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When does it matter? Shit, I saw some guy throw cans of tuna in his jacket today. Fuck if I'm going to rat the poor bastard out. He looked like his last week was about a month ago.
 
It's a two edged sword. I too feel compassion for the man that needs the tuna but if enough people do it the man who owns the store loses his livelyhood and then people lose thier jobs. I do feel there is enough help out there that people don't need to steal. The trouble is that sometimes no one has helped the person find those places. The man who steals the tuna may have enough for a meal or two but then he is back in the bad situation unless he gets linked to continued care and support.
 
That's how I feel about it. It's sad that anyone can go hungry in the world today. I'd probably have paid for the tuna to the store owner. I've done that before for ppl. I wont give the person cash as it usually ends up going towards alcohol, but I'd pay for if I could.
 
we live in a sick society where in america alone enough food is thrown away daily to feed millions.
been in the military? if you have, you'd know what i mean.
hell, they even put locks on dumpsters now.
 
we live in a sick society where in america alone enough food is thrown away daily to feed millions.
been in the military? if you have, you'd know what i mean.
hell, they even put locks on dumpsters now.

I haven't been in then military. Are you talking about waste there or the hunger you have seen?
 
we live in a sick society where in america alone enough food is thrown away daily to feed millions.
been in the military? if you have, you'd know what i mean.
hell, they even put locks on dumpsters now.

they have to. liability. no, seriously.

well, that's the excuse i was always given anyway.
 
When does it matter? Shit, I saw some guy throw cans of tuna in his jacket today. Fuck if I'm going to rat the poor bastard out. He looked like his last week was about a month ago.

You could have offered to pay for them. So many possible outcomes...
 
I have a weird morality about that. If it was a mom & pop's, Ida said something. If it was a corporation like Wal-Mart, I'd say fuck it, let 'um eat it.
 
I haven't been in then military. Are you talking about waste there or the hunger you have seen?


waste. no one in the military goes hungry.
most kitchens on bases now are centralized. one kitchen to feed a few hundred. now imagine a base with a few thousand troops. so you have several kitchens on one base. one kitchen can fill one dumpster half way with discarded food for just one meal.
the only time i saw this used fairly wisely was at one base in germany. a local pig farmer would come by at least once a day to collect the food as long as it was still in a garbage can.


i know the liability laws KAH. i remember when dumpsters at any establishment , whether a "mart" , restaurant, and grocery stores where not locked. not long ago i was sitting in a parking lot not far from the rear of a grocery store waiting for a friend to come out and saw an obviously homeless man standing not far from the dumpster. a kid came out to discard a bunch of stuff that had become outdated or "ruined". he handed the homeless guy some items before he opened the dumpster to drop the rest in.
 
waste. no one in the military goes hungry.
most kitchens on bases now are centralized. one kitchen to feed a few hundred. now imagine a base with a few thousand troops. so you have several kitchens on one base. one kitchen can fill one dumpster half way with discarded food for just one meal.
the only time i saw this used fairly wisely was at one base in germany. a local pig farmer would come by at least once a day to collect the food as long as it was still in a garbage can.


i know the liability laws KAH. i remember when dumpsters at any establishment , whether a "mart" , restaurant, and grocery stores where not locked. not long ago i was sitting in a parking lot not far from the rear of a grocery store waiting for a friend to come out and saw an obviously homeless man standing not far from the dumpster. a kid came out to discard a bunch of stuff that had become outdated or "ruined". he handed the homeless guy some items before he opened the dumpster to drop the rest in.

Huh- they aren't locked around here- I used to go dumpster diving all the time- not for food though. I would go out and get boxes for 3D foundation and other 'found objects' for art supplies. There's a pretty big fregan community in Lex...
 
Huh- they aren't locked around here- I used to go dumpster diving all the time- not for food though. I would go out and get boxes for 3D foundation and other 'found objects' for art supplies. There's a pretty big fregan community in Lex...

fregan?
 
haha, dude that doesn't exactly shine a light on it

nevermind, i'll google that shit

I'm sorry, I thought you were making fun of me for poor spelling. A Freegan is someone who has an opposition to the wastefullness of modern society and tries to live completely off stuff that is part of that waste. They eat the things that are thrown away, and use the things that are considered 'waste'. They don't give in to the 'I need a constant upgrade' culture. They're big on tinyhouses, which I'm big on. Tinyhouses are something you ought to Google too. They're fucking awesome.
 
I'm sorry, I thought you were making fun of me for poor spelling. A Freegan is someone who has an opposition to the wastefullness of modern society and tries to live completely off stuff that is part of that waste. They eat the things that are thrown away, and use the things that are considered 'waste'. They don't give in to the 'I need a constant upgrade' culture. They're big on tinyhouses, which I'm big on. Tinyhouses are something you ought to Google too. They're fucking awesome.

interesting
i've studied some tinyhouses, and see articles on them sometimes. seems like they're mostly in europe, but i haven't really looked into it much

i'd say i'm about 15% freegan, since i eschew the new and "next best thing" ideology. never in my muthafuckin life would you catch me standing in line for a goddam iphone. i don't even like when people refer to their products by brand. when someone says to me "oh just send it to my ipad" i seriously have to resist the urge to smack their face off their fucking head
 
When does it matter? Shit, I saw some guy throw cans of tuna in his jacket today. Fuck if I'm going to rat the poor bastard out. He looked like his last week was about a month ago.
That guy probably has an electric can opener with a built-in ice crusher.
 
You could have offered to pay for them. So many possible outcomes...

We did that at the store the other day but it was a three way split. This elderly lady looked like she had to be 90 and came up short at the grocery register. We still don't know if she had anything in her account but those of us in line were waiting as they card was declined again and she was digging for coins in her purse. Thing was that none of us had that much money to share either so we each chipped in $20. and the lady kept the change.

It sort of felt like not helping her would have been a crime.
 
We did that at the store the other day but it was a three way split. This elderly lady looked like she had to be 90 and came up short at the grocery register. We still don't know if she had anything in her account but those of us in line were waiting as they card was declined again and she was digging for coins in her purse. Thing was that none of us had that much money to share either so we each chipped in $20. and the lady kept the change.

It sort of felt like not helping her would have been a crime.

A friend of mine from school is an orthodontist. I was with his wife in a Osco's and she pulls a frosty pop from the cooler and just starts eating it, and I'm like WTF? It takes all kinds.
 
I'm not out to break any laws. But if I'm broke and I need food, I am going to get it to keep from starving. If I get locked up, at least I'll get fed in jail.
 
interesting
i've studied some tinyhouses, and see articles on them sometimes. seems like they're mostly in europe, but i haven't really looked into it much

i'd say i'm about 15% freegan, since i eschew the new and "next best thing" ideology. never in my muthafuckin life would you catch me standing in line for a goddam iphone. i don't even like when people refer to their products by brand. when someone says to me "oh just send it to my ipad" i seriously have to resist the urge to smack their face off their fucking head

and they look at you like you are from mars if you don't have a cell phone of any sort. i refuse to own one of those fucking things. everyone i know who owns one is constantly looking at the damn thing. and they are flabergasted when they realize there is no cell service where i am at. one came to visit, wanted to contact someone to let them know they got here ok, realized that my comp was slow as hell and didn't want to wait for a page to download and drove 5 miles away to where they could get cell service. like, WTF?
my internet service is dial up (gasp yes that still exists). i'm not interested in looking at or listening to every bit of shit on the net. most of it requires a fast hook up to use anyway. my phone service is local unlimited calls. i don't call people long distance.
i refuse to get involved in a constantly hooked up instant information all the time. don't see the sense in it. i can use the money for all that shit for something else more important, like food.
 
My Dad owed a grocery store.
If you stold food and you looked like you needed it he won't stop them.
If you stold coffee (a big ticket item that theives would resell) cigretts or other items like that.
You're going to jail.
 
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