Buchannan rips Bush a new one.

A fifth column of subversives is plotting to "recolonize" the United States.


Is it true that you’ve come to recolonize New Mexico?

Si, Senior.

Are you also after Arizona?

Si.

You want California, too?

Si! Si!

And Texas — how badly do you want Texas?

So - so.

Well, if you want California, Arizona, and New Mexico — you will have to take Texas, too.

SIGH!
 
Wow. Them's fightin' words. Buchanon does sound like he's preparing to run, and he's not afraid to hit hard.

Interesting.
 
Remember when Pat Buchanan used to be THE right wing crackpot? Compared to the faction controlling everything now even his old radical stances would make him the voice of reason today.
 
rgraham666 said:
He still sounds like a nut to me.

I would know. I'm insane as well.

It's interesting, though. I'm sure there are Republicans out there who would prefer to distance themselves from the Bush administration agenda, as it is not necessarily representative of their views, or of the Republican Party itself. Could be politics as usual, or it could be a sign of splintering Republican factions. McCain has his supporters, Buchanan has his, who else? What candidate, what platform will the Republicans support in the next Presidential election? Will they want to continue Bush's policies, or will they want to steer in a different direction?

I'm interested to hear what the Republicans say when their policies and views are not defined by Bush, Cheney, and Rove.
 
All interesting questions LJ. I don't think the repubs have candidate ready to put forth yet. Cheney has insisted that he won't run. McCain is a maverick within the party. He's always had a loyal group of followers, but I don't think party heirarchy will support him. He's butted heads with them too many times.

I think Buchannan is priming himself for a run as well. He's as much of a party maverick as McCain though.

There are some names floating around for the Dem nomination in 08, but you don't really hear any repub names floating around. This is purely speculation on my part, but I think the party is quietly grooming Jeb Bush for a run in 08.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
This is purely speculation on my part, but I think the party is quietly grooming Jeb Bush for a run in 08.

(gives an exquisite shudder of horror)
 
Wildcard Ky said:
All interesting questions LJ. I don't think the repubs have candidate ready to put forth yet. Cheney has insisted that he won't run. McCain is a maverick within the party. He's always had a loyal group of followers, but I don't think party heirarchy will support him. He's butted heads with them too many times.

I think Buchannan is priming himself for a run as well. He's as much of a party maverick as McCain though.

There are some names floating around for the Dem nomination in 08, but you don't really hear any repub names floating around. This is purely speculation on my part, but I think the party is quietly grooming Jeb Bush for a run in 08.
Do you think if John Warner was younger he would be a possible choice? McCain would attract some dem. votes from those fed up with their party. but he is too fair minded to get a lot of his party.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
All interesting questions LJ. I don't think the repubs have candidate ready to put forth yet. Cheney has insisted that he won't run. McCain is a maverick within the party. He's always had a loyal group of followers, but I don't think party heirarchy will support him. He's butted heads with them too many times.

I think Buchannan is priming himself for a run as well. He's as much of a party maverick as McCain though.

There are some names floating around for the Dem nomination in 08, but you don't really hear any repub names floating around. This is purely speculation on my part, but I think the party is quietly grooming Jeb Bush for a run in 08.


Bill First will throw his hat inthe ring I'm relatively sure. Delay speaks for the most virulent sectors of the party, but I suspect he is just the kind of guy who will alienate party moderates to much.

Jeb is an option, but he has insisted he isn't running.

McCain would be the best choice. But as you said, he's butted heads with the top folks so much it's hard to see them backing him.

I think Cheny is honest in not running.
 
McCain would be the best choice. But as you said, he's butted heads with the top folks so much it's hard to see them backing him.
McCain would only be the best choice for those of us who hate the establishment.

Bill Fist is a definate contender but Jeb Bush is the probable candidate IMHO. After all, is this a fledgling monarchy or isn't it?

Bush III for President!

Oh, shit I think I'm gonna shoot myself.
 
thebullet said:
McCain would only be the best choice for those of us who hate the establishment.

Bill Fist is a definate contender but Jeb Bush is the probable candidate IMHO. After all, is this a fledgling monarchy or isn't it?

Bush III for President!

Oh, shit I think I'm gonna shoot myself.

Well, there is another party you could support without resorting to self-inflicted cranial trauma. ;)

On the subject of illegal immigration, I don't know a lot of meta-details. But I did primary analysis on a homeless census conducted in an extreme Southern California county, and I know that there are horrific realities that underlie the economics of major agricultural crops in the region. There are migrant illegals living in camps hidden way off roadways on private land, where even the landowners don't want to know about them. Except that they show up to do the harvesting, and they accomplish the task at a minimum cost. No one wants to acknowledge them, politically. If the HUD agency acknowledges them in their homeless census, it raises the issue of public dollars being spent on illegal immigrants; the growers don't want to bring them up, of course, because the economics of their business depend on sub-wage labor. And, as a major economic force in the region, the growers aren't closely monitored or held to existing laws. I really don't think any of the local police forces relish the idea of raiding migrant camps on private land, full of tough agricultural workers with nothing to lose, either.
 
thebullet said:
After all, is this a fledgling monarchy or isn't it?

I'm going to ask that you kindly refrain from insulting monarchy in such a manner.
 
I've heard from several sources that Jeb is probably going to be the prime candidate for election in 08. The only person we have running for us poor dems that might do anything is Hilary....and with everything she's been through, I don't know that her stance on family values is steady enough to not have the Reps tear her down on that alone.

I dunno. I could be wrong, I've been wrong before, and I often am for guessing at politics. I have neither the ken to understand them nor the money to influence them, so I simply get railroaded by them with little honest say about them.
 
At this point in time it looks like if Rudy Giuliani runs he would get the republican nomination and most likely win the White House. He is higher in the polls than any other republican even McCain. No matter what part of the country he's polled, people like him.

Of course it is still way too early to see how 08 will turn out.
 
Evan Bayh, senator and former governor for my home state of Indiana, is considering a run in 08. If he does I will absolutely vote for him. He's done a great job with our state.
 
AngeloMichael said:
At this point in time it looks like if Rudy Giuliani runs he would get the republican nomination and most likely win the White House. He is higher in the polls than any other republican even McCain. No matter what part of the country he's polled, people like him.

Of course it is still way too early to see how 08 will turn out.

I have a funny feeling that Guiliani will never get the nod. I think there's too many skeletons in the closet for him to get party support. Hell, the repubs dumped Jack Ryan in the Illinois senate race over him taking his wife to a sex club in Europe.
 
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