British National Health In The Shitter

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[phrodeau]

Another vetteman thread title that displays his fascination with poopoo.

 

[Que]

8,000 quality (we are told) Cuban doctors can be had for a mere $160,000 per month.

 

[oggbashan]

There is a General Election in May 2015.

There will be many more such stories about the NHS in the next few months.

Part of the problem was created by the Labour Government, but they won't admit that. They allowed General Practitioner Doctors to stop providing evening, night and weekend cover themselves, so the only option if you are ill or injured after working hours or from Friday evening to Monday morning is to go the nearest hospital emergency department.

The NHS phone line service 111 was supposed to be staffed by trained professionals. It isn't. The default response if the 111 person doesn't know or isn't sure is 'Go to your emergency department' - adding to the problem.

The expectations of the NHS are greater than the resources - always were and always will be. My generation and my parents generation who were around before the NHS would avoid going to a doctor for anything minor - because it cost money. Current generations, brought up with an NHS that is free at the point of delivery, expect treatment for minor cuts and bruises, colds, sniffles... things my generation would treat at home, visiting a chemist perhaps.

But the discussions about the NHS are all about the forthcoming election.

"We'll give more!"

"How will you pay for it? We'll give less, but we can afford it!"

 

[Que]

In similar fashion, we were promised that the ACA would reduce emergency room visit by giving more people health insurance cards. The theory being if they had health insurance the would go see a doctor earlier and not wait for it to be an emergency.

Guess what happened? More cards that are good in emergency rooms, more emergency room visits.

Making something easier to obtain does not reduce the frequency that people will use the service.

Nothing in the ACA makes the system as a whole more affordable. Concurrent with that debacle though there are encouraging signs fo changes to the health care delivery system (that is separate and apart from who pays for it which is al the ACA is about) We are getting more options for treatments for the minor stuff that the American nanny state previously forbid at the urging of the Doctors cartel/guild/cabal or whatever you want to call them.

New is that pharmacists in some areas are going to maybe be able to write scripts for some things. Nurse practitioners and physicians assistants already can. Doc-in-a-box clinics for care needed today but not an emergency is becoming prevalent.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Years ago I worked at a hospital where our paid leave was apportioned between sick days and vacation days. Most of the staff used sick days for vacation time and had no sick days when they were sick. The hospital then tried begging alms from the folks with large sick day funds...like me. MELBA IS DYING AND HAS NO SICK TIME, PLEASE DONATE 40 HOURS TO HER SO SHE CAN GET PAID.

I refused. Fuck Melba the malingerer.

So the hospital got wise. They made all paid leave, paid leave for any purpose, and the sick time abuse stopped.

 

[Sean]

Wow, electives are being postponed to cope with the winter demand. Shock horror.

 

[oggbashan]

Wow, electives are being postponed to cope with the winter demand. Shock horror.

It happens every year, but 2015 is an election year.

 

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[miles]

Unless we repeal ACA that's the type of healthcare we can expect in the future.

 

[Sean]

Unless we repeal ACA that's the type of healthcare we can expect in the future.

You mean half the price, 100% of the population covered, longer life expectancy, zero medical bankruptcies and better overall health outcomes?

 

[Sean]

It happens every year, but 2015 is an election year.

I know, but Vettebigot obviously doesn't.

 

[FGB]

You mean half the price, 100% of the population covered, longer life expectancy, zero medical bankruptcies and better overall health outcomes?

Dude.

That is NOT what is happening here!

Not even close.

 

[Sean]

Dude.

That is NOT what is happening here!

Not even close.

You really aren't very bright, are you?

 

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[Sean]

Give the BS a rest.

Those are all demonstrable facts. I know facts disturb you, but they still remain facts.

 

[phrodeau]

Oh, look and a little turd from the Shire shows up right on cue.

Give the BS a rest.

Give the poopoo references a rest.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Seanh loves to sing the virtues of the British National Health System, always telling us how wonderfully efficient it is and all:

3,000 ops cancelled as demand rises
More than 3,000 operations have been cancelled by the NHS in the first two weeks of this month as an "unprecedented demand" takes its toll.

More than 3,000 operations have been cancelled by the NHS in the first two weeks of this month as an "unprecedented demand" takes its toll.

Figures show 3,113 elective operations were cancelled in that period, up by almost half since 2012.

In terms of operations classed as urgent 161 were cancelled in the two-week period, with some having been cancelled twice or more.

The figures, highlighted by Labour, show the repercussions of A&E departments under severe stress and a lack of beds for patients in need, a consultant and member of the Royal College of Surgeons said.

Shafi Ahmed said: "There is currently unprecedented demand on the NHS resulting in more cancellations of planned surgical operations.

"As a practising surgeon, looking after cancer patients, it is very difficult to have to tell a patient who has prepared themselves for a major procedure that their operation has been cancelled for non-clinical reasons.

"To reduce pressures on hospitals and to keep a flow of patients coming in and leaving hospital, we need to manage the number of available beds more efficiently. To achieve this, we need to reduce unnecessary admissions and visits to A&E and improve community care.

Mr Ahmed said improvements are also required regarding discharge arrangements, to avoid patients staying in hospital longer than necessary, and called for ring-fencing of beds for high dependency care to be considered.

Labour's shadow health secretary Andy Burnham said: "This is yet another sign that, under David Cameron, the NHS is simply not working.

"Standards of patient care are slipping by the week and now more and more people get ready for an operation only to face a last minute postponement.

"The chaos in A&E is spreading through the NHS. Hospitals are in danger of becoming overwhelmed as the Government takes social care away from older people and makes it harder to see a GP. These cancellations help to explain why operation waiting lists are at a six-year high."

He pledged Labour would invest an extra £2.5 billion in the NHS each year, resulting in 20,000 more nurses and 8,000 GPs.

The Department of Health told the Sunday Times the figures show "the proportion of cancelled operations remains remarkably stable over many years", adding that more operations are being carried out amid an ageing population.

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/3000-ops-cancelled-as-demand-rises-11363951944358

Wow, electives are being postponed to cope with the winter demand. Shock horror.

It happens every year, but 2015 is an election year.

Another Patented VetteFail.