proposed Islamic center near the ground zero site of the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York.

"As of right now, we are not convinced that backing down is the right thing," said Jones, 58, who took no questions.

Jones was flanked by an armed escort and said he has received more than 100 death threats since announcing in July that he would stage "International Burn-a-Quran Day." Muslims consider the Quran the word of God and insist it be treated with the utmost respect.


Question? You started this to make a point about the "Leftist Press", who may be seen in the pix with the Article.

Jones' Dove Outreach Center is independent of any denomination. It follows the Pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day. Pentecostals often view themselves as engaged in spiritual warfare against satanic forces.

He may be a Man of God, but he is being exploited fro the ad time they can sell along with his gibberish. I don't think the Left/Right thing has a lot to do with it, it's the money they can make by getting all those viewers to watch the Preacher torch the book, and the world wide response,

"And now to Wolf Blitzer in Cairo, Wolf Wolf?. . . Well, ah, maybe he should have gone to Tel Avive?"

I say it is a plot by the Tourist Bureau, to make Foreign travel too fucking dangerous,keeping those precious tourist's dollars at home.
 
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An entire Islamic Nation, Iran, has declared war on the Western world, giving notice that they intend to obliterate Israel and confront every aspect of western civilization around the globe.

And you think we should be concerned what they think of America?

Islamic Terrorists have killed people in a dozen cities in Europe, Africa and Asia and are attempting to impose Sharia Law in many European Nations, Canada and elsewhere and you are advising tolerance and understanding?

America, and the world, is about to commemorate the 9th anniversary of the murder of nearly 3,000 people; we will never forget the tragedy visited on the free world by Islamic Terrorists.

There will be another terrorist attack on American soil that takes innocent lives; do you need yet another example of the core of evil that emanates from the Koran?

Amicus

I remember 9/11 I was in Elementary School when it happened. I was a child but I still remember being afraid. I KNOW they've killed people. So have Christians.

I know they hate the western world there. But why must we mke things worse here? I would prefer to prevent making things worse.

The terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks were Islamic, but Timothy McVeigh was a White ex-military man who decided to blow up a building. I don't see anyone burning a "White Power" T-shirt or being afraid of every United States Veteran they see.
 
JackLuis...one of the left wing mouthpieces on MSNBCm either Ed Shultz or Chris Matthews, was chiding the Conservatives for not expressing their opinion on the Koran burning event.

The media is tying together opposition to the Mosque with this wayward Preacher in an attempt to underline what they see as the intolerance of the right, the Tea Party, Palin, when it comes to accepting the polar opposite tenets of Islam.

Both of these events are minor in comparison to this administrations preference of Islam over Israel, beginning with the Cairo speech some time back.

Perhaps you and others can ignore the world wide thread of militant Islam and the terrorist activities that are financed by the oil dollars of Muslim countries, but most rational people observe the situation and the consequences for what they really are, a threat to world peace.

Amicus
 
I remember 9/11 I was in Elementary School when it happened. I was a child but I still remember being afraid. I KNOW they've killed people. So have Christians.

I know they hate the western world there. But why must we mke things worse here? I would prefer to prevent making things worse.

The terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks were Islamic, but Timothy McVeigh was a White ex-military man who decided to blow up a building. I don't see anyone burning a "White Power" T-shirt or being afraid of every United States Veteran they see.[/
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Making a comparison between Christians and Muslims, is quite a stretch, even if you acknowledge the Irish Catholics and Protestants. Christians and Muslims have been killing, pillaging and raping each other since the Crusades.

Making a comparison between Timothy McVeigh and White Supremicists and Islamic Terrorism is also a reflection of a litany produced by the left to ignore the threat from over a billion people. McVeigh was only one man and represented virtually no one.

A coalition of about 40 democratic nations are at war with Islam in both Iraq and Afghanistan and soon, Iran; I am surprised you haven't concluded the obvious; that Islamic represents terror.

Amicus
 
When an obscure Pastor of an obscure Church with a congregation of fifty souls, decided to hold a public burning of the books of the Muslim religion as a protest against Islamic Terrorism, it should have passed with minimal publicity.

Should have? says who?
 
From my Islamic series:

These are some of Marilyn’s adventures when she was young and wild. She’s a petit, average looking blonde with a pair of tits like casaba melons – high, round, and firm on her chest. Her ass is tight and fine, but her best feature by far is that superb rack. She gets her share (and more) of male attention which is the biggest problem she has. Rather, her libido is the biggest problem she has. She’s always enjoyed sex, perhaps too much, but she’s never had too much sex, not yet. She’s a twenty-three year old college dropout. She fucked her way through the first five semesters finally flunking out in the sixth. She’s promised herself that she’ll go back some day but that won’t be anytime soon. She has an apartment and a car payment. Not to mention a cell phone, girl stuff, clothes and partying to fund. The past couple of years she’s been trying to deal with her ‘problem’ – a hot clit and an imagination to go along with it! She’d like to find a nice guy, settle down, live right, all that but there’s that sex drive to deal with: She hasn’t found a man yet who could take charge of her coochie and she wasn’t sure that she would. The urge was just too powerful. She’d heard the old joke that men think about sex every five minutes and women every six, she wished it were true. She couldn’t go two days without a hot fuck; scratch that, she hadn’t gone a day without sex for the past four years! Some days it was only four sessions with the vibrator but it was sex, nonetheless. Even if she did get a good, hot one there was no guarantee that she wouldn’t be plugging that damned thing in later. She talked to her mom about it after she left school and, although she was sympathetic, she told Marilyn:
“Just wait. It gets worse.” She laughed, but she was only half kidding. “It’s a curse that women in our family have to live with. I thought that it would ‘go away’ when I got into my forties but ask your Grandma – she’s still whoring around even though she’s past sixty. She’s just lucky that Grandpa is such a good, understanding man. I wish that your dad could have been just a little more sympathetic with me, but...” She trailed off. Her parents had been divorced nearly ten years and her mother had gone through more than a dozen boy friends and live-ins. That’s just the ones that Marilyn knew about, she was sure that there were more – her mom was an older version of herself, slim-hips and big-tits. She hugged Marilyn then and said, “You just have to find the right man who can handle you or your appetites. In the meantime, be safe, have fun, and enjoy being a woman. It’s a great gift.”
It wasn’t much consolation.
She was trying hard to settle into her new job at the country club. The concierge service desk offered very similar services as the luxury hotel that she’d just left but the Whitewater Creek Country Club was much smaller and more intimate than the Marbury. The Whitewater was just as elegant, perhaps more so, than the Marbury.
She hoped that she’d be able to restrain her horny self in this place. She didn’t need to get into the same situation that got her ‘transferred’ from the Marbury. The different atmosphere helped, but this place was full of handsome, successful, older men who were active and very sexy. This was their environment. They came here to relax and play. So did their wives and families. That was one factor that helped restrain her but not much. It only made the men seem more attractive. They were friendly enough and that was natural but she couldn’t help getting all hot and wet when certain ones stopped to chat or make arrangements for activities. So far, none of them had affected her like Roger Marbury had.
Roger Marbury was the owner of the Marbury hotel where she’d previously worked. She was working the front desk on her first day when she met him:
It had been a fairly busy Sunday afternoon with a bunch of check-ins for the week ahead. The usual stuff but when a tall, older fellow showed up and introduced himself as Roger Marbury (she’d already heard that the owner lived in a penthouse suite) she felt the world around her come to a stop. He welcomed her to the Marbury team and hoped she’d enjoy working there. His eyes and smile dazzled her. He was affable and quite nice looking. She was like a deer caught in headlights; unsure about what was happening, unable to get out of the way. He excused himself and left her standing there mesmerized. Her nipples were tingling. She smelled her hand where they’d touched.
A hand waved in front of her face. It was Colin, the senior desk clerk.
“Earth to Marilyn, Earth to Marilyn,” he teased, “Come in please.”
She blushed, embarrassed. He laughed again. “He’s mighty cute for an old guy.”
Colin was relaxed, funny and gay; they had hit it off right from the start. He was ‘training’ her, but the system was user friendly and simplified so she had focused on being attentive and friendly (his advice) to the guests as they checked in or out. He helped her with the unfamiliar stuff. Colin leaned close to her and whispered, “It’s a good thing he’s straight or I would’ve thrown myself at him ages ago!” He rolled his eyes.
“Stop it!” She laughed, “Behave!”
“If you insist,” he smirked. “But I saw that ‘moment’ between the two of you.”
“What are you talking about?” Now she was embarrassed. “A ‘moment’? Right!”
He shot a predatory glance at her tits and then sniffed the back of his hand while batting his eyes. She narrowed her eyelids and made a mock fist.
He retreated, saying “At least wait till the end of the shift to beat me up! I’d like to get into something more comfortable.”
She shook her head laughing at his antics. She was glad to be working with a man who wasn’t interested in fucking her. That was a change of pace. She loved sex but had found out during college that it tended to complicate relationships, especially in the workplace. As the afternoon wore on she thought about Mr. Marbury. She was smitten by the ‘moment’ that was for sure! She thought about his eyes and smile, his calm, self-assured demeanor, and his touch. It made her wet just thinking about him! So taken by him that she fingered herself in the employee women’s washroom during break. It was one of those orgasms that she should’ve avoided – no real satisfaction; it just primed her pump.
She had coffee with Colin after work and found out more about the hotel and Mr. Marbury. He lived in a penthouse suite on the top floor with his trophy wife who
Was thirty years younger, maybe more, than he was. He was nearly seventy, worked every day with no sign of slowing down. It was rumored that he had a mistress who’d formerly worked at the hotel. She was careful not to ask too much about Mr. Marbury, Colin was her friend but she didn’t know him all that well. She wondered if he’d gossip about her. Probably not, he wasn’t talking about mean about any of his coworkers. She felt comfortable with his easygoing and kind manner. That was also a change of pace. She was really glad to be working with him for a number of reasons, not the least of which was his orientation.
He did tell her that the bell captain had taken notice of her.
“Mark was checking you out as soon as he saw you.”
“Really? We only met briefly. I didn’t notice.”
“Probably not, he was short-handed today and left early. He’s got a girl friend but that doesn’t stop him from scoring with the girls at work from time to time.”
“Colin, really!”
“No, really, he has quite a few opportunities: there’s women working the front desk, banquets, housekeeping, maintenance, the restaurant, and the event center.”
“It sounds like you’ve got them scoped out too.” She winked.
He rubbed his palms together and smiled, “Oh yes! My future conquests!”
They both laughed.
She had a serious case of ‘the horn’ when she got home. She got into bed and turned on the vibrator. She didn’t even bother to put it away anymore, not for months. She couldn’t stop fantasizing about Mr. Marbury. She wanted him. She needed to touch him and be touched by him. The ten-inch vibrator with the nubby skin was ok but she needed a man! She needed to suck some real meat and taste some cum. Needed to feel his hands and lips on her body. His tongue on her clit, yeah! She woke up in the middle of the night with that damned thing still humming away. She turned it off and wondered how she was going to deal with this libido thing. It wasn’t going away and it seemed like it got worse every day. Why was it that men wanted to fuck your lights out for three or four weeks and then decide that the pussy belonged to them? And start neglecting it? She’d tried to explain that to her last couple of boy friends: She needed it hot and hard twice every day, three was better and she wouldn’t complain about four!
She’d only met a couple of guys that horny and they were married. By the time she’d gotten over that fact and realized that they were gonna be boning someone if not her or their wives, she’d lost their phone numbers. She hoped that one of them would call her sometime. She was willing to be a booty call if it could take care of her lil friend.
The next few days at work she got aquainted with quite a few of the men who worked at the Marbury; Mark the bell captain included. She was glad that she was cute, not beautiful. It was easier to make friends with the women and the men found it easier to approach her. All of them were nice to her and she found herself attracted to most of them for one reason or another. She just couldn’t get Roger Marbury off her mind. Seeing him every day and knowing that he was ‘off-limits’ was frustrating. He was so energetic and self-assured. She thought that he liked her, but then, he was a people person so he was going to be more outgoing. She became better friends with Colin and started regularly going out after their shift to have coffee, shop, discuss their lives, ‘all the girlie stuff’, - as Colin described it. He listened sympathetically to her venting about the hard time she was having finding a man.
He nodded and said “You think you’re the only one having trouble? Try walking on the wild side sometime! Besides, I have to complete with women for the straight and the bi-guys, it’s not fair!” He winked and flashed a lascivious grin.
“Oh you’re impossible.” She blushed.
“Actually, I’m quite easy. Not nearly as easy as you are, but easy, yes, very easy.”
She laughed and laughed at his silliness. She really liked Colin. He was funny and honest.
She asked him: “How do you..” She wasn’t sure how to ask him about his own needs. There was understanding in his smile.
“Never, ever, at work. Never. Ever. Nada. Zip. Aside from that, It’s a jungle out there; so many men, so little time!”
“I’m serious”, she protested.
“So am I. I’m seeing someone right now. He works as a steward on transatlantic flights, so he’s gone for a week, maybe more, at a time. He doesn’t fool around when he’s working overseas and I wait for him.” He gave her that mock leer: “I don’t have that hot coochie calling to me day and night.”
How the hell did he know about that? He’d probably been able to figure it out; they’d talked about her being horny enough. Besides, it was the truth; her lil friend always wanted some attention.
“So what do you do when ‘nature calls’? She cocked an eyebrow.
“I take the problem in hand, of course.” He held up both hands and wiggled his fingers. “You know it takes two hands to handle a whopper!”
She sputtered into her coffee; some of it ran out of her nose, as she reacted to his antics. The barista came over and asked if she were all right.
“I’m fine,” she was still laughing at Colin, “could we have a wet rag to wipe up this mess? I’m sorry.”
“S’Ok, I’ll get it.” The barista ducked under the counter to get a bucket and sponge.
Colin whispered: “What about her? She’s hot, and she was checking you out.”
Marilyn frowned, “Oh sure.”
 
We need to build nice big arenas so the nutjob extremist Christians and nutjob extremist Muslims can knock bloody chunks out of each other and not bother the ordinary folk that just want to live their lives in peace.
 
JackLuis...one of the left wing mouthpieces on MSNBCm either Ed Shultz or Chris Matthews, was chiding the Conservatives for not expressing their opinion on the Koran burning event.

The media is tying together opposition to the Mosque with this wayward Preacher in an attempt to underline what they see as the intolerance of the right, the Tea Party, Palin, when it comes to accepting the polar opposite tenets of Islam.

Both of these events are minor in comparison to this administrations preference of Islam over Israel, beginning with the Cairo speech some time back.

Perhaps you and others can ignore the world wide thread of militant Islam and the terrorist activities that are financed by the oil dollars of Muslim countries, but most rational people observe the situation and the consequences for what they really are, a threat to world peace.

Amicus


I fear you err in describing my opinion of the situation.

Let me be clear, I don't give a rats ass!

I think it funny this Preacher is setting himself up for getting hit by almost anybody, thinking his 'sacrifice" is for the cause. Another True Believer.

The press is so twisted these days because people believe what is 'spread' as the Truth and is mostly spin and posturing. In fact, I'll bet most people don't care one way or the other.
 
I fear you err in describing my opinion of the situation.
It's his schtick.



Oh, and the Pastor is a shameless attention whore and the 24-hour media machine is his johns. If he was young, female and italian, we'd call him Snooki.
 
Hitler admired Islam and 10s of 1000s of Muslims joined the Nazi armies in the Balkans and USSR.
 
We need to build nice big arenas so the nutjob extremist Christians and nutjob extremist Muslims can knock bloody chunks out of each other and not bother the ordinary folk that just want to live their lives in peace.[/QUOTE]

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I would suggest that most of the ordinary folk in England wanted no part of world war two...nor perhaps did the German folk or the Russian folk....but, alas, maid, it doesn't work that way. We all pay when extremists of the religious ilk hiss and snarl, which is why I point out the danger of Islam...could they be contained?

Amicus
 
The PRESS enjoys a good brawl. They know they'd be summarily hanged over in Raghead Land, as is often the case.

The world knows journalists stir shit and flee, and the world is little concerned when one of them is murdered by the mob.
 
The media is tying together opposition to the Mosque with this wayward Preacher in an attempt to underline what they see as the intolerance of the right, the Tea Party, Palin, when it comes to accepting the polar opposite tenets of Islam.

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Hello, and welcome, chittu, I don't mind my words coming back at me, but protocol usually demands a quote or an acknowledgment.

Did you have a comment besides the railroad tracks below?

amicus...who's name is never uttered in politie conversation....
 
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