BREAKING: Ted Cruz Introduces Constitutional Amendment

[JackLuis]

BREAKING: Ted Cruz Introduces Constitutional Amendment

D.C. is broken,” said Sen. Cruz. “The American people resoundingly agreed on Election Day, and President-elect Donald Trump has committed to putting government back to work for the American people. It is well past time to put an end to the cronyism and deceit that has transformed Washington into a graveyard of good intentions.”

Cruz continued: “The time is now for Congress, with the overwhelming support of the American people, to submit this constitutional amendment to the states for speedy ratification. With control of a decisive majority of the states, the House of Representatives, and the Senate, we have a responsibility to answer the voters’ call-to-action. We must deliver.”

“Term limits are the first step towards reforming Capitol Hill,” said Rep. DeSantis. “Eliminating the political elite and infusing Washington with new blood will restore the citizen legislature that our Founding Fathers envisioned. The American people have called for increased accountability and we must deliver. Senator Cruz has been instrumental in efforts to hold Congress accountable, and I look forward to working with him to implement term limits.”

Can we make this retroactive and dump the Turtle?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Why term limits? Presidential term limits were applied after the reign of one of the most popular presidents. If the person has the confidence of the people why limit the voice of the people?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

This makes forget entirely about dumping the ethics panel the other day.




QUOTE=JackLuis;82929420]BREAKING: Ted Cruz Introduces Constitutional Amendment



Can we make this retroactive and dump the Turtle?[/QUOTE]

 

[phrodeau]

Why term limits? Presidential term limits were applied after the reign of one of the most popular presidents. If the person has the confidence of the people why limit the voice of the people?

The other party insists on having their turn, no matter how unpopular they are nor how badly they screwed up during their last turn. But everyone is a snowflake, right?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Why term limits? Presidential term limits were applied after the reign of one of the most popular presidents. If the person has the confidence of the people why limit the voice of the people?

Because "the people" are fucking morons and I don't want them having a say so in how I live my life, I want them to mind their own fuckin' bidnizz.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Because "the people" are fucking morons and I don't want them having a say so in how I live my life, I want them to mind their own fuckin' bidnizz.

Give that nonsense a rest. You can't live outside of society, society cannot function without government, and democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others.

 

[THECPKID]

It will never pass. Can you think of all the money that would be spent on "open seats"?

 

[KingOrfeo]

It will never pass. Can you think of all the money that would be spent on "open seats"?

Even "safe seats" can cost a fortune to keep.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Give that nonsense a rest.

What is nonsense about it?

You can't live outside of society,

I already do.

society cannot function without government

LMFAO!!!

What complete and utter bullshit.

and democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others.

I prefer a constitutionally castrated republic, it's proven to be considerably superior to both mob rule democracy and socialism.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I already do.

No, you don't. If you did, you'd be a naked speechless idiot like Victor of Aveyron.

Deer can thrive as solitary animals. Wolves can't thrive without a pack. Humans are much more like wolves than deer in that regard.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, you don't. If you did, you'd be a naked speechless idiot like Victor of Aveyron.

Deer can thrive as solitary animals. Wolves can't thrive without a pack. Humans are much more like wolves than deer in that regard.

A pack isn't a society and a pack of wolves doesn't need a fuckin' government to thrive.

A flock of sheep however....

 

[KingOrfeo]

LMFAO!!!

What complete and utter bullshit.

Society cannot function without government. Take it away and you don't get Libertopia, you don't get Galt's Gulch, you get Somalia.

 

[KingOrfeo]

A pack isn't a society . . .

It is. Our early human and pre-human ancestors lived in packs or bands that were miniature societies. No hominid has ever been the sort of creature that can thrive alone.

. . . and a pack of wolves doesn't need a fuckin' government to thrive.

Yes, it does, if only in the form of an alpha to lead the hunt. Dogs will do what you tell them, cats won't. That's because dogs are descended from wolves, who hunt prey larger than themselves, and so need a pack, and a pack needs a leader, and dogs have learned to see their humans as their alphas. Cats hunt prey smaller than themselves and never needed to develop that follow-the-leader instinct. Humans, like wolves, are social animals.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Society cannot function without government.

Funny how the human race flourished for so long without it.

How ever did we make it without the FDA telling us when and how to blow our noses KO??

Take it away and you don't get Libertopia, you don't get Galt's Gulch

I didn't say you do.

you get Somalia.

Only in that environment with that culture, different cultures with different environments spawn very different results.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Funny how the human race flourished for so long without it.

It never did. The most primitive society has some primitive form of government or leadership. More importantly, it has laws/rules/norms enforced by public opinion if nothing else. Yes, that means other people minding your business and telling you what to do. Pre-Columbian Indians were no more free of all that than any citizen of a modern state.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It is. Our early human and pre-human ancestors lived in packs or bands that were miniature societies.

They are called tribes, and they aren't societies, they are tribes. It has it's own name both in social and governmental context 'tribalism' and it's quite prevalent around the globe.

Do they share some basic fundamental similarities? Sure, but they aren't the same thing and they sure as fuck aren't the same thing as the trans continental and even global style super governments you're pushing.

So let's just stop trying to pretend Auntie Anne whipping my ass and telling me to get to work is the same thing as some clawyer 3,000 miles away telling me I can't do what I do for a living, forcing me into his 15/hr factory job and then taxing me into total dependency upon welfare he/she is in control of for the privilege.

No hominid has ever been the sort of creature that can thrive alone.

I never made that claim.

Yes, it does, if only in the form of an alpha to lead the hunt. Dogs will do what you tell them, cats won't. That's because dogs are descended from wolves, who hunt prey larger than themselves, and so need a pack, and a pack needs a leader, and dogs have learned to see their humans as their alphas. Cats hunt prey smaller than themselves and never needed to develop that follow-the-leader instinct. Humans, like wolves, are social animals.

But do they listen to a fox in Europe on a special council when they demand half of all the wolfs kills because they voted that's what is fair??

I don't think so.....

It's not the same, quit with the bull fuckin' shit.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It never did. The most primitive society has some primitive form of government or leadership.

Government =/= leadership. Cut the fucking bullshit lies KO.

More importantly, it has laws/rules/norms enforced by public opinion if nothing else.

Rules yes, some major civilizations had some laws but they were generally pretty vague/general. Nothing like the thought/life micromanaging control freak shit you push.

Once again, not even close to the same thing.

Yes, that means other people minding your business and telling you what to do.

Yea. And it was almost entirely local. Still is in a lot if not most places in the world.

Once again, not the uber government control freak shit you push.

Pre-Columbian Indians were no more free of all that than any citizen of a modern state.

That may be true, there have been some tyrannical fucks in history...that doesn't mean we should emulate them.

 

[badbabysitter]

Rules yes, some major civilizations had some laws but they were generally pretty vague/general. Nothing like the thought/life micromanaging control freak shit you push.

Name one


Once again, not even close to the same thing.

Yea. And it was almost entirely local. Still is in a lot if not most places in the world.

Once again, not the uber government control freak shit you push.

Au contraire, local laws can be, and have been in many many cases strictly harsher then their national standards

That may be true, there have been some tyrannical fucks in history...that doesn't mean we should emulate them.

Says the guy cheerleading for Donald Putin

 

[Boxlicker101]

Why term limits? Presidential term limits were applied after the reign of one of the most popular presidents. If the person has the confidence of the people why limit the voice of the people?

Term limits were introduced almost two years after the death of FDR and became part of the Constitution during the full term of Truman, who was not very popular at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

 

[BotanyBoy]

Name one


Once again, not even close to the same thing.

What civilization that had pretty laxydoodle laws compared to the MILLIONS of pages of fine print bullshit we live under in the USA today?

Name one that didn't....legal/government structure today is monstrous compared to just 100 years ago both legally and physically. There is no comparison, the US Government, right now, is the biggest baddest government machine that's ever existed in all of recorded human history nothing else has ever come close.

Au contraire, local laws can be, and have been in many many cases strictly harsher then their national standards

I never said they couldn't be.

But nobody cares, local bullshit is a local problem and totally different than what I'm talking about. Which is some asshole from Alabama in Washington D.C. telling us the locals here in BFE dinkytoon California how were going to do shit from now on.

I'm sure they are sick and tired of it going their direction to because neither side can live and let live. They just have to fuck with people.

Says the guy cheerleading for Donald Putin

I'm not Cheerleading for Trump, I'm just laughing at the mass triggering he caused LOL there is a difference.

 

[phrodeau]

I think Botany Boy must have flunked out of Social Studies in junior high.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I think Botany Boy must have flunked out of Social Studies in junior high.

I did quite well actually.

 

[badbabysitter]

What civilization that had pretty laxydoodle laws compared to the MILLIONS of pages of fine print bullshit we live under in the USA today?

Name one that didn't....legal/government structure today is monstrous compared to just 100 years ago both legally and physically. There is no comparison, the US Government, right now, is the biggest baddest government machine that's ever existed in all of recorded human history nothing else has ever come close.

Deflection...you were the one that said..and I quote

Rules yes, some major civilizations had some laws but they were generally pretty vague/general. Nothing like the thought/life micromanaging control freak shit you push.
.

I then asked you to name one... you went into a ramble to avoid answering

I never said they couldn't be.

But nobody cares, local bullshit is a local problem and totally different than what I'm talking about.


Which is some asshole from Alabama in Washington D.C. telling us the locals here in BFE dinkytoon California how were going to do shit from now on.



I'm sure they are sick and tired of it going their direction to because neither side can live and let live. They just have to fuck with people.

But it has been directly tied to the previous statement..where historically smaller localer governments have enforced and if not created laws that are in conflict with national ones...smaller isnt always better... that's not say bigger is better, it can be nightmarish...but to think we'd live free under limited government is to ignore reality, is that when people can do whatever they want with no consequences they will exploit and punish with impunity

I'm not Cheerleading for Trump, I'm just laughing at the mass triggering he caused LOL there is a difference.

Yet.. you never ever criticize him..funny that..

 

[Hard_Rom]

Botany Boy is a sociopath. An anomaly. Normal humans are social animals and will actively seek out others of their kind. We cooperate to increase our chances of survival. A government is required to extend such things as property rights beyond death. Without governments a thug could walk into your house after you died and evict your heirs and children. Governments and laws stop that sort of activity.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Term limits are a nihilistic attack on politicians.

If I need a doctor or a lawyer I want one with experience. I want similar experience in the politicians I vote for.

We we need are limits on campaign contributions and gifts from lobbyists.

Ted Cruz is a typical Republican demagogue who with better skill than most Republicans, although with less of it than Donald Trump, exploits the social resentments of poorly educated, low income whites, in order to pursue policies that hurt them economically.

In his speech before the students of Liberty University Cruz said, "Imagine four or five job offers before graduation."

I am sure the students at Liberty University would like to imagine that. Unfortunately, for them it can only be a fantasy. It would remain a fantasy if Ted Cruz was elected president. Liberty University has a low academic rating. Employers are not interested in hiring graduates of Liberty University, especially if they have degrees in majors like Bible Studies.